Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

by tigertattie Thu 08 Dec 2016, 5:29 pm

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2007–08
28 December 2007, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 35–31 Glasgow Warriors
11 April 2008, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 54–49

2008–09
26 December 2008, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 39–6 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–20 Edinburgh
Winner: Edinburgh 59–31

2009–10
27 December 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–12 Edinburgh
2 January 2010, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 15–22 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–27

2010–11
27 December 2010, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 30–18 Edinburgh
2 January 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 28–17 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–46

2011–12
26 December 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–23 Glasgow Warriors
1 January 2012, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 17–12 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 40–35

2012–13
21 December 2012, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
29 December 2012, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 17–21 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 44–31

2013–14
26 December 2013, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 16–20 Glasgow Warriors
26 April 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 37–34 Edinburgh (postponed from 1st Jan due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Glasgow 57–50

2014–15
27 December 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 16–6 Edinburgh
2 January 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 20–8 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Edinburgh 26–24

2015–16
27 December 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–11 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2016, Murrayfield Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 11–14 Edinburgh (moved from Scotstoun due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Edinburgh 37–22

Winners tally
Glasgow Warriors - 6
Edinburgh - 3

Some tidying up could be required as I'm no a PC wizz!

PS - Any player from Ayr is not necessarily "World class"

by Mad for Chelsea Tue 24 Jan 2017, 3:57 pm

I can work out some of these, but some of them I have no idea where they come from Laugh

by jimbopip Tue 24 Jan 2017, 4:32 pm

I'm not sure if I posted it here, but if I did I apologise for being repetitive. Again.
One of my strange little quirks is that I love language and how it constantly evolves and absorbs influences. (Strangely Shrek was not impressed when I told him how amazing it was that "Meet them aff the bus " is now frequently used on these boards). So in love with language am I that while most of you watch Countdown to lech over Rachel Riley I fantasise about sharing a glass of wine with Suzy Dent and getting all geeky over etymology.
Anyway, on the subject of nicknames: I was the fist to suggest that Big Brian be known as Naughty Boy since we already had a Messiah. Imagine my shock when he came on against Tiggers and I heard dozens of people in the stand I was in calling out, "You're not the messiah: you're a very Naughty Boy."
Actually, I was slightly befuddled by beer at that point and it wasn't until Sunday afternoon that I realised what had occurred. We all know we have a shared argot on here but to hear complete strangers using it in a public arena is way too Toby (to quote Joss Wheedon).

by Eejit Tue 24 Jan 2017, 4:58 pm

Perhaps we do it this way - Weej team stolen from wikipedia.

Adam Ashe -
Alex Allan -
Alex Dunbar -
Ali Price -
Brian Alainu'uese -
Chris Fusaro -
Corey Flynn -
D'Arcy Rae -
Djustice Sears-Duru -
Finn Russell -
Fraser Brown -
Fraser Lyle -
Gordon Reid -
Grayson Hart -
Greg Peterson -
Hagen Schulte -
Henry Pyrgos -
Hugh Blake -
James Malcolm -
Jarrod Firth -
Jonny Gray -
Josh Strauss -
Junior Bulumakau -
Langilangi Haupeakui -
Lee Jones -
Leonardo Sarto -
Lewis Wynne -
Mark Bennett -
Matt Smith -
Nemia Kenatale -
Nick Grigg -
Pat MacArthur -
Peter Horne -
Peter Murchie -
Ratu Tagive -
Richie Vernon -
Rob Harley -
Rory Clegg -
Rory Hughes -
Ruaridh MacKenzie -
Ryan Grant -
Ryan Wilson -
Sam Johnson -
Scott Cummings -
Sean Lamont -
Sila Puafisi -
Simone Favaro -
Stuart Hogg -
Tim Swinson -
Tjiuee Uanivi -
Tommy Seymour -
Zander Fagerson -

by jimbopip Tue 24 Jan 2017, 5:11 pm

Eejit wrote:Perhaps we do it this way - Weej team stolen from wikipedia.

