Silly Season Transfer Rumours 16/17

by stnick88 Tue 14 Feb 2017, 2:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

Gordon Reid is off to Irish.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri 16 Jun 2017, 8:33 am

Fekitoa to Toulon apparently

by king_carlos Fri 16 Jun 2017, 7:20 pm

Toulon are hot favourites to sign JP Pietersen as well.

They've lost a few back three players, and Vincent Clerc is 36, but have already signed Ashton and Hugo Bonneval. Semi Radradra switching codes with them too.

Boudjellal isn't renowned for putting squad balance ahead of a big name though...

by king_carlos Fri 16 Jun 2017, 7:27 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:Fekitoa to Toulon apparently

They've already signed Luke McAlister which you'd guess is their best effort at replacing Giteau as a second five-eighth.

Fekitoa, Nonu and Bastareaud would put a lot of money and power in the midfield. Toulon's slight renaissance this season came with Cockerill getting them to go back to a basic but very physical game plan. Those three centres would certainly bring that physicality.

Toulon still need to sort their front row out before worrying about anything else.

by mikey_dragon Fri 16 Jun 2017, 9:19 pm

king_carlos wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:If Halfpenny didn't kick for goal, what would his value be? I imagine not too much....

Safe as about any under the high ball, one of the best full backs around positionally, good tactical kicking game, strong tackler.

It seems a long time ago that he was an exciting winger with good footwork and pace to burn. That I'll agree! Sadly a mixture of injuries and conservative game plans seem to have stunted his growth as a running back three player. He is still a solid finisher when given chances though.

He's a much better player than many now give him credit for. His goal kicking isn't something to be dismissed either.

I'd be interested to see how moving back to wing affected his running play, I think it would be a positive move for him.

All that said I think he would need to take a significant pay cut to be a good investment for a Prem side. Especially when he'll be away for international windows.

by beshocked Mon 19 Jun 2017, 9:53 am

I don't think Pietersen would be much of a loss for Tigers IMO. Free up more of the cap though you need to spend some, not just get rid of players!

I'd laugh if Toulon do sign him up.

Ashton is a good signing for Toulon though. He's not a likable figure but as a finisher at club level I don't think there is anyone better.

Also defensively he's been protected in a good system.

Going to be tough to replace Ashton. Someone will need to fill the try gaps.

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 19 Jun 2017, 10:13 am

Finn Russell will have one more season at Glasgow before joining up with big VC at montpellier...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/glasgow-warriors/scotland-rugby-team-finn-russell-to-join-montpellier-1-4479364

by **LondonTiger** Mon 19 Jun 2017, 10:21 am

Interesting move for Russell. For Scotland (so long as he plays enough in France, but not too much) it could be a really good move, as right now they seem to be struggling to develop any back-up to him. This will free up a starting spot for someone to press their challenge.

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 19 Jun 2017, 10:34 am

LondonTiger wrote:Interesting move for Russell. For Scotland (so long as he plays enough in France, but not too much) it could be a really good move, as right now they seem to be struggling to develop any back-up to him. This will free up a starting spot for someone to press their challenge.

Adam Hastings immediatly springs to mind. He is currently playing at Glasgow and will have a chance to get some game time this season and get up to speed with how Rennie wants to play the game.

As for Russell he's got Aaron Cruden to learn from and compete with at Montpellier. So he'll obviously be in a great position to learn and develop from one of the best 10s in the world without getting flogged in the Top14.

by **George Carlin** Mon 19 Jun 2017, 10:36 am

LondonTiger wrote:Interesting move for Russell. For Scotland (so long as he plays enough in France, but not too much) it could be a really good move, as right now they seem to be struggling to develop any back-up to him. This will free up a starting spot for someone to press their challenge.

Yes. Step forward Adam Hastings. One season of prep and then it's all go!

by EST Mon 19 Jun 2017, 11:20 am

George Carlin wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:Interesting move for Russell. For Scotland (so long as he plays enough in France, but not too much) it could be a really good move, as right now they seem to be struggling to develop any back-up to him. This will free up a starting spot for someone to press their challenge.
Yes. Step forward Adam Hastings. One season of prep and then it's all go!

Could work really well, and just about perfect in terms of succession planning - albeit dependent on Hastings showing he has what it takes.

by Welly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 2:59 pm

Wonder if Glasgow will chase the Wasps Scottish U20 10 Eastgate?

Looked alright.

Also with Umaga getting all the press space for Wasps, Eastgate might be tempted to look elsewhere.

by EWT Spoons Mon 19 Jun 2017, 3:39 pm

Welly wrote:Wonder if Glasgow will chase the Wasps Scottish U20 10 Eastgate?

Looked alright.

Also with Umaga getting all the press space for Wasps, Eastgate might be tempted to look elsewhere.

