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Post by catchweight Thu 23 Feb 2017, 9:11 pm

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Looks like the Pacquiao and Khan teams are in negotitaions to set up a major might beteen the two which could happen in the Emirates. Pacquiao publically announced he expects Khan to be his next opponent with Khan tweeting the are in negotitions. Pacquiao's team have been exploring a cash rich fight in the U.A.E for a number of years and Khan would be an obvious opponent with his Muslim background and heritage.

This could be a really good series of fights for the division with Brook v Spence and Thurman v Garcia also set to happen. Heres hoping the all come off without any hitches.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 9:49 am

Khan's career seems based on his team's inability to gauge his market value.....

Never seems to be any direction either.........

It's a shame because I can see him beating Brook...Can see him losing that fight too...

But Spence is going to have a go now instead......That is a 50/50 with that eye.....Manny v Khan is an interesting fight but it isn't a huge one between two guys that lost their last really high profile fights...

Khan still has time........But not too much of it.

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 11:04 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan's career seems based on his team's inability to gauge his market value.....

Never seems to be any direction either.........

It's a shame because I can see him beating Brook...Can see him losing that fight too...

But Spence is going to have a go now instead......That is a 50/50 with that eye.....Manny v Khan is an interesting fight but it isn't a huge one between two guys that lost their last really high profile fights...

Khan still has time........But not too much of it.

Pretty much spot on with that Truss.

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Post by melv500 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 11:59 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan's career seems based on his team's inability to gauge his market value.....

Never seems to be any direction either.........

It's a shame because I can see him beating Brook...Can see him losing that fight too...

But Spence is going to have a go now instead......That is a 50/50 with that eye.....Manny v Khan is an interesting fight but it isn't a huge one between two guys that lost their last really high profile fights...

Khan still has time........But not too much of it.

Will be interesting to see what hapens now he sacked a load of his team which was basically his family. Hopefully they were the ones giving him delusions of grandeur and the new team will keep his feet on the ground (I am sure there is a chin joke in there somewhere).....

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 08 Mar 2017, 3:10 pm

You got to chuckle the way Khan acts superior to Brook when he knows Kell gives him a hiding

Pleased it's not happening a guy flattened in his last fight fighting for a world title doesn't sit well with most boxing fans I think wouldn't have happened in the old days I give Khan literally a zero chance of beating Manny either the guy needs to earn a big fight imo just lose to Brook and be done did very well out of the game for an average talent

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 08 Mar 2017, 3:12 pm

It happened in the old days all the time and to an even worse degree, a quick look at some of the utter dross Armstrong fought at Welterweight highlights that.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 3:31 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:You got to chuckle the way Khan acts superior to Brook when he knows Kell gives him a hiding

You know that do you ??........

Can you give us the rest of the conversation you had with Amir ??

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 08 Mar 2017, 3:50 pm

Why don't you just admit you've overrated Khan for years, Truss?

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 08 Mar 2017, 3:57 pm

Why the hate for Khan (and no i don't buy the race thing). Okay he's wasted a lot of his career chasing a fight with Floyd but can't see how you can give him cr*p for wanting to face Manny, it's a massive payday and if he does win (Manny's nowhere near his top level these days) it's a big boost.

Plus would you rather see Khan or Horn?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 4:00 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Why don't you just admit you've overrated Khan for years, Truss?

He's been disappointing but why say he knows he's getting leathered off Brook....

Confidence has never been a problem for the kid.......Too much confidence has..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 08 Mar 2017, 4:07 pm

I've never seen any of this confidence when it comes to fighting Kell Brook

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 08 Mar 2017, 5:38 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:I've never seen any of this confidence when it comes to fighting Kell Brook

You didn't see any confidence before Ward signed to fight Kovo and Mayweather v Manny either if memory serves correctly....

Fighters you do like have huge balls though....... thumbsup

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 08 Mar 2017, 5:52 pm

I didn't realise you followed my contributions so closely

Wish I could say I was flattered...

