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6N 2017: England vs Scotland
First topic message reminder :
ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 10th March
16:00 GMT
Twickenham Stadium
Live on ITV, RTE, FR2, DMAX
Referee - Matthieu Raynal
AR1 - Romain Poite
AR2 - Marius Mitrea
TMO - Ben Skeen
A. Head to Head
134 Played 134
74 Won 42
18 Drawn 18
42 Lost 74
1,562 Points 1,141
B. Recent Form
6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England
14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England
8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England
2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England
4 February 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
6 – 13 to England
C. Teams
ENGLAND
Starting XV:
15. Mike Brown (vice captain, Harlequins, 58 caps), 14. Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps), 13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 31 caps), 12. Owen Farrell (vice captain, Saracens, 50 caps), 11. Elliot Daly (Wasps, 11 caps), 10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 33 caps), 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 68 caps), 1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 49 caps), 2. Dylan Hartley (captain, Northampton Saints, 82 caps), 3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 72 caps), 4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 40 caps) , 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 56 caps), 6. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 10 caps), 7. James Haskell (Wasps, 73 caps) , 8. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 6 caps).
Finishers
16. Jamie George (Saracens, 15 caps), 17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 40 caps), 18. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 6 caps), 19. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 48 caps), 20. Billy Vunipola (vice captain, Saracens 32 caps), 21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 69 caps), 22. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps), 23. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 24 caps).
SCOTLAND
Starting XV
15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 51 caps; 16 tries, 3 pens, 89 points
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 15 tries, 75 points
13. Huw Jones (Stormers) – 6 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 29 caps; 12 tries, 60 points
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 5 cons, 8 pens, 44 points
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 3 caps
1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
2. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 23 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse) – 63 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 31 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
6. John Barclay CAPTAIN (Scarlets) – 58 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps; 1 try, 5 points
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps
Substitutes:
16. Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 105 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17. Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – 6 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap
19. Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 27 caps; 1 try, 5 points
20. Cornell Du Preez (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
21. Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 4 tries, 3 pens, 29 points
22. Duncan Weir (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 7 cons, 10 pens, 1 drop, 57 points
23. Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 10th March
16:00 GMT
Twickenham Stadium
Live on ITV, RTE, FR2, DMAX
Referee - Matthieu Raynal
AR1 - Romain Poite
AR2 - Marius Mitrea
TMO - Ben Skeen
A. Head to Head
134 Played 134
74 Won 42
18 Drawn 18
42 Lost 74
1,562 Points 1,141
B. Recent Form
6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England
14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England
8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England
2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England
4 February 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
6 – 13 to England
C. Teams
ENGLAND
Starting XV:
15. Mike Brown (vice captain, Harlequins, 58 caps), 14. Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps), 13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 31 caps), 12. Owen Farrell (vice captain, Saracens, 50 caps), 11. Elliot Daly (Wasps, 11 caps), 10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 33 caps), 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 68 caps), 1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 49 caps), 2. Dylan Hartley (captain, Northampton Saints, 82 caps), 3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 72 caps), 4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 40 caps) , 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 56 caps), 6. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 10 caps), 7. James Haskell (Wasps, 73 caps) , 8. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 6 caps).
Finishers
16. Jamie George (Saracens, 15 caps), 17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 40 caps), 18. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 6 caps), 19. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 48 caps), 20. Billy Vunipola (vice captain, Saracens 32 caps), 21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 69 caps), 22. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps), 23. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 24 caps).
SCOTLAND
Starting XV
15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 51 caps; 16 tries, 3 pens, 89 points
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 15 tries, 75 points
13. Huw Jones (Stormers) – 6 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 29 caps; 12 tries, 60 points
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 5 cons, 8 pens, 44 points
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 3 caps
1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
2. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 23 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse) – 63 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 31 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
6. John Barclay CAPTAIN (Scarlets) – 58 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps; 1 try, 5 points
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps
Substitutes:
16. Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 105 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17. Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – 6 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap
19. Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 27 caps; 1 try, 5 points
20. Cornell Du Preez (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
21. Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 4 tries, 3 pens, 29 points
22. Duncan Weir (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 7 cons, 10 pens, 1 drop, 57 points
23. Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
beshocked wrote:Sgt Poorly sigh nothing interesting to say, surprise surprise. Yet again no mention of rugby.
Okay I'll change it myself - is anyone going to put some bets on the game?
Perhaps first try scorer or man of the match? Would be good to beat the bookies.