I think with Hastings being no.2 next season and potentially no.1 the season after, it might not make a huge amount of sense to sign up another young 10, given Hastings is only 21. If the SRU want Eastgate to get game time then Edinburgh would make far more sense, because if he can put his boots on the right feet and has some ability then he's the equal of or better than our current options at standoff.

by **BigGee** Mon 19 Jun 2017, 3:42 pm

Welly wrote:Wonder if Glasgow will chase the Wasps Scottish U20 10 Eastgate?

Looked alright.

Also with Umaga getting all the press space for Wasps, Eastgate might be tempted to look elsewhere.

Probably be a decent career move for him to go to either of the Scottish Pro clubs, as both are light on FHs. It will always be hard for a young FH to break into a club like Wasps, who already have some pretty decent options and the cheque book to add to them if required. Eastgate had a very decent JWC and Scottish fans will be very interested in his development.

by EWT Spoons Mon 19 Jun 2017, 3:46 pm

BigGee wrote:
Welly wrote:Wonder if Glasgow will chase the Wasps Scottish U20 10 Eastgate?

Looked alright.

Also with Umaga getting all the press space for Wasps, Eastgate might be tempted to look elsewhere.

Probably be a decent career move for him to go to either of the Scottish Pro clubs, as both are light on FHs. It will always be hard for a young FH to break into a club like Wasps, who already have some pretty decent options and the cheque book to add to them if required. Eastgate had a very decent JWC and Scottish fans will be very interested in his development.

Hands off BigGee I've claimed him for Edinburgh already! Very Happy

by Welly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 4:36 pm

JP Pieterson confirmed as leaving Tigers.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 5:23 pm

No real loss Welly?

by Welly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 5:39 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:No real loss Welly?

I think it shouldn't be hard to replace him.

by Welly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 5:44 pm

Certainly think so Tigers fans are going OTT about it.

Although i seem to be in the minority that thought Mauger had to go and couldn't handle top of the tier NH rugby.

by **George Carlin** Mon 19 Jun 2017, 5:56 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:
Welly wrote:Wonder if Glasgow will chase the Wasps Scottish U20 10 Eastgate?

Looked alright.

Also with Umaga getting all the press space for Wasps, Eastgate might be tempted to look elsewhere.

I think with Hastings being no.2 next season and potentially no.1 the season after, it might not make a huge amount of sense to sign up another young 10, given Hastings is only 21. If the SRU want Eastgate to get game time then Edinburgh would make far more sense, because if he can put his boots on the right feet and has some ability then he's the equal of or better than our current options at standoff.

More to the point, Eastgate will feel really talented after a fortnight of watching Duncan Weir throw intercept passes.

by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Jun 2017, 8:19 pm

Welly wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:No real loss Welly?

I think it shouldn't be hard to replace him.

Either a juggernaut or a speed merchant. Shouldn't be to hard to find. If it's someone with a bit of versatility even better. JPP Was only ever good he never wowed and must have been on a good deal of cash.

by Welly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 8:30 pm

speedster for me, in the Jonny May mould of just being rapid.

by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Jun 2017, 10:33 pm

Welly wrote: speedster for me, in the Jonny May mould of just being rapid.

Yep. Though I was hoping Holmes would offer us try scoring speed out wide it never hurts to have loads of speed in the back three. There's some yoing guys around who we've been linked with who I'd be happy if we signed (Earle, Morris someone like that). They'd be considerably cheaper and free up some cap for the other additions we need.

by yappysnap Tue 20 Jun 2017, 8:07 am

Sale sign James O'Connor, he's not the superstar he was, and hadn't fulfilled his massive potential. But still that's impressive!

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 20 Jun 2017, 8:47 am

Zac Guildford signs an NPC contract with Waikato. On the comeback trail.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Jun 2017, 9:08 am

yappysnap wrote:Sale sign James O'Connor, he's not the superstar he was, and hadn't fulfilled his massive potential. But still that's impressive!

Potentially a great signing. Diamond got Cips firing again. If O'Connor goes the same way then he'll be a phenomenal signing. If it's not working then McGinty can be solid and Sale can grind out wins. As long as they reinforce their tight five.

by Welly Tue 20 Jun 2017, 9:18 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:Zac Guildford signs an NPC contract with Waikato. On the comeback trail.

Good for him.

Always been a big fan of his despite his troubles.

Should never have gone to Clermont.

by bsando Tue 20 Jun 2017, 12:11 pm

O'CONNOR to Sale, very impressive! nice team coming together there.

by Welly Tue 20 Jun 2017, 1:44 pm

That relies on JOC taking his head out of his arse.

Honestly think they have signed too many back rowers not enough quality Tight 5 players.

The pack looks extremely lightweight to me.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Jun 2017, 3:24 pm

Welly wrote: That relies on JOC taking his head out of his arse.

Honestly think they have signed too many back rowers not enough quality Tight 5 players.

The pack looks extremely lightweight to me.

Diamond forcibly removed Cipriani's head in a similar circumstance.