But please explain why you're so offended that I think Brook will batter Kahn and so offended that I think Kahn has been ducking Brook for years

Incidentally Kahn will never fight Brook and Canelo won't be fighting GGG in 2017

The conmen need to be called out, that is all

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Post by Herman Jaeger Thu 09 Mar 2017, 11:58 am

Everyone stateside very high on Spence his fellow professionals virtually to the man predicting a Spence win this will be a huge win for Brook and propel him into the big league

A more interesting fight this one than Thurman Garcia for me, a huge fight in the career of Kell Brook

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Post by Baby faced assassin Thu 09 Mar 2017, 1:41 pm

Thurman and Garcia have shown weaknesses, as yet Spence has not although he hasn't fought at the level of the other 2

While I think the Khan-Manny fight would've been entertaining and 50/50 the reason I don't want it is Pacquiao shouldn't be in a f8ght where he can lose, as in his prime he would've wasted khan inside 3 rounds

He needs to retire with a win, don't want to see him lose against some prospect or B level opponent due to age
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Post by Jermaine2015 Thu 09 Mar 2017, 1:43 pm

Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 09 Mar 2017, 1:53 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

Damaged goods? Because of one fight at 160? If anyone is damaged goods its Khan.

Knocked out cold by Canelo, stopped by Garcia, knocked out cold by Prescott.....dropped multiple times...been in some hard hard fights (Maidana, Peterson).........Brook has beaten everyone handily apart from Porter.

Not sure what your on about

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Post by Jermaine2015 Thu 09 Mar 2017, 2:02 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

Damaged goods? Because of one fight at 160? If anyone is damaged goods its Khan.

Knocked out cold by Canelo, stopped by Garcia, knocked out cold by Prescott.....dropped multiple times...been in some hard hard fights (Maidana, Peterson).........Brook has beaten everyone handily apart from Porter.

Not sure what your on about
Brook has fought dross for the majority of his career. Only reputable win is Porter and that's after a decade long career.

So you think a broken eye socket isn't a severe injury?

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Post by Rodney Thu 09 Mar 2017, 2:03 pm

Wouldn't call Brook damaged goods but I do get the feeling we seem to over estimate his abilities over these shores. Brook as a professional has been campaigning a long time and has only beaten one guy in the top 15 and that was Porter in a scrappy horrible contest. He had a flurry against GGG but lets be honest he took a pasting - I'll reserve my judgement on him until he proves himself beaten some top opposition.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 09 Mar 2017, 2:24 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

Damaged goods? Because of one fight at 160? If anyone is damaged goods its Khan.

Knocked out cold by Canelo, stopped by Garcia, knocked out cold by Prescott.....dropped multiple times...been in some hard hard fights (Maidana, Peterson).........Brook has beaten everyone handily apart from Porter.

Not sure what your on about
Brook has fought dross for the majority of his career. Only reputable win is Porter and that's after a decade long career.

So you think a broken eye socket isn't a severe injury?

An injury yes. Not damaged goods.

He hasnt been in many tough fights, stopped on multiple occasions with limited activity.

Soon as Khan gets touched its game over. Brook is a sound boxer and has great timing. Brook via late stoppage for me.

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Post by AdamT Thu 09 Mar 2017, 3:01 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Why don't you just admit you've overrated Khan for years, Truss?

Massive understatement.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:06 pm

Thurman to fight Brook/Spence winner end this year, Manny to fight winner of Thurman-Brook/Spence beginning of next year would be the ideal scenario

But does Manny want meaningful fights now or just looking to cash out?

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he takes on a meaningful fight or two before he's done he's a real fighter unlike Floyd

Would Manny against Crawford be a good fight end this year?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:14 pm

Rios,  Algieri, Vargas and Bradley for a third time isn't opposition to write home about.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Thu 09 Mar 2017, 7:20 pm

Winner of Porter/Berto becomes Keith's mandatory so he may well prefer that end this year marinate Thurman/Brook/Spence for early next year

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Post by Herman Jaeger Thu 09 Mar 2017, 9:01 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Rios,  Algieri, Vargas and Bradley for a third time isn't opposition to write home about.