Hogg had scored 1st in the last 2 6N games. So against Wales at home I thought at 17-1 thats a good bet. I stuck 20 sheets on him to do so and that bloody Williams scored the 1st try.
I'll repeat that bet this weekend. England will probably be putting boot to ball for a decent portion of the 1st half, Hogg and Seymour at lethal on the counter so it's worth another 20 if the odds are similar...
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Scottrf wrote:Scotland first half, England full time.beshocked wrote:Sgt Poorly sigh nothing interesting to say, surprise surprise. Yet again no mention of rugby.
Okay I'll change it myself - is anyone going to put some bets on the game?
Perhaps first try scorer or man of the match? Would be good to beat the bookies.
Good shout but can't imagine the odds will be good on that.
If it's 5-1 or more might be worth a punt though.
Good luck ruggerradge.
Could work well with Scottrf's bet.
Scotland to score through Hogg first, Scotland leading at half time.
Makes a loss easier if you win some money.
Odds on Billy to score from bench could be interesting.
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You're lucky, we get a broken record still incorrectly quoting posters from 2 years ago. It never gets tedious, honest.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
The one and only bet I've ever placed in my life was at the age of 11 with my friend at school: 50 pence on Scotland winning the Calcutta Cup.beshocked wrote:Sgt Poorly sigh nothing interesting to say, surprise surprise. Yet again no mention of rugby.
Okay I'll change it myself - is anyone going to put some bets on the game?
Perhaps first try scorer or man of the match? Would be good to beat the bookies.
My 100% winning record is still intact.
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9/1. Might try another with Hogg FTS.beshocked wrote:Good shout but can't imagine the odds will be good on that.
If it's 5-1 or more might be worth a punt though.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:jimbopip wrote:beshocked wrote:Sgt Poorly says the person whose last 2 posts that have nothing to do with rugby...
Go on then - say something interesting for once. Change the subject to something more interesting.
What is this?
We never, ever, encounter nonsense like this on the Glasgow-Luvvies banter threads. Mind you we have the dyslexic Admin Boy on there keeping us in line.
What is this?
I'll tell you exactly what it is. It is YOU using the quotation button correctly. Keep it up Jimbo
For the life of me, I'm actually sitting here trying to think of a witty way to mess up this quote.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
Man of the match might be good too.
Launchbury has had a lot of love so far.
J.Gray unlikely because even though he does a lot, doesn't seem to get noticed.
Topped the tackle count against Ireland by some distance but Hogg took the award with his 2 tries.
Regardless of the result, I want as many people as possible to beat the bookies.
Launchbury has had a lot of love so far.
J.Gray unlikely because even though he does a lot, doesn't seem to get noticed.
Topped the tackle count against Ireland by some distance but Hogg took the award with his 2 tries.
Regardless of the result, I want as many people as possible to beat the bookies.
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beshocked wrote:Man of the match might be good too.
Launchbury has had a lot of love so far.
J.Gray unlikely because even though he does a lot, doesn't seem to get noticed.
Topped the tackle count against Ireland by some distance but Hogg took the award with his 2 tries.
Regardless of the result, I want as many people as possible to beat the bookies.
Hogg is your classic MOTM award thief. He can be quiet for 60 minutes and then explode over the line for a couple of tries or bang over three points from within his own half, and suddenly the commentary crew start to dribble sweet nothings down the microphone. He must really annoy the workhorses in the team, like J Gray, Barclay and Dunbar, who would undoubtedly have had a few more mentions were it not for Hogg's grandstanding efforts!
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Do those guys give a monkey's about MOTM awards? Now players are so analysed, GPS tracked etc, I'm pretty sure MOTM matters to them about as much as Brian Moore or Jiffy's analysis or Eddie Butler getting their name right.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
funnyExiledScot wrote:beshocked wrote:Man of the match might be good too.
Launchbury has had a lot of love so far.
J.Gray unlikely because even though he does a lot, doesn't seem to get noticed.
Topped the tackle count against Ireland by some distance but Hogg took the award with his 2 tries.
Regardless of the result, I want as many people as possible to beat the bookies.
Hogg is your classic MOTM award thief. He can be quiet for 60 minutes and then explode over the line for a couple of tries or bang over three points from within his own half, and suddenly the commentary crew start to dribble sweet nothings down the microphone. He must really annoy the workhorses in the team, like J Gray, Barclay and Dunbar, who would undoubtedly have had a few more mentions were it not for Hogg's grandstanding efforts!
It's why I think Hogg's name is appropriate... good player though.
