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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:45

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:Apparently Brown took a heavy knock before that, hence him taking a knee - I thought that was simply him in disbelief after dropping the egg!

Why was he still on the pitch then? If he had vision (or handling) problems, he should have made the medics aware. I hate to say it but we are just too tolerant of mediocrity steam

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Post by tigertattie Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:53

High tackles allowed now then are they?
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Post by Eejit Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:55

This is utter pish.

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Post by RDW Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:57

We've put a lot into this for little return - they've got points very easily

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:58

Jesus f u c k. Edinburgh are awful. Hodge hasn't worked, surely Edinburgh can get a decent coach

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Post by tigertattie Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:58

Well there go. Played well for 30 mins but failed to rack up points then total meltdown in the second half.

Time there was a proper clear out at Edinburgh
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Post by RDW Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:59

How was that a penalty?!

We're getting nothing.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 20:59

RDW_Scotland wrote:We've put a lot into this for little return - they've got points very easily
Sadly, a lot of effort but precious little ability. This is why we can't have a 3rd team in Scotland - we don't even have enough decent players for 2

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:00

All falling apart. Pity, as the team is not lacking in effort. MacKenzie and Ritchie in particular.

It isn't fair to blame all this on Hodge, but he isn't the solution either.

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Post by GLove39 Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:01

Anyone else switched over to the Glaws game!? It's free on BT showcase (free view 59 / sky 414)

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:01

What is the point of our front row??

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:05

GLove39 wrote:Anyone else switched over to the Glaws game!? It's free on BT showcase (free view 59 / sky 414)

Hmm, I don't have showcase on Sky

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:05

Bryce is worse than I thought.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:07

Leinster could score 50 here. Heads have dropped.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:10

Well after that scrum it's time to watch something else....

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:11

funnyExiledScot wrote:What is the point of our front row??
I thought the front row had been a rare source of competence. That guy Appiah looks like a decent ball carrier. The backs are honking to a man.

I get annoyed when you see that interview from Tom Brown - we are a close knit bunch of guys etc. Yes, because you should all be ashamed for playing as badly as this.

I can't help but think that something is amiss behind the scenes. CDP goes AWOL, the SA lock whose name I can't remember goes AWOL Manu is permanently "injured"

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:12

The film on Film 4 is good if anyone is interested. Shaun of the Dead on ITV2 is quite funny

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:15

InjuredYetAgain wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:What is the point of our front row??
I thought the front row had been a rare source of competence. That guy Appiah looks like a decent ball carrier. The backs are honking to a man.

We have been penalised at each and every scrum in the second half, apart from the one where CDP got caught trying to pick up the ball.

You are right though, in that the backs have been awful.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:17

Lovely offload though!

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:18

Holy moley this is rancid!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:18

That really was a classic Scottish rugby restart. Zero intensity from the Edinburgh players. They should all be fined a weeks wages for that try alone.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:19

funnyExiledScot wrote:
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funnyExiledScot wrote:What is the point of our front row??
I thought the front row had been a rare source of competence. That guy Appiah looks like a decent ball carrier. The backs are honking to a man.

We have been penalised at each and every scrum in the second half, apart from the one where CDP got caught trying to pick up the ball.

You are right though, in that the backs have been awful.
I guess missing 4 international front row players will take its toll

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:22

Leinster look so much more organised than we do! After two phases in attack our players look completely lost!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:25

InjuredYetAgain wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
InjuredYetAgain wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:What is the point of our front row??
I thought the front row had been a rare source of competence. That guy Appiah looks like a decent ball carrier. The backs are honking to a man.

We have been penalised at each and every scrum in the second half, apart from the one where CDP got caught trying to pick up the ball.

You are right though, in that the backs have been awful.
I guess missing 4 international front row players will take its toll

True, but all these teams are missing players. I'm also not convinced that Berghan would have sorted this out!

