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Please vote for the wrestler/act that you believe have generated the best work over the past 12 months

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:43 am

The 2nd Round of the 2016 V2 WWC concludes today with the final two Groups, let's see who will advance to Quarter Final D

The second Group of the 2nd Round to be comprised entirely of WWE main roster performers, let's see who will take the final place in the Quarterfinals of the 2016 V2 WWC

Please vote for the wrestler you believe has generated the best work in the past 12 months

Remember from the 2nd round onwards each person is allowed only 1 vote per group!

Please leave a comment as to who you have voted for and why to help facilitate discussion

The group will be closed at 23.00 tonight and no votes will be counted past that point

The first placed wrestler/act will progress to the Quarter Finals

Happy WWC-ing thumbsup

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:42 am

Got to be the weakest group

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Post by Electric Demon Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:57 am

I had to go with Slater and Rhyno because they had the longest title reign of any of these losers

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Post by Samo Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:17 pm

A weak group but a competitive one because theres not that muh seperating them.

Probably going to vote for Balor though. I'll mull it over before deciding.

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Post by goldustismyhero Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:16 pm

Would have voted balor had it not been for the unfortunate injury

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Post by Samo Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Ziggler deserves a shout because his work post-draft has been very good. Harsh on him.

I think that vote for Cena is just to get me to bite. Aint happening.

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Post by Hero Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:58 pm

#votecena

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Post by President Trump Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:30 pm

#MakeCenaGreatAgain

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:39 pm

Balor for me, probably the most consistently 4* performer in the world

The bare minimum Jericho has to do to get so much praise never ceases to amaze me

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Post by Crimey Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:47 pm

Finn Balor is SO boring though! Chris Jericho has been very entertaining for a while now. 

The most interesting thing Balor does is a rip off of The Boogeyman's entrance.

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Post by Beer Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:54 pm

Crimey wrote:Finn Balor is SO boring though! Chris Jericho has been very entertaining for a while now. 

The most interesting thing Balor does is a rip off of The Boogeyman's entrance.

You have never watched anything outside of Raw and Smackdown, have you?

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Post by Crimey Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:02 pm

Beer wrote:
Crimey wrote:Finn Balor is SO boring though! Chris Jericho has been very entertaining for a while now. 

The most interesting thing Balor does is a rip off of The Boogeyman's entrance.

You have never watched anything outside of Raw and Smackdown, have you?

He was on a couple Raws and one PPV. 

I'm judging this on his year in NXT when he was crazy boring.

I don't know what he was like as Prince Devitt, but he's been extremely dull since he came to WWE.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:19 pm

He's not been at his best in WWE I'll admit, he's much more charismatic as a heel and the demon thing is stupid, why can't it just be body paint, it's WWE's inability to just let something exist without the need to dial it up to 11 and brand the Poopie out of it

I think his match consistency gets taken for granted though , his work is always very good to the point where I think people get numb to it, Jericho hasn't had a single match this year nearly as good as Balors average output

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:42 pm

I find him rather samey and a tad dull. Not sure I care for him as a face wrestler. I like him and I'm not sure why, but I have been unimpressed.

Entrance has been overused already, music is fantastic though

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Post by Crimey Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:35 pm

Personally I'd rather a much more interesting character like Jericho than consistent wrestling. I'd much rather a program which had terrible matches but great storylines and good characters than the other way around. Unfortunately I think WWE is focusing on the latter at the moment, probably because it's less work - they can just sign up all the most talented guys around and feel comfortable knowing they're going to be putting on great matches every week, saves them having to construct interesting stories.

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Post by Electric Demon Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:12 pm

All I've seen Finn Balor do so far is dropkick
And I'm sure I've seen him do that about a hundred times

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Post by Electric Demon Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:37 pm

Crimey wrote:Personally I'd rather a much more interesting character like Jericho than consistent wrestling. I'd much rather a program which had terrible matches but great storylines and good characters than the other way around. Unfortunately I think WWE is focusing on the latter at the moment, probably because it's less work - they can just sign up all the most talented guys around and feel comfortable knowing they're going to be putting on great matches every week, saves them having to construct interesting stories.