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nickj wrote:Do those guys give a monkey's about MOTM awards? Now players are so analysed, GPS tracked etc, I'm pretty sure MOTM matters to them about as much as Brian Moore or Jiffy's analysis or Eddie Butler getting their name right.
Quite true. In fact, listening to Jonny Gray being interviewed, I suspect he'd rather not be noticed at all!
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MOTM awards matter if you are trying to win some money though.
Best to try and gravitate towards media darlings.
Launchbury seems to be high up the list, one eye catching carry vs Italy was seemingly enough. Showed it a few times to just hammer home the point.
Media darlings in this game -
Farrell
Itoje
Launchbury
Youngs (hasn't been in form for a while but the media love him when he plays well)
Hogg
Russell
Best to try and gravitate towards media darlings.
Launchbury seems to be high up the list, one eye catching carry vs Italy was seemingly enough. Showed it a few times to just hammer home the point.
Media darlings in this game -
Farrell
Itoje
Launchbury
Youngs (hasn't been in form for a while but the media love him when he plays well)
Hogg
Russell
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Exactly, congratulations you've won a bottle of Asti Spumante and an interview you could do without, now smile for a selfie with BT Droitwich's employee of the month
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beshocked wrote:MOTM awards matter if you are trying to win some money though.
Best to try and gravitate towards media darlings.
Launchbury seems to be high up the list, one eye catching carry vs Italy was seemingly enough. Showed it a few times to just hammer home the point.
Media darlings in this game -
Farrell
Itoje
Launchbury
Youngs (hasn't been in form for a while but the media love him when he plays well)
Hogg
Russell
You forgot Jonny Wilkinson. Remember that Inverdale will be hosting this on the Beeb.
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True FES and we get to see the return of Clive.... sigh...
Think this game will be on ITV.
Think this game will be on ITV.
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Itoje will be the man of the match. Even if his leg falls off 10 minutes before the start.
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Urgh Clive, I can't stand that man. Johnny Wilkinson and Dayglow are pretty good though.
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RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Urgh Clive, I can't stand that man. Johnny Wilkinson and Dayglow are pretty good though.
Agreed. I don't rate Woodward as a pundit. Didn't like his book and don't enjoy his newspaper columns either. Don't know why, but I can't stand him. Probably due to his post-2003 endeavours. Left England in the lurch a bit with an aging team he didn't rebuild, led a poor Lions tour then messed about in football for a year. He did well in his Olympics role by all accounts, but not sure how relevant his opinion is on rugby now, he hasn't been involved with the game for 12 years.
Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland
Nathan Hughes owes England a big performance...especially pushed on with the fact Billy V is hovering again....
I fancy Farrell for MOTM. Poor outing last weekend, both him individually and the whole team. The media poking fun at them will not have gone down well with him (nor Haskell to be fair) ....I think he'll hit 20 points + from the Tee.
I fancy Farrell for MOTM. Poor outing last weekend, both him individually and the whole team. The media poking fun at them will not have gone down well with him (nor Haskell to be fair) ....I think he'll hit 20 points + from the Tee.
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Good to see Nathan Hines getting our mind games retaliation in after Eddie Jones claimed that we would have to cope with the 'expectation of a nation' for the 2 weeks after the Wales game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
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beshocked wrote:MOTM awards matter if you are trying to win some money though.
Best to try and gravitate towards media darlings.
Launchbury seems to be high up the list, one eye catching carry vs Italy was seemingly enough. Showed it a few times to just hammer home the point.
Media darlings in this game -
Farrell
Itoje
Launchbury
Youngs (hasn't been in form for a while but the media love him when he plays well)
Hogg
Russell
Maybe they see more in Launchbury's performance than one eye catching carry. You never know with this rugby thing, maybe there are other skills that are useful apart from eye catching carries...
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Probably a fair point that. The pressure of being in a winning team and people chasing you is not something we can say England have much experience of. Think this team is still developing though and we've come through a time of lots of disruption pretty well. Can't wait until the weekend should be a great game.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to see Nathan Hines getting our mind games retaliation in after Eddie Jones claimed that we would have to cope with the 'expectation of a nation' for the 2 weeks after the Wales game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
Nice to be reminded of us winning two Calcutta Cups during those bleak years.
Hines was an animal back then.