Ritchie has been busy though.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:27

Oops, Berghan makes it 5 internationalists - Nel, Ford, Dickinson, Sutherland and Berghan

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 17 Feb 2017, 21:32

InjuredYetAgain wrote:Oops, Berghan makes it 5 internationalists - Nel, Ford, Dickinson, Sutherland and Berghan

Furlong, Cronin, Healy, McGrath....

Let's not kids ourselves. We have nothing like the depth that Leinster has. This game is ample evidence.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sat 18 Feb 2017, 06:14

InjuredYetAgain wrote:Oops, Berghan makes it 5 internationalists - Nel, Ford, Dickinson, Sutherland and Berghan
McInally too. Also Kevin Bryce is out too if that says anything.

Edinburgh have depth but it's stretched to its limit at the moment and was thoroughly exposed in Dublin. Badly.

That's 5 props and 2 hookers unavailable. This was Edinburgh's bottom-of-the-barrel front row selection. The starters were 3rd choice at best with some Marshmallow Fluff on the bench.

McCallum has a big future but is still very green. Cosgrove was okay in the loose but again, too green. Cochrane, however, played well and Edinburgh missed him when he went off.

As for the reserve front row. They added nothing and got utterly squished. Derrick Appiah - Italian qualified 22yr old, on 3 month loan from Worcester and looks gash. Nick Beavon and George Turner - might be good in the Premiership but the step up to Pro12 seems too much.

When Edinburgh emptied their bench, it was like a horror movie, Leinster dined on a buffet of meat pies (to quote the Honey Badger).

And anyway, the backs were poo, which undermined any good work done by the forwards. picard
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Post by R!skysports Sat 18 Feb 2017, 06:33

Have the Edinburgh fans lost the will to even have match threads any more

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Post by George Carlin Sat 18 Feb 2017, 08:42

So Edinburgh kept it under 40 points. 

That means that morally, we win.
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Post by George Carlin Sat 18 Feb 2017, 08:51

Just saw that Maitland went off injured when Sarries lost to Gloucester at the weekend. 
What the feck was he doing playing?
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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 08:58

I watched that game when I got home from work last night. How bizarre, you would never have guessed that at half time Edinburgh were in the game and should have been in the lead. Yet you also always got the feeling that they were going to capitulate in the second half.

I have to say I did not see anything from CDP or Bradbury to suggest that they should be playing for Scotland next weekend, even accepting that it is hard to look good in a team that is being beaten badly. Both are good players but playing in a sloppy is not giving them the skills they need to play internationally. Both gave away stupid penalties and it looked at the end that the heads had dropped.

I hope Denton or Ashe play well!

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Post by RDW Sat 18 Feb 2017, 09:00

George Carlin wrote:Just saw that Maitland went off injured when Sarries lost to Gloucester at the weekend. 
What the feck was he doing playing?

Clubs are free to pick international players on non international weekends

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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 09:01

George Carlin wrote:Just saw that Maitland went off injured when Sarries lost to Gloucester at the weekend. 
What the feck was he doing playing?

I am just watching that game on record right now.

It is down to Sarries whether he plays or not on these weekends. He got called in late to cover Duncan Taylor who apparently is still not fit. So clearly he won't be playing next week if Dunbar not fit.

Hope it is nothing serious for Maitland, he was playing well at FB from what I have seen so far.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 18 Feb 2017, 09:25

I think that I need to clarify that I know clubs can choose their players outside international windows. 

It was a question more along the lines of "Why God, whyyyy?"
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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 09:28

Just seen the Maitland injury. It was very innocuous. He was running with the ball and twisted and seemed to pop a rib cartlidge, it was not even in any contact.

It did not look that serious, but whether it will be right for next week is anyone's guess.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 18 Feb 2017, 11:01

Edinburgh were an absolute shambles last night. Hodge as head coach isn't working, and I would be surprised if he is in that role next season. Listening to English commentary last night one of them said (in a non sarcastic way) that there was a lot Edinburgh could take from this game. I only hope the SRU aren't as delusional.

