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What do you say Mac? It's currently sitting at your annual salary, and it's all for charity, so fits in with your Corbynite agenda. I'll even pick you up from the bus stop.

In 2018, the EuroTour is going to keep two sets of Money lists. Two sets of books, if you will

One for all tournaments (Race to Dubai) and one for lesser tournaments (No Majors, No WGCs, No Rolex Series)

The Top 100 of the RtD will be exempted for the 2019 season

the Top 10 of the "Access Money List" (for those not inside the Top 100 of the RtD) will also be exempted into the 2019 season.

In light of the Huge Money disparity between the Big Tournaments and Small Tournaments of the EuroTour I think this is a good move by the Euro Tour.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/news/newsid=314783.html

super_realist wrote:What do you say Mac? It's currently sitting at your annual salary, and it's all for charity, so fits in with your Corbynite agenda. I'll even pick you up from the bus stop.

Just saw this. I will cover the delivery costs if you bid for it.


This does remind me that you have never followed through on your offer to shout me rounds on the castle course and Trumpton.

I'll chip in with a 10'er

Rory is now signed up to play British Masters

Guessing that the PGATour forced Rory to play the FEX playoffs, so maybe Pelley is using his big club on Rory, forcing him to play in 5 regular Euro Tour Events. Rory has played three thus far (South Africa, Irish, and Scottish Opens) and the requirement is 5.

As of right now, Rory is not on the British Masters entry list. I am sure he will be added shortly.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2017/tournamentid=2017080/teetimes/index.html

I thought the Euro Tour had a requirement that a player had to enter two Fridays before the Tournament.

Maybe Rich Beem gave Rory his sponsor's invite like he did for Poulter two years ago in Hong Kong.

Now the Tour Championship field is confirmed it locks in Augusta invites for 2018 for a few more players: Cantlay, Finau, Hadwin, Hoffman, Perez, Rahm, Simpson and Woodland. Obviously some of those (Rahm, Hoffman) were pretty nailed on to make it by another route.

Apart from any 2017-18 PGA tour winners later in the autumn, the next qualifying cutoff will be the top 50 OWGR at New Year. The highest ranked players currently not already qualified are:
12 Noren
28 Hatton
34 Fitzpatrick
35 Wiesberger
37 Grace
39 Snedeker
40 Haas
48 R Fisher
49 Ikeda
52 Tanihara
56 Poulter
57 Holmes
58 Knox
59 Grillo
60 Steele
61 Westwood
62 Howell III

Noren and Hatton presumably safe, Grace, Fitzpatrick and Wiesberger very nearly. Normally the October-December period sees a boost for players who play internationally as most of the OWGR points are in Asia and SA. Not sure what Sneds' time frame is, and it looks like Howell is set up for his annual race against the clock to squeeze into the field.

Meant to post that on the PGA Tour thread. Never mind.

I don't think Adam Hadwin (#46) is Qualified for the Masters.

Hadwin one of the crop who qualified by getting in to East Lake

Interesting list, Thanks Ned.

Still no timeline on Snedeker's return.

Of those outside the Top 50, I'd put money on Brendan Steele to make up lost ground in the next couple of months.

Four Walker Cuppers, maybe one or two I've missed, playing in Portugal and Scott Gregory especially is off to a nice start.
Syme, Boote and Plant also in the field. Good luck to them.

Where did you go to my lovelies? Lowry and Willett in recently uncharted territory in Portugal.

Missed Jake Singh Brar from the Walker Cuppers - good start for him too.

wrong thread

He's dunne it..

Fantastic win from Paul Dunne! Incredible final round

What did you guys think of the course at Close House? Anyone played it?

For a start it's a bit of a mouthful: Close House Lee Westwood Colt course. Especially when it wasn't designed by either Colt or Westwood.

It is supposedly an homage to Harry Colt, and based on his designs, but I didn't notice any of Colt's design features (and I used to be a member at a Colt designed course). Really can't imagine any Colt courses are routed over such hilly terrain any way.

Pushing all the phoney marketing guff to the back of my mind, it looked quite a fun course to play, I could imagine it being a good venue for a weekend break in Newcastle. Mind you the ground looked very heavy, bit like Celtic Manor, only suitable for summer golf.