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It is hilarious to actually say that the expectation is greater for Scotland.RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to see Nathan Hines getting our mind games retaliation in after Eddie Jones claimed that we would have to cope with the 'expectation of a nation' for the 2 weeks after the Wales game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
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George Carlin wrote:It is hilarious to actually say that the expectation is greater for Scotland.RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to see Nathan Hines getting our mind games retaliation in after Eddie Jones claimed that we would have to cope with the 'expectation of a nation' for the 2 weeks after the Wales game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
The other question I have from the article is what's a resource coach? Sounds a bit like that cowpat job we created at Edinburgh for Ben Atiga.
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So, are we welsh Friday night then?
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funnyExiledScot wrote:George Carlin wrote:It is hilarious to actually say that the expectation is greater for Scotland.RDW_Scotland wrote:Good to see Nathan Hines getting our mind games retaliation in after Eddie Jones claimed that we would have to cope with the 'expectation of a nation' for the 2 weeks after the Wales game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39187809
The other question I have from the article is what's a resource coach? Sounds a bit like that cowpat job we created at Edinburgh for Ben Atiga.
Nah he was given the job of helping foreign players settle in Scotland.....whatever that involves!
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Rugbyjk wrote:So, are we welsh Friday night then?
I honestly don't care. I just want Scotland to beat England and stuff Italy.
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I think Launchbury gets the MOTM awards because he does a lot of the grunt work in the England pack. Cole gets lauded for the occasional turnover, Lawes for his one big tackle a game, but Launchbury does a lot of the graft that isn’t showy. He got slated by a few people on this board after the France game for looking tired and unfit when he was subbed. It was more of the fact that he had had to really put in a shift in the tight against a monster French pack, than being unfit/off form. When you add in his cover tackling and consistent ball carrying, that’s why ex-players rate him.
It is the same with Jonny Gray, he doesn’t win the MOTM awards but is a massive part of the Scottish performance.
I have also been surprised also by the criticism that has been made towards Nathan Hughes. He has been towards the top of the carries, metres made and tackles completed in all the games for England so far. Ok he hasn’t reach the highs that Billy did last year, but it took Billy time to have this impact at international level and Hughes will I am sure only get better with experience.
I suspect there are either quite a few football fans on here, or a lot of the posters are backs who wouldn’t have the first clue what a forward does if it isn’t a Sinkleresque 30m carry.
It is the same with Jonny Gray, he doesn’t win the MOTM awards but is a massive part of the Scottish performance.
I have also been surprised also by the criticism that has been made towards Nathan Hughes. He has been towards the top of the carries, metres made and tackles completed in all the games for England so far. Ok he hasn’t reach the highs that Billy did last year, but it took Billy time to have this impact at international level and Hughes will I am sure only get better with experience.
I suspect there are either quite a few football fans on here, or a lot of the posters are backs who wouldn’t have the first clue what a forward does if it isn’t a Sinkleresque 30m carry.
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Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
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Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look at
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George Carlin wrote:Itoje will be the man of the match. Even if his leg falls off 10 minutes before the start.
It'd be fair to say that if his leg did fall off ten minutes before the match, then Itoje might get Man of the Match, George.
Just a sympathy vote like BOD's after his last home game.
It'll be one of the features of the game, that match-up between him and Scotland's back five.
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RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look atAdministratr BoyRDW's contributions to see what wonderful banter pours forth from his finger tips as he educates us in all things rugby.
I think 'preach' is a better word to describe the words of rugby wisdom that I pass onto you all
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RDW_Scotland wrote:RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look atAdministratr BoyRDW's contributions to see what wonderful banter pours forth from his finger tips as he educates us in all things rugby.
I think 'preach' is a better word to describe the words of rugby wisdom that I pass onto you all
I think you both exceed expectations on here. I'm always impressed that Radge, as a front row forward, can write in full sentences, whereas I'm equally impressed that RDW, as a winger, is able to post occasionally on here without adding the words "LOOK AT ME" each time.
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Portnoy's Complaint wrote:George Carlin wrote:Itoje will be the man of the match. Even if his leg falls off 10 minutes before the start.
It'd be fair to say that if his leg did fall off ten minutes before the match, then Itoje might get Man of the Match, George.
Just a sympathy vote like BOD's after his last home game.
It'll be one of the features of the game, that match-up between him and Scotland's back five.
Always important to remember the following Top 5 Facts About Maro Itoje (according to John Inverdale):
1. Maro Itoje has a diary. It's called the Guinness Book of World Records.
2. Maro Itoje counted to infinity. Twice.
3. Maro Itoje can make a happy meal cry.
4. Maro Itoje can kill your imaginary friends.
5. Maro Itoje can hear sign language.
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George Carlin wrote:Portnoy's Complaint wrote:George Carlin wrote:Itoje will be the man of the match. Even if his leg falls off 10 minutes before the start.
