England vs Italy

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28 players that have been kept.

Forwards (16): Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Mike Williams (Leicester Tigers), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)

Backs (12): Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Jonny May (Gloucester), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Anthony Watson (Bath), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Monye normally talks dribble but why has Flatman started doing that as well?

England look like they are expecting a victory. Very loose and nowhere near the required intensity.

Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

Eddie needs to make an example of someone, take them off and drop them from the squad.

Early signs are England thought they were going to walk this. They have turned up for a training session.

I have been a huge fan of Mike Brown...but I think the time has come for him to move aside.

Think we need someone at the back there who can mix up their play...not just the predictable run it through a crowd of players.

Brown is an absolute pleb for not passing to May earlier about 5 mins ago.

GeordieFalcon wrote:I have been a huge fan of Mike Brown...but I think the time has come for him to move aside.

Think we need someone at the back there who can mix up their play...not just the predictable run it through a crowd of players.

Watson.

or Daly

Relax people. Plenty of time.

Take the 3 points

NOOOOOOOOOOO......

EnglishReign wrote:Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

If they'd got the first one though the whole game plays out differently from there ...

Italy should now offload Parisse to help improve their game longterm.

Clever tactic from Italy but Poite isn't reffing it well - there's been several rucks where he's called tackle only incorrectly

Heaf wrote:

EnglishReign wrote:Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

If they'd got the first one though the whole game plays out differently from there ...

True enough.

Good to see Cole running that try in for England.

Jones will hook Farrell at this rate

And Care

RDW_Scotland wrote:Clever tactic from Italy but Poite isn't reffing it well - there's been several rucks where he's called tackle only incorrectly

Indeed - they're fooling him too ..

Farrell should be taken off early doors I think

Surely an Italian knock on first?!

It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.

I still think we'll win by a large margin, there's just a lot of air in the system

Almost want Italy to score to wake us up.

Ruck formed ever time there yet the 9 is running round the back. F ing joke

TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.

Are they doing something illegal?

Poite is cutting them a lot of slack

This is utter dredge!!

SecretFly wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.

B
Are they doing something illegal?

Yes, but the Ref keeps missing the non tackling Italian player forming the ruck!

James Haskell : What can we do to make it a ruck?
Roman Poite : I don't know, I'm the referee, not your coach!

Priceless!!!

I've seen at least 3 rucks called as tackle only

Good points from Italy

Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time with a counter plan still though.

where do the laws say the players have to initiate the contact for a ruck - surely if an opposing player binds to you you're in the ruck?

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:James Haskell : What can we do to make it a ruck?
Roman Poite : I don't know, I'm the referee, not your coach!

Priceless!!!

Probably why he can't tell the difference.

TightHEAD wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.

B
Are they doing something illegal?

Yes, but the Ref keeps missing the non tackling Italian player forming the ruck!

If Danby Care can drop the gormless pointing routine at the tackle and starts getting the forwards to just pick and drive the centre of the tackle area where the Italians are light then you can make easy yards.

Even more Care could be looking for the box kick crossfield as the Italians aren't well stocked out wide.

How is anyone down injured?! F all is an exaggeration of what these lot have done so far.

We'll you've got to admit this is all a bit different.

I think Poite needs to remind himself what a ruck is at halftime!

mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

Italy are pulling England down to their level. This match is like two bald men fighting over a comb

GeordieFalcon wrote:

mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

The Saturn 6 will be lit in 300 seconds

GeordieFalcon wrote:

mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

The Saturn 6 will be lit in 300 seconds

George Ayoub has a strange interpretation of what standing still is

Why did Danny Care kick it???!!!!!!!!

Wake me up when the game starts...

ITV will be well pisssed

great kick

GeordieFalcon wrote:Why did Danny Care kick it???!!!!!!!!

Danny Care lost all composure 30 seconds into the game. He's been panicking ever since.

Is Poite not correct? If Italy only have one player making the tackle its not a ruck? It only becomes a ruck if the defence commits another player to the breakdown?

Best bet to get around it would be for the tackled player to pick the ball up and carry on.

I do think England will score a few tries late on. But my earlier prediction seems all too true right now