Adam Ashe - Arthur
Alex Allan - Jinksy
Alex Dunbar - Eck the street brawler
Ali Price - Sonic, All 1 Price,
Brian Alainu'uese - Naughty Boy
Chris Fusaro - Fuzzy
Corey Flynn -
D'Arcy Rae -
Djustice Sears-Duru -
Finn Russell - Dancer
Fraser Brown - KEM (Keith Earl's Mate)
Fraser Lyle -
Gordon Reid - Shrek (but be careful he's not in earshot)
Grayson Hart -
Greg Peterson - Oscar
Hagen Schulte -
Henry Pyrgos - Henners Piecrust
Hugh Blake - Shuggy B the Hoodie
James Malcolm - Dr Malcolm
Jarrod Firth - The Pukekohe Kid ( although biggest disappointment might be more suitable)
Jonny Gray - Ickle Jonny
Josh Strauss - Bluto
Junior Bulumakau -
Langilangi Haupeakui -
Lee Jones - Selkirk Pixie
Leonardo Sarto - Jean Paul
Lewis Wynne -
Mark Bennett - Messiah
Matt Smith -
Nemia Kenatale -
Nick Grigg -
Pat MacArthur - WePee
Peter Horne - Furra Linee
Peter Murchie -
Ratu Tagive -
Richie Vernon -
Rob Harley - Tackle Monster
Rory Clegg -
Rory Hughes - Rozza
Ruaridh MacKenzie -
Ryan Grant - Bane
Ryan Wilson - Batman
Sam Johnson -
Scott Cummings -
Sean Lamont - Schlong, Centurion
Sila Puafisi -
Simone Favaro - Human Exocet
Stuart Hogg -
Tim Swinson -
Tjiuee Uanivi -
Tommy Seymour - Tennessee Tam
Zander Fagerson - Ragnar The Pretty, Lord Ragnar Of Fagerson

by funnyExiledScot Tue 24 Jan 2017, 5:33 pm

Tim Swinson - Tiny
Stuart Hogg - Attitude

The rest are not good enough to have nicknames.

by Eejit Tue 24 Jan 2017, 5:37 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Tim Swinson - Tiny
Stuart Hogg - Attitude

The rest are not good enough to have nicknames.

By that logic let's just name CDP 'Glasgow's next No8' and not bother with the rest of the Edinburgh team.

Suggestions seen occasionally:
Matt Smith - Doctor Who
Peter Murchie - The Murch
Also 'Twolangis' which really makes me laugh more than it should.

by **George Carlin** Tue 24 Jan 2017, 6:04 pm

Adam Ashe - Arthur
Alex Allan - Jinksy
Alex Dunbar - Eck the street brawler
Ali Price - Sonic, All 1 Price,
Brian Alainu'uese - Naughty Boy, Big Brian, Large Brian
Chris Fusaro - Fozzy
Corey Flynn - Inlike
D'Arcy Rae - Mister Darcy
Djustice Sears-Duru - Rough Djustice
Finn Russell - Dancer
Fraser Brown - KEM (Keith Earl's Mate)
Fraser Lyle - Sandy
Gordon Reid - Shrek (but be careful he's not in earshot)
Grayson Hart - Tony
Greg Peterson - Oscar
Hagen Schulte - Hagen Dazs
Henry Pyrgos - Henners Piecrust
Hugh Blake - Shuggy B the Hoodie
James Malcolm - Dr Malcolm
Jarrod Firth - The Pukekohe Kid ( although biggest disappointment might be more suitable)
Jonny Gray - Ickle Jonny
Josh Strauss - Bluto
Junior Bulumakau - Junior
Langilangi Haupeakui - Ganglangilangi
Lee Jones - the Selkirk Pixie
Leonardo Sarto - Jean Paul
Lewis Wynne - that youngfeller
Mark Bennett - the Messiah
Matt Smith - Diet John Barclay
Nemia Kenatale - the New Weegie From Fiji
Nick Grigg - 5 foot wide
Pat MacArthur - WePee
Peter Horne - Furra Linee
Peter Murchie - Hogg's Biatch
Ratu Tagive - Ratu tooie
Richie Vernon - the Centre
Rob Harley - the Ginger Tackle Monster
Rory Clegg - Rubbisj
Rory Hughes - Rozza
Ruaridh MacKenzie - the New Rhubarb
Ryan Grant - Bane
Ryan Wilson - Batman
Sam Johnson - Samwise
Scott Cummings - AndGoings
Sean Lamont - Schlong, Centurion, Methusalah, the Syphillis Ridden Old Love Monkey
Sila Puafisi - Poor Faeces
Simone Favaro - Human Exocet, Nina
Stuart Hogg - Mister Attitude Problem, Mr AP
Tim Swinson - Tiny Tim
Tjiuee Uanivi - Tjiuee Not Dewey
Tommy Seymour - Tennessee Tam
Zander Fagerson - Ragnar The Pretty, Lord Ragnar Of Fagerson, Buffy's Mate