It'd be fair to say that if his leg did fall off ten minutes before the match, then Itoje might get Man of the Match, George.
Just a sympathy vote like BOD's after his last home game.
It'll be one of the features of the game, that match-up between him and Scotland's back five.
Always important to remember the following Top 5 Facts About Maro Itoje (according to John Inverdale):
1. Maro Itoje has a diary. It's called the Guinness Book of World Records.
2. Maro Itoje counted to infinity. Twice.
3. Maro Itoje can make a happy meal cry.
4. Maro Itoje can kill your imaginary friends.
5. Maro Itoje can hear sign language.
It's nice to have a meaningful Culcutta Cup match for once innit, George?
Pity it's not in Edinburgh.
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6. Maro Itoje can slam a revolving door
7. Maro Itoje won the Battle of Thermopylae. The film dramatisation was simply called '1'.
8. Maro Itoje can kill two stones with one bird.
9. Maro Itoje is, in fact, Victoria's secret.
10. Maro Itoje's car has no starter motor.
7. Maro Itoje won the Battle of Thermopylae. The film dramatisation was simply called '1'.
8. Maro Itoje can kill two stones with one bird.
9. Maro Itoje is, in fact, Victoria's secret.
10. Maro Itoje's car has no starter motor.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look atAdministratr BoyRDW's contributions to see what wonderful banter pours forth from his finger tips as he educates us in all things rugby.
I think 'preach' is a better word to describe the words of rugby wisdom that I pass onto you all
I think you both exceed expectations on here. I'm always impressed that Radge, as a front row forward, can write in full sentences, whereas I'm equally impressed that RDW, as a winger, is able to post occasionally on here without adding the words "LOOK AT ME" each time.
Alas my pace is not what it used to be so am more of a 13/15 now. Just think of me as an Elliot Daley type without the pace, skill, fitness, strength and rugged good looks.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look atAdministratr BoyRDW's contributions to see what wonderful banter pours forth from his finger tips as he educates us in all things rugby.
I think 'preach' is a better word to describe the words of rugby wisdom that I pass onto you all
I think you both exceed expectations on here. I'm always impressed that Radge, as a front row forward, can write in full sentences, whereas I'm equally impressed that RDW, as a winger, is able to post occasionally on here without adding the words "LOOK AT ME" each time.
Alas my pace is not what it used to be so am more of a 13/15 now. Just think of me as an Elliot Daley type without the pace, skill, fitness, strength and rugged good looks.
Can you kick penalties from within your own half? If not, best add that to the list.....
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funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Rugbyjk wrote:Ouch, I know in the main backs are big girls' blouses, but to call them footie fans...That's below the belt?!
I'd say that's a fair assesment of a back's contribution on a rugby forum. Just have a look atAdministratr BoyRDW's contributions to see what wonderful banter pours forth from his finger tips as he educates us in all things rugby.
I think 'preach' is a better word to describe the words of rugby wisdom that I pass onto you all
I think you both exceed expectations on here. I'm always impressed that Radge, as a front row forward, can write in full sentences, whereas I'm equally impressed that RDW, as a winger, is able to post occasionally on here without adding the words "LOOK AT ME" each time.
Alas my pace is not what it used to be so am more of a 13/15 now. Just think of me as an Elliot Daley type without the pace, skill, fitness, strength and rugged good looks.
Can you kick penalties from within your own half? If not, best add that to the list.....
OK other than pace, skill, fitness, strength, rugged good looks and goal kicking from inside your own half the comparison is fair.
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11. Maro Itoje can win a game of connect four in three moves!
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nlpnlp wrote:I think Launchbury gets the MOTM awards because he does a lot of the grunt work in the England pack. Cole gets lauded for the occasional turnover, Lawes for his one big tackle a game, but Launchbury does a lot of the graft that isn’t showy. He got slated by a few people on this board after the France game for looking tired and unfit when he was subbed. It was more of the fact that he had had to really put in a shift in the tight against a monster French pack, than being unfit/off form. When you add in his cover tackling and consistent ball carrying, that’s why ex-players rate him.
It is the same with Jonny Gray, he doesn’t win the MOTM awards but is a massive part of the Scottish performance.