Agreed

To be honest I don't think Manny will ever fight a top class welterweight again, I don't think Manny will go down in history as a great welterweight either if you notice the last few years Floyd and Manny between them dominated weltweight but neither of them actually beat a prime top class welterweight

I think Manny will concentrate on light welters from now on your Crawfords and Broners etc


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 09 Mar 2017, 9:48 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

Damaged goods? Because of one fight at 160? If anyone is damaged goods its Khan.

Knocked out cold by Canelo, stopped by Garcia, knocked out cold by Prescott.....dropped multiple times...been in some hard hard fights (Maidana, Peterson).........Brook has beaten everyone handily apart from Porter.

Not sure what your on about
Brook has fought dross for the majority of his career. Only reputable win is Porter and that's after a decade long career.

So you think a broken eye socket isn't a severe injury?

An injury yes. Not damaged goods.

He hasnt been in many tough fights, stopped on multiple occasions with limited activity.

Soon as Khan gets touched its game over. Brook is a sound boxer and has great timing. Brook via late stoppage for me.

Stopped twice in nearly nine years........ Two huge shots...........

Maidana....Malignaggi....Alexander...........All touched him........and it wasn't over.

Just garbage...

Brook - Evens..............Khan 5/4.............Definite formality with those odds.

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Post by AdamT Fri 10 Mar 2017, 10:44 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:Where's the belief that 'Brook batters Khan' come from? Brook is damaged goods these days. And whilst Khan isn't a power puncher in pretty sure if they ever fought he'd be aiming 90% of his shots at Brook's surgically repair eye socket. And it's worth remembering that khan's been drilled 3 times yet he's never been severely injured like Brook has been.

Damaged goods? Because of one fight at 160? If anyone is damaged goods its Khan.

Knocked out cold by Canelo, stopped by Garcia, knocked out cold by Prescott.....dropped multiple times...been in some hard hard fights (Maidana, Peterson).........Brook has beaten everyone handily apart from Porter.

Not sure what your on about
Brook has fought dross for the majority of his career. Only reputable win is Porter and that's after a decade long career.

So you think a broken eye socket isn't a severe injury?

An injury yes. Not damaged goods.

He hasnt been in many tough fights, stopped on multiple occasions with limited activity.

Soon as Khan gets touched its game over. Brook is a sound boxer and has great timing. Brook via late stoppage for me.

Stopped twice in nearly nine years........ Two huge shots...........

Maidana....Malignaggi....Alexander...........All touched him........and it wasn't over.

Just garbage...

Brook - Evens..............Khan 5/4.............Definite formality with those odds.

You do really overrate him mate. Perhaps I have underrated him too, but you definitely rate him high.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 10 Mar 2017, 12:24 pm

Not saying your wrong Truss - but Malignaggi is no puncher. Maidana had him on queer street and had that shot landed in the 1st it would have been game over. Alexander had stopped how many top contenders?

Baring in mind he has been dropped multiple times, some by non-punchers. Wobbled by Algieri and caught flush.

Sorry Truss, but you can box beautifully all day long...which Khan CAN....he just CANT keep it up for 12 rounds and loses concentration.

Brook will land, wobble, and finish.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Mar 2017, 5:38 pm

The fight's off,right..?Anyone heard for sure,one way or the other?Sounds like it's called off.

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Post by Dylan1979 Tue 14 Mar 2017, 10:39 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

This one's for you Hammy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRU-NxNFXE

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 15 Mar 2017, 12:34 pm

The point of that being what?

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Post by Guest82 Wed 15 Mar 2017, 12:40 pm

andygf wrote:The fight's off,right..?Anyone heard for sure,one way or the other?Sounds like it's called off.

Eddie Hearn called this on Twitter when the fight was announced. Said he had been told that the money wasn't there for it.

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