by tigertattie Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:10 am

So is it only the unwashed that are getting nicknames?

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:12 am

Scotland's AI fixtures have been announced:

Samoa
Australlia
New Zealand

Good to start against one of the lower ranked teams to hopefully give us momentum going into the big two. That is a tough series!

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:30 am

Great article by Tom English as per...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38735486

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:32 am

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Great article by Tom English as per...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38735486

Tom English is one of the best rugby journalists out there.

He is utterly hated by Rangers fans though - his Twitter feed is quite funny to see what everyone is saying to him!

by Hazel Sapling Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:49 am

George Carlin wrote:
Alex Dunbar - Eck the street brawler, Pudding

by nickj Wed 25 Jan 2017, 9:51 am

Very warm and honest video interview with BVC too. I've made my feelings known about his removal, but he really does sound like a top bloke. I hope he nails it at Montpellier and in some ways I hope he takes a few Scots with him alongside Hinesy. You never know he could be tempted back one day with a DOR role?

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:15 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Great article by Tom English as per...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38735486

Tom English is one of the best rugby journalists out there.

He is utterly hated by Rangers fans though - his Twitter feed is quite funny to see what everyone is saying to him!

I'm surprised Rangers fans know how to use Twitter.

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:22 am

Is FES not a Rangers fan? Or have I just made that up completely...?

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:23 am

Yep.

Glory Hunter.

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:28 am

Well they've not had much glory lately, but to be fair they are only 5 years old as a club!

Apologies for the wendyball jokes... Sorry

by IanBru Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:29 am

Adam Ashe - Arthur
Alex Allan - Jinksy
Alex Dunbar - Eck the street brawler
Ali Price - Sonic, All 1 Price,
Brian Alainu'uese - Naughty Boy, Big Brian, Large Brian
Chris Fusaro - Fozzy
Corey Flynn - Inlike
D'Arcy Rae - Mister Darcy
Djustice Sears-Duru - Rough Djustice, Djustice League of Canada
Finn Russell - Dancer
Fraser Brown - KEM (Keith Earl's Mate)
Fraser Lyle - Sandy
Gordon Reid - Shrek (but be careful he's not in earshot)
Grayson Hart - Tony
Greg Peterson - Oscar
Hagen Schulte - Hagen Dazs
Henry Pyrgos - Henners Piecrust, Pythagoras
Hugh Blake - Shuggy B the Hoodie
James Malcolm - Dr Malcolm
Jarrod Firth - The Pukekohe Kid ( although biggest disappointment might be more suitable)
Jonny Gray - Ickle Jonny
Josh Strauss - Bluto
Junior Bulumakau - Junior
Langilangi Haupeakui - Ganglangilangi
Lee Jones - the Selkirk Pixie
Leonardo Sarto - Jean Paul
Lewis Wynne - that youngfeller
Mark Bennett - the Messiah
Matt Smith - Diet John Barclay, , Wibbley-wobbley timey-wimey
Nemia Kenatale - the New Weegie From Fiji
Nick Grigg - 5 foot wide, Man on Fire
Pat MacArthur - WePee
Peter Horne - Furra Linee
Peter Murchie - Hogg's Biatch
Ratu Tagive - Ratu tooie
Richie Vernon - the Centre, V8
Rob Harley - the Ginger Tackle Monster, Big Boab
Rory Clegg - Rubbish, Standing Clegg
Rory Hughes - Rozza
Ruaridh MacKenzie - the New Rhubarb
Ryan Grant - Bane
Ryan Wilson - Batman
Sam Johnson - Samwise
Scott Cummings - AndGoings
Sean Lamont - Schlong, Centurion, Methusalah, the Syphillis Ridden Old Love Monkey
Sila Puafisi - Poor Faeces
Simone Favaro - Human Exocet, Nina
Stuart Hogg - Mister Attitude Problem, Mr AP
Tim Swinson - Tiny Tim
Tjiuee Uanivi - Tjiuee Not Dewey, Chewbacca
Tommy Seymour - Tennessee Tam
Zander Fagerson - Ragnar The Pretty, Lord Ragnar Of Fagerson, Buffy's Mate

