Woods DUI

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The end is nigh, for Tiger ???

If you're going to be a drug addict, you might as well pick one which will have interesting effects, like LSD.
Getting hooked on painkillers must be boring, but perhaps it matches his personality.

I may have posted this in the wrong thread earlier, so here it is again...

kwinigolfer wrote:http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/police-woods-had-5-drugs-system-when-arrested/?cid=rr_editorial_p1

Impossible to believe that the Tour didn't know he was doing at least some of this stuff. Where's the testing, where's the transparency?

Weird that the Tour goes so far out of its way to condemn Vijay and buries its head in the sand in this case.

Here's a quick recap I picked out from the current PGA Tour Anti Doping Manual... Of the 5 drugs found in Tiger's system.

3 of them are fine... 2 are potential issues

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OK as per the policy

Hydrocodone, the generic form of a painkiller branded as Vicodin; Specifically permitted for use

Alprazolam, a mood and sleep drug commonly known as Xanax; Specifically permitted for use

Zolpidem, a sleep drug commonly known as Ambien; Specifically permitted for use

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But there are some potential Anti-Doping Policy issues with the following

Hydromorphone, a painkiller commonly known as Dilaudid; Is on the Prohibited Substance list as a "Drug of Abuse"

Delta-9 carboxy THC, a muscle relaxant that is also the substance the body metabolizes after marijuana is consumed.Is on the Prohibited Substance list as a "Drug of Abuse". It's legal medical usage in the state of Florida (or any other state) is not discussed specifically in the policy)

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The policy regarding "Drugs of Abuse" is rather complicated but generally they are treated differently from PED's.

Any violation and/or disciplinary action involving a PED is required to be disclosed to the public, None of the drugs listed in the report are classified as PED's.

Violations of "Drugs of Abuse" sections of the policy are handled under the Tour's other conduct policies outside of the Anti-doping policy. Just like other Tour "Conduct Unbecoming" issues, disciplinary actions for Drugs of Abuse (if any) are not required to be disclosed and may or may not involve sanction from the Tour. Below is the "summery language" regarding the treatment of Drugs of Abuse in the PGA Tour Policy:

How are Drugs of Abuse Violations different from Anti-Doping Rule Violations?
Drugs of Abuse Violations, as determined in the discretion of the Program Administrator, shall be referred for evaluation and disciplinary action under the PGA TOUR Tournament Regulations for Conduct Unbecoming a Professional. Anti-Doping Rule Violations shall be evaluated under the provisions of the Program and subject to the Sanctions for Anti-Doping Rule Violations.

robo,
In these days of "opioid epidemic", it's hard to comprehend why addictive crap like Vicodin would be permitted.

PS: I see the early 17/18 sked has been published - any "double dipper" worth his salt should be scrutinizing entry criteria . . . . .

Surprised there are no traces left of steoroids and beta blockers after all he must have consumed over the years...

kwinigolfer wrote:robo,
In these days of "opioid epidemic", it's hard to comprehend why addictive crap like Vicodin would be permitted.

PS: I see the early 17/18 sked has been published - any "double dipper" worth his salt should be scrutinizing entry criteria . . . . .

On the first part... it's not a Anti-Doping Policy's job to be a "babysitter" by deciding what a person should or shouldn't do, but to regulate substances that might enhance performance or behavior.  So yeah... lots of permitted medications out there with potential for abuse, but not much can be done about it.

As for schedule...  not sure what gives with releasing only the first portion.  This is the first time I remember seeing them do that.  My guess is there are two question marks they're trying to get settled... status of Quicken Loans... and if there will be 3 or 4 playoff events.  Pending those outcomes, does 3M Minnesota fit in and/or a relocated Quicken event to Michigan?   I don't have a clue to the answers...  And those hoping for schedule contraction can forget it... Next 2017-18 season goes to 49 events, up from 47 this season.