I have also been surprised also by the criticism that has been made towards Nathan Hughes. He has been towards the top of the carries, metres made and tackles completed in all the games for England so far. Ok he hasn’t reach the highs that Billy did last year, but it took Billy time to have this impact at international level and Hughes will I am sure only get better with experience.
I suspect there are either quite a few football fans on here, or a lot of the posters are backs who wouldn’t have the first clue what a forward does if it isn’t a Sinkleresque 30m carry.
On the first point - Launchbury I completely agree. He's a top class lock who is just so valuable. Brilliant player.
On the second - I think people are judging him on his insane performances the last few seasons in the prem where he has been like a dump truck...and expected him to walk straight in and match that. And also match what Billy has been doing in the White shirt. Possibly a little unfair as Billy himself took some time to make the level he was operating at prior to his injury.
It does take time....and I must admit I didn't realise myself that he was near the top for most of those stats for England.
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Disagree with the ridiculous Lawes assessment of one big tackle a game though. He's added carrying, upped workrate for tackles, is a lineout presence and always the guy disrupting opposition mauls. Better than Launch this 6N IMO.
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12 Maro Itoje taught Jesus how to walk on water
13 Accoding to the Welsh Maro Itoje is nearly good enough to play for Wales
13 Accoding to the Welsh Maro Itoje is nearly good enough to play for Wales
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Personally thought Hughes was very good against Wales, even though he was much maligned by many. There's no doubt his carrying hasn't been as destructive as it has been at premiership level, but his willingness to relentlessly hit it up constantly ties in defenders, tires the opposition and gives his backs time to recover or wait for a gap.
I'd prefer it if he made ground every time of course, but I'd rather he was stopped on the gainline than ship on crappy ball and put others in trouble or the team at risk of a turnover.
I'd prefer it if he made ground every time of course, but I'd rather he was stopped on the gainline than ship on crappy ball and put others in trouble or the team at risk of a turnover.
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tazfalklands wrote:
13 Accoding to the Welsh Maro Itoje is nearly good enough to play for Wales
You've taken that too far.
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beshocked wrote:MOTM awards matter if you are trying to win some money though.
Best to try and gravitate towards media darlings.
Launchbury seems to be high up the list, one eye catching carry vs Italy was seemingly enough. Showed it a few times to just hammer home the point.
Media darlings in this game -
Farrell
Itoje
Launchbury
Youngs (hasn't been in form for a while but the media love him when he plays well)
Hogg
Russell
There's a drinking game in this...
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cascough wrote:tazfalklands wrote:
13 Accoding to the Welsh Maro Itoje is nearly good enough to play for Wales
You've taken that too far.
Seconded. Making jokes about Welsh rugby is never ever funny.
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If rating a player's performance was just based on effort I'd give Hughes a 9 vs Wales, it's just I felt like he battled hard but wasn't as effective as England need him to be.
Was his best performance though. Was woeful vs Italy in contrast.
Was his best performance though. Was woeful vs Italy in contrast.
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England played 13 vs 15 in training today. The 13 in white bibs are thought to indicate starters and they alternated a couple of positions to give all 15 starters a go.
Image in the spoiler tag.
Link to telegraph story
1. Marler/Cole
2. Hartley
3. Lawes
4. Launchbury
5. Itoje
6. Haskell
7. B Vunipola
8. Youngs
9. Ford
10. Farrell
11. Nowell/Joseph
12. Daly
13. Brown
Ignoring the ridiculous numbering system, it's the team you'd put your mortgage on Jones picking with very few surprises - regardless of personal preferences.
Vunipola being dropped into the deep end is probably the biggest shock, but Jones could well tell him to go balls to the wall for as long as he can, and then sub him off around half-time, either before or after as the situation dictates.
The other option, as the article suggests, is that Vunipola may be a bluff, and the "leak" may be deliberate.
Image in the spoiler tag.
- Spoiler:
Link to telegraph story
1. Marler/Cole
2. Hartley
3. Lawes
4. Launchbury
5. Itoje
6. Haskell
7. B Vunipola
8. Youngs
9. Ford
10. Farrell
11. Nowell/Joseph
12. Daly
13. Brown
Ignoring the ridiculous numbering system, it's the team you'd put your mortgage on Jones picking with very few surprises - regardless of personal preferences.
Vunipola being dropped into the deep end is probably the biggest shock, but Jones could well tell him to go balls to the wall for as long as he can, and then sub him off around half-time, either before or after as the situation dictates.
The other option, as the article suggests, is that Vunipola may be a bluff, and the "leak" may be deliberate.
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