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:32 am

He could have supported Forres Mechanics, Inverness or even Aberdeen.

But no....one half of the ugly sisters.

To go back to rugby.

I am really perplexed about Edinburgh and their consistency at the moment. How can they win their group in Europe but be so sh1te in the league.

Bizarre.

by TJ Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:45 am

Tattie - 'cos the minnows cup is full of similarly Poopie teams?

by tigertattie Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:50 am

nickj wrote:Very warm and honest video interview with BVC too. I've made my feelings known about his removal, but he really does sound like a top bloke. I hope he nails it at Montpellier and in some ways I hope he takes a few Scots with him alongside Hinesy. You never know he could be tempted back one day with a DOR role?

BVC - The only Scotland manager in 25 years that won't be boo'd on his last game in charge!

by IanBru Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:55 am

It's a strange one, my dad grew up supporting Rangers, and if it was purely down to religious association I'd support them too. But during my time living in Glasgow I saw the really dark side of things, especially having to defend my English sister-in-law from some Rangers fans latching onto an Orange march (carrying, ironically, the Union flag) because she had the 'wrong' accent. I can't help wondering how many of those numbskulls actually practice the religion they profess to be defending... My inevitable conclusion is that I want nothing to do with either club, and my Dad feels the same.

BT and Sky love to make a point about Glasgow being a 'football city', as though it makes the Warriors' achievements that much more notable. To a certain extent they're right - we do compete with the round-ball game - but it goes a bit deeper than that. There are still people in Glasgow who call rugby a 'posh boys' sport', while speeding off in their Audi Q7s and BMW X5s, and blowing far more money for an Ibrox or Parkhead season ticket than I do for Scotstoun (and no European matches included!).

Where BT need a bit of nuance is the breakdown of the Scotstoun faithful. There are a lot of people from traditional rugby backgrounds, then there are people who like both sports, then there is a sizeable chunk of supporters who have been turned off by sectarianism and want some Friday night entertainment that they can take the kids to, enjoy a beer, and talk to opposition supporters without any 'risk'.

So in many ways, Warriors haven't grown despite the Old Firm; it could be argued that they have grown because of the nature of the Old Firm. Of course, the vast majority of Old Firm supporters are perfectly normal, and even the '90-minute warriors' are fine the rest of the time.

As a postscript, my cousins were born and raised on a beef farm in Alberta, Canada. One of my earliest memories was visiting them in the summer and playing football in one of the fields. They'd rigged up goals at either end of the field, with 'Rangers FC' and 'Celtic' painted above each goal. My cousin explained, in a broad Canadian accent, that they'd put the Celtic goal at one end because it was less sheltered, so the cows liked to s**t there. Yay.

by tigertattie Wed 25 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

I saw a news article the other day (I can't remember which paper it was in though) where it said that more kids are taking up rugby in schools than there are those taking up football.

I'm sure it had old Dodson in the article!