They need to find some focus, every player from 1-15 is playing below their potential. I really hope Cockerill get's appointed, I think he would bring a better ethos to the club.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 18 Feb 2017, 12:01

I watched the first half last night and then the voices in my head stopped telling me to, "Go to Orleans and drive the Anglais out of la belle France" and were replaced by two new voices.
The first, in a quivering, unconvincing east coast accent said, "Well done lads, we're creating space on the wings and once we actually start catching the ball I'm sure we'll run in a hatful of those five point thingies. So same again."
This was followed by an agricultural Irish brogue, " A very feccin funny lads... For about ten minutes you had me believin' you were actually tryin' there. Now you've had your fun now get out there and start playing rugby, or you'll all be watching the first 40 all day in the video suite on Monday."
At which point I couldn't really see any point in watching the inevitable Luvvie collapse.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 18 Feb 2017, 12:11

p.s. The Duc de Provence has started shouting at me. He's angry that I never asked if anyone has a link for this afternoon's game from The King's Pan. Oh, and do any of you have dry matches?

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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 15:59

Tough old second half coming up in Belfast. Glasgow got the wind now but is it worth 10 points?

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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 16:55

Another crazy afternoon spent watching Glasgow!

I need a long think about that one before I say anything else.

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Post by bsando Sat 18 Feb 2017, 17:01

Glasgow strength in depth is just a bit too sporadic this season. By which I mean the mixture of players during internationals hasn't worked as well as it has in the past.

Horne was pretty awful in the 2nd half, leaked ball and passed forwards too much. If the pass isn't on don't throw it!! But he was good running in attack. Clearly rusty.

Think any pro12 ambitions are slipping away but you never know, Europe is townsends big focus I suppose. Looking forward to the impact Rennie has next season.

Ulster looked great in attack, very well deserved victory by them.


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Post by BigGee Sat 18 Feb 2017, 17:30

The thing is, it was not all bad. There were some very good individual performances, Cummings in particular of the starters and I thought Bhatti and Vernon did really well when they came on. Brandon Thompson, looked pretty handy for a first run out as well.

It was just all way to loose. Horne had a curates egg of a game but I suppose you can forgive him for being rusty. Henry P still looks way short of confidence.

I don't see us making the playoffs now and that may not be a bad thing. It seems that it is going to be Europe or nothing for us. I saw nothing in the Saracens game yesterday to suggest that if we play well, we could not beat them.

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Post by BigGee Sun 19 Feb 2017, 20:57

The rumours of Cockerill going to Edinburgh are starting to gather a bit of pace.

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Post by Welly Sun 19 Feb 2017, 22:32

He won't be going to Edinburgh from what I have heard.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Mon 20 Feb 2017, 00:57

Why on earth would he want to go to a car crash like Edinburgh? Much better and richer teams would want him. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him but would be very pleasantly surprised if it happened

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Post by RDW Mon 20 Feb 2017, 09:07

Richard Cockerill has been announced as Edinburgh's next head coach

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Post by Welly Mon 20 Feb 2017, 09:08

Well I heard wrong Cockerill confirmed by Edinburgh.


Excellent signing for Edinburgh you need someone who doesn't take Poopie and builds aggression.

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Post by George Carlin Mon 20 Feb 2017, 09:19

Welly wrote: Well I heard wrong Cockerill confirmed by Edinburgh.


Excellent signing for Edinburgh you need someone who doesn't take Poopie and builds aggression.
Cockerill will be a smash hit in effete Edinburgh wine bars. Literally, most probably.
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Post by IanBru Mon 20 Feb 2017, 09:25

That's a really, really good bit of business for Edinburgh.
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Post by IanBru Mon 20 Feb 2017, 09:30

I've just thought - is Dunky Weir the most Cockerill stand-off in the league today? It's like a match made in heaven.
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