Anyway... here's the schedule as announced by the Tour for the fall so far and as expected... (unofficial events omitted)

8-Oct - Safeway Open
16-Oct - CIMB Classic
22-Oct - CJ Cup at Nine Bridges - Korea (new $9.25 mil event)
29-Oct - WGC-HSBC Champions
29-Oct - Sanderson Farms Championship
5-Nov - Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
12-Nov - OHL Classic at Mayakoba
19-Nov - RSM Classic

And here's the "supposedly firm"  portions of the rest of the schedule. Again the question marks surrounding the Quicken Loans National and dates and # of playoffs as noted above.

7-Jan - SBS Tournament of Champions
14-Jan - Sony Open in Hawaii
21-Jan - CareerBuilder Challenge
28-Jan - Farmers Insurance Open
4-Feb - Waste Management Phoenix Open
11-Feb - AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
18-Feb - Genesis Open
25-Feb - The Honda Classic
4-Mar - WGC-Mexico Championship
4-Mar - Puerto Rico Open
11-Mar - Valspar Championship
18-Mar - Arnold Palmer Invitational
25-Mar - WGC-Dell Technologies Match Play
25-Mar - Corales Puntacana Resort & Club Championship (new alternate event)
1-Apr - Houston Open
8-Apr - Masters Tournament
15-Apr - RBC Heritage
22-Apr - Valero Texas Open
29-Apr - Zurich Classic of New Orleans
7-May - Wells Fargo Championship
13-May - The Players Championship
20-May - AT&T Byron Nelson
27-May - Dean & DeLuca Invitational
3-Jun - The Memorial Tournament
10-Jun - FedEx St. Jude Classic
18-Jun - U.S. Open
24-Jun - Travelers Championship
TBD…. - Quicken Loans National
8-July - Greenbrier Classic
15-Jul - John Deere Classic
22-Jul - The Open Championship
22-Jul - Barbasol Championship
29-Jul - RBC Canadian Open
5-Aug - WGC-Bridgestone Invitational
5-Aug - Barracuda Championship
12-Aug - PGA Championship
TBD…. - Wyndham Championship  
TBD…. - The Northern Trust
TBD…. - Dell Technologies Championship (Boston event at risk for removal or replacement)
TBD…. - BMW Championship
TBD…. - Tour Championship

robo, Is PR solid?

Why do you have Wyndham as a TBD? Is this at risk? Any more buzz on replacing the SHO?

Kwini... Puerto Rico is signed for another 2 years... And yes Wyndham is solid the week after the PGA, but I left it TBD for now until that's published by the tournament. All other 2017-18 season dates in the above are published by the individual tournaments.

Kwini... I have nothing on Houston other than it's in for next year as indicated above. There may be something working, it's just that I haven't talked to anyone about it since we last touched on it here so I dunno at this time.

Thanks robo,
Wonder how the Tour's rank and file will feel about three limited field events among the first four tournaments, four of the first eight for some?
Europeans who are qualified should play at least two, three if they can get away with it.

kwinigolfer wrote:Thanks robo,
Wonder how the Tour's rank and file will feel about three limited field events among the first four tournaments, four of the first eight for some?
Europeans who are qualified should play at least two, three if they can get away with it.

That's another reason getting that 5th alternate event in the D.R. was so important. At least now all the WGC's are covered plus one extra for Open week...

The most important thing is really the Webbies and the 1st reshuffle... the fact there's 2 weeks they can't get into doesn't matter much because nobody else in their category can get into those either.

Also for the rank and file... last year only 6 top-125 entered players didn't get into the CIMB. My guess is Korea will take some of the top players from CIMB so more "rank and file" that are willing to make the trip will get in that one.

Tiger back practicing pitching...

https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/903344380219719681

Be_the_ball wrote:Tiger back practicing pitching...

https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/903344380219719681

When is this chump going to call it a day? He's like a punch drunk has-been boxer coming back for another shot at the title. It's pathetic.

Definitely gonna break Jacks record now

Be_the_ball wrote:Tiger back practicing pitching...

https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/903344380219719681

Look at his legs

They are like an anorexic's

super_realist wrote:

Be_the_ball wrote:Tiger back practicing pitching...

https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/903344380219719681

When is this chump going to call it a day? He's like a punch drunk has-been boxer coming back for another shot at the title. It's pathetic.