I think the backrow signings will help them. Ross and Strauss will give them go forward they badly need particularly combining with de Klerk. Agree with you though, they need some big and horrible front five players to get the set pieces and toght game going or they'll not have the possession to make the most of these signings.

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 20 Jun 2017, 3:35 pm

Gareth Owen going to Leicester.

by Welly Tue 20 Jun 2017, 3:37 pm

Beaten by ScarletSpiderman

Squad signing by the looks of it.

Needed as we only have 3/4 centres 2 of which have pretty bad injury record.

by ScarletSpiderman Tue 20 Jun 2017, 3:45 pm

Welly wrote:Beaten by ScarletSpiderman

Squad signing by the looks of it.

Needed as we only have 3/4 centres 2 of which have pretty bad injury record.

He has had his share of injury issues, but a good squad filler, and I think he has played everywhere from 10-15.

by Welly Tue 20 Jun 2017, 3:52 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
Welly wrote:Beaten by ScarletSpiderman

Squad signing by the looks of it.

Needed as we only have 3/4 centres 2 of which have pretty bad injury record.

He has had his share of injury issues, but a good squad filler, and I think he has played everywhere from 10-15.

I don't mind a bit of an injury record if they are not expected to be 23 players.

When you look at the squad on the whole we needed to sign a senior LV cup/A league type player IMO who if needs be can hold the fort during internationals.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Jun 2017, 6:47 pm

An experienced utility player was needed for a squad role so it's a decent signing. Hopefully a couple more to follow.

by Bathite Wed 21 Jun 2017, 1:23 pm

Saili confirmed to Quins. Great signing. A bit gutted, hoped we'd sneak in for him.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 21 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm

Bathite wrote:Saili confirmed to Quins. Great signing. A bit gutted, hoped we'd sneak in for him.

Good signing. Roberts and Saili is a physical and experienced midfield.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 21 Jun 2017, 1:42 pm

James Phillips signs one year deal at Bath from Bristol. Lock and backrow option, bit of squad filler.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 21 Jun 2017, 1:44 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Bathite wrote:Saili confirmed to Quins. Great signing. A bit gutted, hoped we'd sneak in for him.

Good signing. Roberts and Saili is a physical and experienced midfield.

I thought Saili was replacing Roberts?

by formerly known as Sam Wed 21 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
Bathite wrote:Saili confirmed to Quins. Great signing. A bit gutted, hoped we'd sneak in for him.

Good signing. Roberts and Saili is a physical and experienced midfield.

I thought Saili was replacing Roberts?

Could be. Where's he off to now? I thought he had one year left.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 21 Jun 2017, 4:46 pm

When the Saili to Quins rumours surfaced 5 or 6 weeks ago, mention was made that Doc would be leaving - however seen nothing about that since.

by Bathite Wed 21 Jun 2017, 6:11 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:James Phillips signs one year deal at Bath from Bristol. Lock and backrow option, bit of squad filler.

Yep. Mainly cover for Tom Ellis who is already out for the season with a knee injury.

by yappysnap Sat 24 Jun 2017, 7:14 pm

Seems a bit late for him to leave Quins, think Saili is probably taking Evans spot as we aren't getting a big name 10

by ChequeredJersey Sun 25 Jun 2017, 2:40 pm

Saili a good signing for us,I think. Still could do with a 10/15 (McKenzie would be my dream pick!) and some more heft in pack esp second row

by formerly known as Sam Sun 25 Jun 2017, 4:20 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Saili a good signing for us,I think. Still could do with a 10/15 (McKenzie would be my dream pick!) and some more heft in pack esp second row

Sweil and Jackson are under contact aren't they? Both play 10 and 15.

by yappysnap Mon 26 Jun 2017, 8:55 am

Just seen that Midi in France is reporting R Jackson is off to Agen, so perhaps we're letting him go early?

by yappysnap Mon 26 Jun 2017, 8:56 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Saili a good signing for us,I think. Still could do with a 10/15 (McKenzie would be my dream pick!) and some more heft in pack esp second row

Mckenzie would be amazing but sadly can't see it happening. Another lock and a better hooker would both be useful too.

by **LondonTiger** Mon 26 Jun 2017, 9:15 am

Funny that just 3 years ago Quins had three hookers in and around the England squad. Now admittedly Dave Ward was merely in a purple patch, and was at a stage in his career where he had reached his ceiling - but there must have been hope that at least one of Gray or Buchanan would have really kicked on.

by king_carlos Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:40 am

There was hope from more than just Quins fans about Gray and Buchanan to be fair. Once upon a time quite a few thought that Gray could be the solid set-piece hooker with some attacking game and that Buchanan had the sort of aggression England were missing at hooker.

by yappysnap Mon 26 Jun 2017, 1:24 pm

Sadly I think we're resigned to them just being good club players now. Grey seems to have gone backwards and Buchanan while physical is pants at throwing. Wards becoming more of a 7 now as well

by Fluxy Mon 26 Jun 2017, 1:33 pm

Fekitoa to Toulon seems like it will be confirmed tomorrow.

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