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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:08 pm

So I've had my first round with my new Miura wedge. And what a lovely club it is... Having used it only on the range on Saturday I got out on the course on Sunday.

It performs wonderfully well. The only problem I have is that it pops out of the sand with so much more power... and glides through it effortlessly leading to a few bunker shots which way a long way long of the target area!

In terms of the flight and the spin. It has a rifle 6.5 in there. Which is a lot firmer than my bog standard Wedge Flex shafts in the vokeys. The flight is a lot flatter and more aggressive. But with the way the face responds it makes no difference on the shorter chips and pitches. In fact if anything it responds a lot better off the face than a vokey.

From the tight and very firm fairways I'm playing on these days it is wonderful. It has a huge amount of bounce at 14 degrees. Yet the grind and the sole width make it invisible. In fact I think it plays better off a tight lie than my low bounce vokey used to.

All in all this is a very well made head, fitted and put together by a master. If you can I really recommend getting your hands on one of these things.

Only thing I need to decide on is when to replace the 54 degree vokey and whether to get the guy to tweak the loft a little for me.

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Post by super_realist Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:10 pm

LJ, I don't wish to be vulgar and talk money but as they have a reputation for being pricey how much did you pay for them (per club).

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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:13 pm

I only got a 57 C Grind to start with SR as they are pricey. But for the one wedge, fitted, made to order, then tested and tweaked for loft and lie, and the grip it was £155.

Expensive yes... But I was under no obligation to buy from the fitting (which wasn't charged if I didn't like anything) and considering the results I am more than happy to pay it.

Particularly given the aftersales on this. If the grip is wrong, its changed free of charge. I can have it loft and lie checked as much as I like within 60 days. Even have the shaft changed in that time if I don't like it. It's a level of service you don't get on golf clubs after they walk out of the door given most places. Highly satisfied and this bloke will be fitting me for my next wedge and when it comes time for new irons those as well.
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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:21 pm

Incidentally... It is well worth getting someone to look at the way you hit your pitches/chips and the like with a wedge. It has a big impact on the right club, more so than the ground you typically play on. I am very aggressive with my short shots and on the 8 degree bounce vokey the only part of the club impacting the ground (on a lie board) was the leading edge. You need to be very very precise at impact to do that consistently or there are thins and fats waiting to catch you.

Part of this grind is to help mitigate those potential misses and still allow me to play a very aggressive pitching profile.

Top bloke for the job that he's in.
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Post by super_realist Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:24 pm

Cheers LJ, I've got Cleveland which I love at the moment, but they are getting on a bit and the grooves are becoming worn (thankfully right out of the middle). My 52 is second only to my putter in the use it gets so I'm always open to something which might be suited even better.

Funny how people will spend hundreds on a driver which might only get used a few times a round but the real scoring clubs like putters and wedges hardly get a second look.


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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:29 pm

Very true that.

Most of my shots on par 4 holes are within 100 yards or so and as a result I wanted the very best fit to my game. Well worth it I think.

In fact this Sunday I think I hit only one approach into a par 4 with a club longer than a pitching wedge. And that was straight into the teeth of a gale. (and as it happens one of my better strikes all day. Who can figure this bloody game out!) Of course I should have hit a couple of 9 irons instead of wedges... but as I say my flight is changing and reading the wind is difficult at the moment. Still. I'm happy enough.
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Post by barragan Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:18 pm

I've just had to buy the same Vokey twice in the past 6 months, so paid the same amount as a Miura anyway. I wonder if it would have wandered if it was a Miura?

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Post by JPX Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:55 pm

Interesting review. £155 well spent then?

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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:08 pm

I would say yes. Particularly since the aftersales is so good.

Like sr said. You'll pay 300+ for a driver, and i hit around 4 of those a round at my track, but will skimp on the real scoring clubs. I look at the wedges as second only to the putter in importance, and a close second at that.

When i went to the guy he gave me a list of heads from 60 quid up... It just so happened the miura grind was what i liked. I tried a few others including more expensive options. But this was a different class for me
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Post by JPX Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:13 pm

Have you got a link to the wedge you bought? I've never really considered them as they don't seem readily available in the UK.