Maybe he likes playing golf??

Super

His legs look totally normal for a slim guy. Do you spend much time artificially bulking up your legs?

The girly legs go well with the man bag..

PS. It's a mulligan we see. The first ball ended up 10 ft in front of him.

PPS. Is it slow motion or is his back that bad?

McLaren wrote:Super

His legs look totally normal for a slim guy.  Do you spend much time artificially bulking up your legs?

Mac, how is Woods slim? His legs look ridiculous for a guy who has spent years being a gym bufty. Why would he not focus on his whole body? Clearly he simply wanted to look bigger than his peers because they can't see his legs during the tournament.

With legs that thin, is it any wonder that they couldn't take the power he generates through his mad axeman swing? It's simply more evidence of how his team haven't looked after him properly, he's not remotely in proportion.

I don't "artificially" build up my legs, they're simply built up through years of running. Woods looks like he's been an extra in Tenko.

Someone seems to have an interest in mens legs. Nothing wrong with that if tgats your thing. Each to their own.

beninho wrote:Someone seems to have an interest in mens legs. Nothing wrong with that if tgats your thing. Each to their own.

Just wondering why someone who is such a narcissist has built up the top half of the body and borrowed the legs of a Birkenau captive for the bottom half. No wonder he gets knee injuries.

I see no issues with his legs, but unlike yourself, I am not an expert on mens legs and how they should look.

Why is he a narcissist? What makes you say that?

Supers right, Tiger looks like he skips "leg day" in the gym. Whats more if he's doing all that upper body work and not stretching his hamstrings, that leads to lower back problems. You would have to wonder if he has a PT at all?

beninho wrote:I see no issues with his legs, but unlike yourself, I am not an expert on mens legs and how they should look.

Why is he a narcissist?  What makes you say that?

How is he a narcissist? Eh, maybe because he's obsessed with "beating everyone in the gym" as he so often claimed and so that everyone can see the bits which make him "big and strong" and "intimidating" beneath his "red shirt". Yet the bits they can't see, those strings of spaghetti he calls legs have had zero work.

If you don't want injuries, your body has to be in proportion. His is hilariously lopsided. You don't have to be an expert in mens legs (nice try to make me look like a homosexual for noticing his legs are like Peter Crouch/Lena Zavaroni) to notice that his legs don't have the strength to cope with the power he's putting through them.
His injuries and where's he's had them show that.

All those medical professionals he's seen over the years regarding his injuries, and they could have cured him by telling him to beef up his leg muscles. Well if nameless faceless from the internet can diagnose it.

Well, it's pure conjecture that he's got a good team around him telling him how to train isn't it?

Clearly there is something wrong with his physique/and or training if he continues to get back injuries all the time.

I never said that his twig like legs were the source of his injuries I said it WASN'T SUPRISING that he gets injuries given how weedy his pins are.

Christ, I never claimed to be an expert, I simply ask the question on why he works on his top half, but has the legs of a an Bergen Belsen inmate. How could that ever be good if you intend to put a lot of power through them?

Can you imagine if someone had legs like a Track Cyclist and the upper body of Mo Farah? It would be just as laughable.

Anyway, seeing as Woods surrounds himself with morons as advisers, how do you know he doesn't in his medical life?. They let him get addicted to long expired and no longer available "pain killers" didn't they? They repeatedly failed to sort his knee and back issues. So maybe he should seek advice elsewhere.

You're being facetious Ben. Just looking at his physique shows he hasn't given as much focus to his legs as he has his upper body. Maybe thats due to his knee problems and thats fair enough, but the effects of neglecting them and being out of balance physically Will and Have caused other peoblems ie: a knackered lower back. You don't have to be a medical professional to see and say that, it's pretty common knowledge. Im not having a go at Tiger personally here, if anything its his management team. Ultimately he's a billion $ asset, and to me he looks mismanaged, both physically and medically and probably emotionally too.

beninho wrote:All those medical professionals he's seen over the years regarding his injuries, and they could have cured him by telling him to beef up his leg muscles. