6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

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ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 10th March
16:00 GMT
Twickenham Stadium

Live on ITV, RTE, FR2, DMAX

Referee - Matthieu Raynal
AR1 - Romain Poite
AR2 - Marius Mitrea
TMO - Ben Skeen

A. Head to Head

134 Played 134
74 Won 42
18 Drawn 18
42 Lost 74
1,562 Points 1,141

B. Recent Form

6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England

14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England

8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England

2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England

4 February 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
6 – 13 to England

C. Teams

ENGLAND


Starting XV:

15. Mike Brown (vice captain, Harlequins, 58 caps), 14. Jack Nowell  (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps), 13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 31 caps), 12. Owen Farrell (vice captain, Saracens, 50 caps), 11. Elliot Daly (Wasps, 11 caps), 10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 33 caps), 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 68 caps), 1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 49 caps), 2. Dylan Hartley (captain, Northampton Saints, 82 caps), 3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 72 caps), 4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 40 caps) , 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 56 caps), 6. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 10 caps), 7. James Haskell (Wasps, 73 caps) , 8. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 6 caps).

Finishers

16. Jamie George (Saracens, 15 caps), 17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 40 caps), 18. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 6 caps), 19. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 48 caps), 20. Billy Vunipola (vice captain, Saracens 32 caps), 21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 69 caps), 22. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps), 23. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 24 caps).

SCOTLAND


Starting XV

15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 51 caps; 16 tries, 3 pens, 89 points
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 15 tries, 75 points
13. Huw Jones (Stormers) – 6 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 29 caps; 12 tries, 60 points
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 5 cons, 8 pens, 44 points
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 3 caps

1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
2. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 23 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse) – 63 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 31 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
6. John Barclay CAPTAIN (Scarlets) – 58 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps; 1 try, 5 points
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps

Substitutes:
16. Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 105 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17. Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – 6 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap
19. Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 27 caps; 1 try, 5 points
20. Cornell Du Preez (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
21. Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 4 tries, 3 pens, 29 points
22. Duncan Weir (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 7 cons, 10 pens, 1 drop, 57 points
23. Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 6 tries, 30 points

Poor decision. Thankfully corrected by the NZ fourth official.

FARCE

Thankyou tmo, voice of reason.

TMO talks some sense into the ref ...

That is an easy penalty but I can't see that was a yellow.

Yellow is utterly crazy

Edit. Thank feck for the TMO

Rugby is lost if that's a penalty imho

Hughes is playing well

It's a shame Scotland have had so many injuries.

I think we should be kicking to the corner, why try to calm things down?

Vissers playing?

Why kick for goal at 37-7?

lostinwales wrote:That is an easy penalty but I can't see that was a yellow.

Yellow is utterly crazy

Edit. Thank feck for the TMO

Unusual for the TMO to completely change the referee. But clearly the right decision.

I want 70, at least.

Ah kick straight out...Scotland in meltdown

Rugbyjk wrote:Hughes is playing well

I'm not surprised we've seen a reaction with BV sitting on the bench.

TightHEAD wrote:Rugby is lost if that's a penalty imho

No its definitely a penalty but nothing more.

BTW the damage was from Gray (5) hand.

Farrell definitely got his kicking mojo back

Can we just call it a day now?

kingelderfield wrote:

Rugbyjk wrote:Hughes is playing well

I'm not surprised we've seen a reaction with BV sitting on the bench.

Hes been running onto the ball rather than taking it static. BV can make something out of static ball but few others

England easing up a bit. They must play for 80 and not ease up.

I'm shocked it has taken Scotland so long to figure out how to take England on.

TightHEAD wrote:I'm shocked it has taken Scotland so long to figure out how to take England on.

true, wouldn't stop England playing their game though.

Well played good try Scotland.

I thought they were pro rugby players, they should learn how to think on their feet! Lol

Hartley may not be as good as George, but by Eck he gives 100%

TightHEAD wrote:I thought they were pro rugby players, they should learn how to think on their feet! Lol

we're talking about Scotland here right?

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ah kick straight out...Scotland in meltdown

Maybe it was a cunning tactic - win a scrum pen - kick for positions and score a try ...

Hartley off George on

trebellbobaggins wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:I thought they were pro rugby players, they should learn how to think on their feet! Lol

we're talking about Scotland here right?  

Yes we are seeing as a few Scottish players were mocking England about the Italian game. Lol

Using a pod of forwards as a decoy and giving the ball to your centre - too high risk for Ireland.

Heaf wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ah kick straight out...Scotland in meltdown

Maybe it was a cunning tactic - win a scrum pen - kick for positions and score a try ...

Very cheeky lol

kingelderfield wrote:Well played good try Scotland.

It was well worked but from a technique point of view its a very poor tackle from Joseph. He pushes off from his feet quickly meaning he can't drive into the tackle. Needed to get all of his body weight behind that tackle.

Joseph limping too

TightHEAD wrote:

trebellbobaggins wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:I thought they were pro rugby players, they should learn how to think on their feet! Lol

we're talking about Scotland here right?  

Yes we are seeing as a few Scottish players were mocking England about the Italian game. Lol

were they? very silly. very much outplayed today.

How long till MV gets on?

England now bring on their best hooker. Nightmare.

What questions are they asking these guys during the HIA, or are the Sweaties just thick? They keep failing them

Well defended Scotland

GeordieFalcon wrote:

Heaf wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ah kick straight out...Scotland in meltdown

Maybe it was a cunning tactic - win a scrum pen - kick for positions and score a try ...

Very cheeky lol

Not sure I agreed with the pen mind ...

Seymour fails HIA.
A 10 at Fullback and a Scrum Hslf on the wing. Nightmare.

Oh Barclay...school boy error

Well done Barclay. Captain losing the plot

Lol, little victories

Scotland hold it up then get penalised for being mouthy? well done there Barclay. The work was done for a change. Learn from that.

Oops! Wot did I say!

ah good, I felt a tight try was needed as Scotland were kind of winning those 5 metre penalty opportunities.

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Well done Barclay. Captain losing the plot

Classic sweat sock

lostinwales wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

nathan wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft

Absolutely agree with that. Tackle was copybook and there's no way you can expect the player to control the ball carriers momentum from there. Players are going to start getting confused when the way they get taught all their lives is going to be carded. No way he could have adjusted mid air on that tackle, meaning, as tiger says, he needed to apply a softer approach to do so. 'Tackle hard....but perhaps not that hard'...soft.

He went above the horizontal, how on earth is the fact that's a yellow a surprise to anyone?

Didn't say it was a surprise, said it was soft. And it was.

I don't think Daly thought it was soft

The tackle? No,

the ruling, yes.

As a player or ball carrier I'd have been happy with that. When youre tackled by someone low and hard, as you're supposed to be tackled, you expect to land on your back.

Soft. Horizontal or not.

Anyway, it is what it is. Good game though, England finally ticking the scoreboard over this 6N with some polished tries. Good, clean match with more to come I suspect. Scotland starting to rally but England too far ahead.

Perhaps Scotland should have taken a leaf out of Italy's book instead of being drawn in by Eddies moaning...geez he's good.

Scotland getting steam rollered but the officials are giving everything to England

TightHEAD wrote:What questions are they asking these guys during the HIA, or are the Sweaties just thick? They keep failing them

That's very funny.