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Post by LondonJonnyO Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:48 pm

Sure.

http://www.miuragolf.com/

Theres a list of dealers on there. Mine is the c grind 1957. My fitter was

http://www.leeporter.eu/

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Post by JDandfries Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:47 pm

Are u on commission?

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Post by LondonJonnyO Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:56 pm

JDandfries wrote:Are u on commission?

Obviously not.

But considering the fact that many people bemoan the lack of support from AG and the like once you walk out the door I thought I'd share a completely different story.
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Post by Doc Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:46 pm

LondonJonnyO wrote:
JDandfries wrote:Are u on commission?

Obviously not.

But considering the fact that many people bemoan the lack of support from AG and the like once you walk out the door I thought I'd share a completely different story.

I'm with LJ on this subject, as you can't beat having a specialist build clubs for you, and your individual swing/lack of technique etc. The good guys have a wealth of experience and do the job firstly as a hobby and secondly as a business. My guy emails me at least every month to have a bit of craic and tell me how bad he was the last time he had a round.

As for Lee Porter, my brother in law is seeing him shortly to have a a set of Muiras built. He's had the fitting and said it was brilliant and really glad he took the plunge as he learnt more about his swing and his game, than from any pro he's seen in the past. He plays off 7 has used Ping for years, but trying out different head and shaft combinations is the way forward, as he is also having a Wishon driver made, which surprised him. He hits the ball a mile with his Big Bertha, but after trying a few different combo's the Wishon was different class - for him. thumbsup

I accept that many on here are not bothered about fitting and thats fair comment, but for anyone whose unsure about just buying an expensive piece of kit off the shelf at AG, then get yourself sorted

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Post by JDandfries Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Was only a jest.... but well retorted!


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Post by LondonJonnyO Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:01 pm

JDandfries wrote:Was only a jest.... but well retorted!


Is retorted when you throw up a dodgy dessert and eat it again? cake mad cake
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Post by navyblueshorts Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:16 pm

Interesting that it's got 14° bounce; quite a lot.

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Have to disagree that people ignore the putter cf. the driver though. There are plenty of putter obsessives out there. Wedges are a different kettle of fish though.


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Convince me that mishitting a 14° bounce wedge is better than, say, an 8°? A mishit is still a mishit. Isn't it?
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Post by LondonJonnyO Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:21 pm

Navy. When you mishit a very low bounce wedge with the amount of forward press that I use, and aggressive down strike and only use the leading edge the low bounce angle is going to encourage the leading edge to dig into the ground more deeply and slow the club down a lot faster.


With a higher degree of bounce and that strike pattern the additional bounce on the sole will help by encouraging more of a slide through the turf instead of that digging.

For me that will assist in making a slight mis-strike more forgiving thus increasing my accuracy around the greens. Particularly on the really aggressive pitches that I sometimes play into tight flags.


That sort of profile obviously isn't for everyone as that much bounce can lead to thins if you play the hands level with the ball as the leading edge could be quite a way off the turf.
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Post by navyblueshorts Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:20 pm

LondonJonnyO wrote:Navy. When you mishit a very low bounce wedge with the amount of forward press that I use, and aggressive down strike and only use the leading edge the low bounce angle is going to encourage the leading edge to dig into the ground more deeply and slow the club down a lot faster.


With a higher degree of bounce and that strike pattern the additional bounce on the sole will help by encouraging more of a slide through the turf instead of that digging.

For me that will assist in making a slight mis-strike more forgiving thus increasing my accuracy around the greens. Particularly on the really aggressive pitches that I sometimes play into tight flags.


That sort of profile obviously isn't for everyone as that much bounce can lead to thins if you play the hands level with the ball as the leading edge could be quite a way off the turf.

Ta. Was kind of thinking along those sort of lines. Still got your 8°? Might be a good one to practice with if it requires more accuracy.
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Post by LondonJonnyO Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:25 pm

Nope. Been donated to the ringer as his was nicked
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