Although football is still more popular, the growth of Rugby now exceeds the roundball game!

by **George Carlin** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 12:50 pm

Just in case they get even more upset, feel free to try the nicknames with the effeminates:

Neil Cochrane
Ross Ford - the Kelso Colossus, Mister Chinhook, Can't Hook Won't Hook
Stuart McInally - Rambo
George Turner
Nick Beavon
Simon Berghan
Kevin Bryce
Jack Cosgrove
Allan Dell - Dingly
Alasdair Dickinson - Dicko
WP Nel - Diamond, Nelly the Elephant
Rory Sutherland
Anton Bresler - Bezerker
Lewis Carmichael
Grant Gilchrist - Porcelain
Fraser McKenzie
Ben Toolis - The Good Toolis
Magnus Bradbury - Wrecking Ball
John Hardie - Hardie Boy
Viliame Mata - MadMata
Jamie Ritchie
Hamish Watson - MiniHardie
Cornell du Preez- the Beast
Viliami Fihaki - Who the Fihak
Nasi Manu - the Captain, Squinty
Nathan Fowles - Prisoner's Girlfriend
Sam Hidalgo-Clyne - Samwise, the Spaniard, Boyband
Sean Kennedy
Jason Tovey
Duncan Weir - the Exfoliated Meatball
Michael Allen
Phil Burleigh - Hurley
Chris Dean
Junior Rasolea
Sasa Tofilau
Tom Brown - Schooldays
Will Helu - Hellooo Ladies
Damien Hoyland
Alex Northam
Rory Scholes
Glenn Bryce
Blair Kinghorn

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Wed 25 Jan 2017, 12:53 pm

Rory Scholes - the disappearing man

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 12:57 pm

George Carlin wrote:Just in case they get even more upset, feel free to try the nicknames with the effeminates:

Neil Cochrane
Ross Ford - the Kelso Colossus, Mister Chinhook, Can't Hook Won't Hook
Stuart McInally - Rambo
George Turner
Nick Beavon
Simon Berghan Rucksack
Kevin Bryce
Jack Cosgrove
Allan Dell - Dingly
Alasdair Dickinson - Dicko
WP Nel - Diamond, Nelly the Elephant
Rory Sutherland
Anton Bresler - Bezerker
Lewis Carmichael
Grant Gilchrist - Porcelain
Fraser McKenzie
Ben Toolis - The Good Toolis
Magnus Bradbury - Wrecking Ball
John Hardie - Hardie Boy
Viliame Mata - MadMata
Jamie Ritchie Dallas
Hamish Watson - MiniHardie
Cornell du Preez- the Beast
Viliami Fihaki - Who the Fihak
Nasi Manu - the Captain, Squinty
Nathan Fowles - Prisoner's Girlfriend
Sam Hidalgo-Clyne - Samwise, the Spaniard, Boyband
Sean Kennedy
Jason Tovey
Duncan Weir - the Exfoliated Meatball
Michael Allen
Phil Burleigh - Hurley
Chris Dean
Junior Rasolea
Sasa Tofilau
Tom Brown - Schooldays
Will Helu - Hellooo Ladies
Damien Hoyland
Alex Northam
Rory Scholes
Glenn Bryce
Blair Kinghorn

by **George Carlin** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 12:58 pm

nickj wrote:Very warm and honest video interview with BVC too. I've made my feelings known about his removal, but he really does sound like a top bloke. I hope he nails it at Montpellier and in some ways I hope he takes a few Scots with him alongside Hinesy. You never know he could be tempted back one day with a DOR role?

He is going to be the highest paid NH club coach in the world and in a part of France where he'll be treated like a hero. He'll be grand.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 25 Jan 2017, 1:10 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Yep.

Glory Hunter.

I wish.

For what it's worth I have no beef with Tom English. Excellent journalist.

by nickj Wed 25 Jan 2017, 1:12 pm

I'm not entirely sure it'll be 'roses' George, Altrad seems a smidge egotistical, in his own words he is 'one of the most important men in France and probably Europe.'

by funnyExiledScot Wed 25 Jan 2017, 1:28 pm

IanBru wrote:It's a strange one, my dad grew up supporting Rangers, and if it was purely down to religious association I'd support them too. But during my time living in Glasgow I saw the really dark side of things, especially having to defend my English sister-in-law from some Rangers fans latching onto an Orange march (carrying, ironically, the Union flag) because she had the 'wrong' accent. I can't help wondering how many of those numbskulls actually practice the religion they profess to be defending... My inevitable conclusion is that I want nothing to do with either club, and my Dad feels the same.