Raycastle in Newcastle. Sounds like an episode of Geordie Shore.

Look who's leading the Dunnehill . . . . . . .

Not sure why McGirt & O'Hair didn't tee it up - but JB Holmes didn't have a good day.

The 10 OWGR highest ranked golfers in the Dunhill Links played St Andrews today which I believe is contrary to prior years. The highest ranked players usually play the "Home" course on Saturday.

I know that is true at Pebble Beach.

Sergio and Rahm playing in Italy.

2014 Dunhill Links winner Oliver Wilson was not exempt into the Dunhill Links this year, according to his twitter timeline.

Awesome couple of weeks for Connor Syme. Great start to his professional career.

That should be close to a 60 grand cheque for Syme

59 watches: Fish and V Dub.

What are you projecting super? 254 for the winner next time The Open lands here?

If the Open was played in Late September/Early October when we often get benign weather up here, it could easily be that Kwini. I'm astonished no one has ever shot 59 on such an easy course.

Ray - played both courses in August on our way up to Scotland. I read in one of the papers a reference to Harry Colt, but didn’t see anything at the complex itself. The bunkering does have something of HS Colt about it, but we were more of the mind that the colt reference was related to a very large sculpture of a horse near what we played as the 18th green and 1st tee. This view was reinforced by the name of the other course (Filly) and the sculpture of a horse and foal near the 1st tee.
Agree I’ve never come across a Colt HS course over such hilly terrain, and I’m sticking to the equine story!
Both courses are great fun to play, and the venue is superb. Filly flat, Colt very hilly. Stayed on a deal in one of their rooms, which was fantastic. Amazing value - so much so we kept expecting them to say they had it wrong. Staff, food etc as good as you are going to get. We’re going back next year.
Only defence against pros would be elevation changes and wind, which really didn’t get up.
Highly recommended -great fun to play, but not a GREAT course.

Ross Fisher's result should be just about enough to get him into the 2018 Masters - not arithmetically certain, but very close.

Puligny - equine story sounds good but stumbles in the final furlong. This is from the Close House website:

"Opened in 2011, the Lee Westwood Championship Colt course (named after English Golf architect Harry Colt) is set in almost 200 acres of beautiful Northumberland countryside close to Newcastle upon Tyne."

When you played in August I assume the going was good or firm, I just get the impression that it doesn't take much for the going to become soft or even heavy.

Ray - good spot, hadn’t seen that! Mind you there is also a sculpture of a hurdle complete with horse and jockey between the 2 courses. Interestingly also the card of the course features pictures of the horse sculptures. I think they’ve just got confused!
Going was good, but definitely not bouncy! With the number of slopes, and a stream running through the property I guesss there may be collection areas for water, rather than the whole thing becoming wet. Great fun - wouldn’t put anyone off playing it.

Danny willett blog about his recent troubles.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2017/tournamentid=2017084/news/newsid=334042.html

McLaren wrote:Danny willett blog about his recent troubles.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2017/tournamentid=2017084/news/newsid=334042.html

Tks Mac,
Pretty honest self-assessment I would think.

kwinigolfer wrote:

McLaren wrote:Danny willett blog about his recent troubles.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2017/tournamentid=2017084/news/newsid=334042.html

Tks Mac,
Pretty honest self-assessment I would think.

Agreed. Last line says it all in my mind. "Ultimately, I’m a husband, I’m a father (I have another kid coming in December) and I have a Green Jacket hanging up at home. I’m pretty lucky and I never forget that."
He may be a one hit wonder, but how many other golfers have got one of the ultimate prizes?

I know Kwini has expressed doubts over the Eddie Pepperell blog, and I don't know who else might be interested... and I'm not that convinced by some of the things in this anyway. But I don't think there's another pro golfer writing stuff like this right now so I'm posting it anyway:
https://eddiepepperell.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/october-ramble/amp/

Good piece by Eddie Pep, and interesting self-analysis on his swing/game - though not sure about his economic analysis, especially where his inhibitions are concerned!
Thanks Ned.