Top comment. Couldn't agree more

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Post by Marky Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:00 pm

I do like Finn Balor but went for Jericho as he's been the most watchable part of Monday Night Raw for about 3-4 months now, plus the Y2AJ stuff earlier in the year was pretty entertaining as well.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:22 pm

Electric Demon wrote:
Crimey wrote:Personally I'd rather a much more interesting character like Jericho than consistent wrestling. I'd much rather a program which had terrible matches but great storylines and good characters than the other way around. Unfortunately I think WWE is focusing on the latter at the moment, probably because it's less work - they can just sign up all the most talented guys around and feel comfortable knowing they're going to be putting on great matches every week, saves them having to construct interesting stories.

Top comment. Couldn't agree more

Don't think it's match quality if you think how limited movesets still are. I think the malaise has been going on longer than these good signings.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:42 am

Voting is now closed

Drink it in man! Chris Jericho books the final spot in the Quarter Finals with 8 votes as he will meet AJ Styles in Group D

The 2016 V2 WWC resumes on Monday with the Quarter Finals Groups A & B

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Post by Electric Demon Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:51 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Balor for me, probably the most consistently 4* performer in the world

The bare minimum Jericho has to do to get so much praise never ceases to amaze me

I think it's because he understands the bare minimum you do have to do - which is to entertain.

No point doing flips and false finishes if you're as dull as dishwater - because next week we've already seen that flip now, you need something else.

The difference is, I reckon if Chris Jericho has been handed that horrible, horrible "the only thing you're going to have handed to you is your Arse" line that Balor did - he wouldn't have said it, or he would have had it changed, because Chris Jericho would never say something that sucks, because ultimately, he knows, probably better than anyone on WWE, what sucks and what is entertaining.

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Post by Kay Fabe Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:58 pm

I used to love Jericho then from around 2010-ish I began to resent him, by the time he was given the Mania run with Punk I had already gave up on him, his own desire to make a controversial return died a slow lingering death and the fact they put him with Punk for his World Title WrestleMania run meant his averageness was over exposed in a bad way, anytime he returned since then I was bored before his first segment was over.

I felt the same this year too, nothing he did interested me and I still don't know why AJ never went over him at WrestleMania but something happened in the middle of the year, he totally tapped into the online criticism he received for going over AJ and he flipped it and started talking about burying talent, he started being the guy fans hated on in an obvious way, I thought that was genuis and while it's something quite simplistic in it's execution that's because Jericho made it look simple, everyone would be playing the crowd if it were so easy.

I'm more about a character base than a Wrestler base, I'll more often than not pick the better character but while I've built Jericho up I couldn't pick him here, as good as he's been on the mic anytime he's had a match I've zoned out, I'm still not interested in the fueds he has when it comes to actual combat.

Bàlor had a tremendous first half of the year, the 2nd half kicked off quite spectacularly too, I like his style and while height might give off a negative spin to many but this is where his Demon King persona is a great leveler, it gives off a different aura, an aggressive side to him, his start on the main roster was as good as it gets, he was really unlucky with his injury but what he achieved all year was for me more than enough to at least make the semi's of this competition.

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Post by Crimey Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:00 am


I used to love Jericho then from around 2010-ish I began to resent him, by the time he was given the Mania run with Punk I had already gave up on him, his own desire to make a controversial return died a slow lingering death and the fact they put him with Punk for his World Title WrestleMania run meant his averageness was over exposed in a bad way, anytime he returned since then I was bored before his first segment was over.

I felt the same this year too, nothing he did interested me and I still don't know why AJ never went over him at WrestleMania but something happened in the middle of the year, he totally tapped into the online criticism he received for going over AJ and he flipped it and started talking about burying talent, he started being the guy fans hated on in an obvious way, I thought that was genuis and while it's something quite simplistic in it's execution that's because Jericho made it look simple, everyone would be playing the crowd if it were so easy.

Totally agree.

Loved him from 2008-2010, then he got lazier and lazier and his constant returns became so boring, he was never around long enough to properly develop a good character. This latest return seemed to be following the same pattern and by his own account he was supposed to be gone after Wrestlemania. His partnership with Owens and the character he's playing now is really entertaining and again a reinvention from what he has done previously.

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