I'm not going to defend the behaviour of a large number of Rangers fans and, in truth, were I picking a Scottish football team to support from afresh I would choose Inverness Caley Thistle, my local Prem side and where I was born, and stay well away from the Old Firm. However, I've supported Rangers since I was 9, and had every Rangers home top for roughly the next 10 years. Hateley and McCoist were my childhood heroes (I actually cried when McCoist broke his leg against Portugal in 1992) and my weekly subscription to Rangers news arrived every Thursday at school whilst I was down in London. I remember beating Leeds in the 1992 Battle of Britain like it was yesterday, and that was before I had any real interest in rugby. I begged my Mum to let me go to Ibrox for a few home games and, legend that she was, she duly obliged (and there was actually nothing she'd rather have done less). Watching Brian Laudrup torment defences with his incredible skill and balance will always, for me, top all this Messi and Ronaldo nonsense were are supposed to worship these days. I had zero religious motivation for supporting Rangers and that remains the case. My second team, Everton, where I've been a former season ticket holder, was solely down to the Rangers contingent who moved to/from there (Steven, McCall, Durrant, Smith, Knox, Ferguson, Weir, Cleland, Gough, Gascoigne, Arteta, Jelavic etc.).

So, whilst impossible to condone the sectarian nonsense, I would find it impossible not to support them now.

by **BigGee** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 2:44 pm

Bit of a clear out at the Warriors:

Ryan Grant off to Worcester

Langilangi back to the states (family reasons being cited)

Firth off to somewhere in France (clearly not a top end club!)

All kind of predicted, so no great surprises and should hopefully free up a few quid for re-signing some others in the squad.

You would hope that a move might re-vitalise Ryan Grant a little bit, he certainly mentions that in his goodbye statement. He is only 31 and could certainly play on for a good few more years if he can re-discover some form. Easier said than done unfortunately, but still it was a move to Glasgow that turned him into a good player in the first place.

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 3:00 pm

I'm surprised they're happy to lose Grant during the 6N period - it can probably be concluded then that he was viewed as bottom of the pecking order for the looseheads!

We could concievably see Shrek and Allan involved with Scotland at some point so who does that leave Glasgow with covering loosehead? Djustice and....?

by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 25 Jan 2017, 3:10 pm

Grant to Worcester?

He's not that bad surely?

by **BigGee** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 3:14 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I'm surprised they're happy to lose Grant during the 6N period - it can probably be concluded then that he was viewed as bottom of the pecking order for the looseheads!

We could concievably see Shrek and Allan involved with Scotland at some point so who does that leave Glasgow with covering loosehead? Djustice and....?

That is a little surprising but I guess they thought the sooner he was off the payroll the better plus it gives him the chance to have a run at a contract for next season if he helps them stay up.

I guess we kind of need to see what DSD can do, he has been here for a season now and hardly played even though he seemed highly rated. Hopefully we will get one of Allan or Reid back and if not, will be picking up someone from the club game to sit on the bench.

by **RDW** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 3:19 pm

To be fair with Dickinson and Sutherland injured and Dell with Scotland I'm not even sure Edinburgh have a reserve loosehead left!

by funnyExiledScot Wed 25 Jan 2017, 3:33 pm

BigGee wrote:

Langilangi back to the states (family reasons being cited)

Anyone still think he's a "diamond in the rough", and a worthwhile exercise for Glasgow??

Total waste of time and money.

by **BigGee** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
BigGee wrote:

Langilangi back to the states (family reasons being cited)

Anyone still think he's a "diamond in the rough", and a worthwhile exercise for Glasgow??

Total waste of time and money.

Fortunately, I don't imagine he cost very much money!