NedB-H wrote:I know Kwini has expressed doubts over the Eddie Pepperell blog, and I don't know who else might be interested... and I'm not that convinced by some of the things in this anyway. But I don't think there's another pro golfer writing stuff like this right now so I'm posting it anyway:
https://eddiepepperell.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/october-ramble/amp/

Thanks for sharing this. Really refreshing honesty from EP.

What are the doubts / unconvincing things in this blog?

Whats Ross Fisher got to do to win?

While in contention this week in Milan he shot a 63 and last week shot a 61 while in contention for the Dunhill links.


Seemed like a pretty good field for the Italian Open, was this due to the Rolex series classification?

If the Rolex thing was a reason for a better field does it offer some support to the idea the ET is heading for a clear 2 tier structure?

Does the last couple of weeks make "American Forename" Hatton a shoe in for the Ryder Cup? Poisson can't have done himself any harm either.

I would guess that 2 wins in a ryder cup qualification period should guarantee him a place. Clearly a good player.

McLaren wrote:Whats Ross Fisher got to do to win?

While in contention this week in Milan he shot a 63 and last week shot a 61 while in contention for the Dunhill Links

Score better than Hatton over 4 rounds. Not a lot of love for Tyrell on here, I know he's a bit stroppy at times, but he's nothing compared to Sergio on his period and he gets plenty of plaudits. His game reminds me of Casey, hopefully he won't turn out to be as much of a choker.

I kinda like Hatton, even though he went to Burger King to celebrate his back to back wins.

What's wrong with that Mac? I wouldn't go there, but aren't you being a bit of a snob by looking down your neb at him for doing it?

Golfers, like footballers aren't exactly cultured people by and large. You aren't likely to see them in Noma or The Dorchester restaurant. They haven't had a proper education by and large.

What would you prefer him to do? Go down the library and read Doak? Go on a bus tour? Go and buy a Bentley like every other sporting success cliché.

I don't mind Hatton at all, and hes from Wycombe. Grew up playing a course I still play at. A bit stroppy at times, but that doesn't bother me at all.

Didn't he eat a birger king at Milan Airport? Nowt wrong with that. Nothing wrong with grabbing a burger king anywhere to ve fair.

Wouldn't be my choice of eatery if I were in Milan but if he was in the airport I guess the choice is limited.

super_realist wrote:What's wrong with that Mac? I wouldn't go there, but aren't you being a bit of a snob by looking down your neb at him for doing it?

Golfers, like footballers aren't exactly cultured people by and large. You aren't likely to see them in Noma or The Dorchester restaurant. They haven't had a proper education by and large.

What would you prefer him to do? Go down the library and read Doak? Go on a bus tour? Go and buy a Bentley like every other sporting success cliché.

I'm not sure you need an education to eat at the Dorchester. Last time I went they didn't ask to see my GCSE certificates (although I brought them with me just in case).

If he fancied a burger I don't see anything wrong with a cheeky BK at the airport, although personally I would have some else if in Milan.

As for the sporting success cliches, I think "American name" (good one, by the way) is following most of them,for example he's driving a lambo with a custom wrap etc.

He has a Uk f1 team name as a first name, which doesn't strike me as being particularly American.

I think you'll find his dad named him after his favourite crisps.

McLaren wrote:Wouldn't be my choice of eatery if I were in Milan but if he was in the airport I guess the choice is limited.

Probably better than at the bus station..

Whoever compared Hatton to Casey had it about right, good players and good to watch but giving off a strong impression the golf courses revolve around them. Young Sergio could be moodier but was equally emotional when things went well, I don't picture Hatton chasing a shot out of the trees in full sprint.

Also everyone knows if you're at BK you skip the burger and gorge on chilli cheese bites.

McLaren wrote:Wouldn't be my choice of eatery if I were in Milan but if he was in the airport I guess the choice is limited.

When was the last time you were in an airport Mac? You are spoilt for choice in them, and not just repulsive take away type establishments either. Some pretty decent places in an airport, though I doubt your gold bus pass gets you into the lounge.  

I had dinner at the Gordon Ramsey restaurant at Heathrow T5. It was pretty good.

I had a BK when I won my 2 recent tour events.

It was pretty good also.