Toonie has made it a bit of his thing to take a punt on a player here and there. You win some, you lose some. At least this one was all over and done with quite quickly. Firth is really the one we should be asking questions about as he has never even remotely looked like being fit enough to play and it has taken a full season to get rid of him. Langi at least looked like he had the tools and I can see what attracted them. Unfortunately, it does not look as if he had the mind-set to go with it.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 25 Jan 2017, 4:38 pm

BigGee wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
BigGee wrote:

Langilangi back to the states (family reasons being cited)

Anyone still think he's a "diamond in the rough", and a worthwhile exercise for Glasgow??

Total waste of time and money.

Fortunately, I don't imagine he cost very much money!

Toonie has made it a bit of his thing to take a punt on a player here and there. You win some, you lose some. At least this one was all over and done with quite quickly. Firth is really the one we should be asking questions about as he has never even remotely looked like being fit enough to play and it has taken a full season to get rid of him. Langi at least looked like he had the tools and I can see what attracted them. Unfortunately, it does not look as if he had the mind-set to go with it.

It's rare that I get to say "I told you so", so just let me get on with basking in it for a short while.

Worth adding that Toonie gets more right than wrong, which certainly hasn't been the case with Edinburgh!

by tigertattie Wed 25 Jan 2017, 4:47 pm

Is Atiga still selling pies at HQ at halftime?

by **BigGee** Wed 25 Jan 2017, 5:17 pm

tigertattie wrote:Is Atiga still selling pies at HQ at halftime?

When he was playing, he was eating them at half time!

by Eejit Wed 25 Jan 2017, 7:17 pm

Certainly won't be the last on their way out. Worcester will be chuffed at getting Grant as I think they've lost their starting loose head to Gloucester for next season.

Wonder if this paves the way for Rennie to bring some absolute animal over from New Zealand. Also I see that the Chiefs have a Scottish scrumhalf listed in their team. Can't be getting too much game time behind Kerr-Barlow.

by tigertattie Thu 26 Jan 2017, 9:28 am

I wonder if Rennie has any influence over who is staying or going at the moment?

You'd think he'd have a few players he'd like to bring with him to Glasgow, but will there be room? Will he be making room?

by **BigGee** Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:14 am

tigertattie wrote:I wonder if Rennie has any influence over who is staying or going at the moment?

You'd think he'd have a few players he'd like to bring with him to Glasgow, but will there be room? Will he be making room?

You can bet your life he will be having an influence.

That was mentioned during the announcement as one of the reasons for the long lead in so he could have a say in recruitment. It makes a lot of sense, as so often new coaches arrive at clubs and inherit squads that can't play the way they want them to play. You would hope at Glasgow that won't be so much of an issue, as his teams in NZ very much play in a similar style.

He also mentioned that he did have a few players in mind who might like to come over with him.

by **RDW** Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:15 am

Edinburgh highlights - doesn't look like a sold out stadium!

https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/824559861136576512

by IanBru Thu 26 Jan 2017, 11:00 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh highlights - doesn't look like a sold out stadium!

https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/824559861136576512

@realDonaldTrump wrote:Crooked @CNN saying My Arseside wasn't filled on Friday night. That's why more people watch @ApprenticeNBC. LOSERS. #FakeNews

by Hazel Sapling Thu 26 Jan 2017, 11:07 am

On the risky signings both teams have tried, the SRU have not been too horrible (looking at opportunity cost).

Hits
Matawalu, Nakarawa, Nel, Bresler, Johnson, Burleigh, Puafisi, CDP, Strauss, B Toolis, Allen, Favaro

Unclear/Moderate Success
Coman (not a bad player, got overplayed which is a coach issue), De Klerk (would have been a hit until he asked the number of the wrong girl), Mata, Jerry, Djustice, Fowles, A Toolis, Petersen, Uanivi, Beard, Junior, Sarto, Brian

Failures/Probable Failures
TwoLangi, A Strauss, Firth, Big T, Manu, Flynn, Helu, Scholes, Isles

The failures on the list tend to be expensive. Manu, Big T, Scholes and Flynn look like the big ones. Firth struggled to get into the Chiefs set-up so wonder if Rennie kicked him out quick. That list tends to show we scout well in the Currie Cup and the 7s circuit. Rubbish at going to NZ.

by highland_scot Thu 26 Jan 2017, 11:29 am

Hazel Sapling wrote:On the risky signings both teams have tried, the SRU have not been too horrible (looking at opportunity cost).

Hits
Matawalu, Nakarawa, Nel, Bresler, Johnson, Burleigh, Puafisi, CDP, Strauss, B Toolis, Allen, Favaro

Unclear/Moderate Success
Coman (not a bad player, got overplayed which is a coach issue), De Klerk (would have been a hit until he asked the number of the wrong girl), Mata, Jerry, Djustice, Fowles, A Toolis, Petersen, Uanivi, Beard, Junior, Sarto, Brian

Failures/Probable Failures
TwoLangi, A Strauss, Firth, Big T, Manu, Flynn, Helu, Scholes, Isles

The failures on the list tend to be expensive. Manu, Big T, Scholes and Flynn look like the big ones. Firth struggled to get into the Chiefs set-up so wonder if Rennie kicked him out quick. That list tends to show we scout well in the Currie Cup and the 7s circuit. Rubbish at going to NZ.

You've missed some of Edinburgh's finest:
Izak Van Der Westhuizen
Wicus Blaauw
Ben Atiga (that Strauss/Atiga midfield was something to behold...)
That Tongan fullback they signed last year who never played
Lots of average 10s from overseas club rugby who only lasted a couple of months apiece

On the failures I wouldn't say Big T was that bad - yes, he didn't live up to the hype but there was too much hype. Did we get his contract bought out?
Manu has looked like a hit whenever he's managed to be fit, he's just really struggled to come back from injuries.
As for Isles he was never going to make it - that's a guy who makes Lee Jones (pre-Glasgow) look massive!

Guys like Flynn may yet come good - his playing days are few and I'd hope he's providing good experience and mentoring behind the scenes. He also seems to have done ok whenever he has got on the pitch.

by Hazel Sapling Thu 26 Jan 2017, 11:35 am

I was mainly trying to limit the list for after the Townsend take over (2012 onwards).

I forgot about the Tongan full back. It seems strange about the 10's who seem to be doing well in NZ and do rubbish in Edinburgh. Big T was a huge opportunity cost and that was the reason I put him in the failure bin.

Hilterbrand or whatever the hooker was called was a failure but Andress was a moderate success. Berghan is in the same boat at the moment as unclear and Tovey is a moderate success. Allan Dell was a hit.

I need help to make a full list. I am not George Carlin.

by EWT Spoons Thu 26 Jan 2017, 12:21 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh highlights - doesn't look like a sold out stadium!

https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/824559861136576512

The official attendance was listed as 5.2k, which i think is slightly short of capacity. What's clear though is the SRU/Edinburgh could better utilise the stadium. They have enough seats etc, but a lot of people opted not to use the seats and were standing along the pitch (which was the side the tv gantry was on).

If this is going to be the case going forward then they could probably make more tickets available based on the assumption people will choose to stand rather than sit, however the caveat to this is that it was a fairly mild & dry evening. If it's pouring down with rain the number standing may decrease and the covered seats will be more popular.

However despite a number of seats going unused it certainly felt pretty full and I would imagine it likely was near capacity, but you cannot see the people standing pitchside due to the position of the cameras.

by **George Carlin** Thu 26 Jan 2017, 12:53 pm

BigGee wrote:
tigertattie wrote:I wonder if Rennie has any influence over who is staying or going at the moment?

You'd think he'd have a few players he'd like to bring with him to Glasgow, but will there be room? Will he be making room?

You can bet your life he will be having an influence.

That was mentioned during the announcement as one of the reasons for the long lead in so he could have a say in recruitment. It makes a lot of sense, as so often new coaches arrive at clubs and inherit squads that can't play the way they want them to play. You would hope at Glasgow that won't be so much of an issue, as his teams in NZ very much play in a similar style.

He also mentioned that he did have a few players in mind who might like to come over with him.

Correct. For example, we already know that Brian Alainu'uese is there because Rennie strongly recommended that he be signed.

He had played 2 or 3 times for the Chiefs but was wasted there and a bit annoyed about lack of game time.

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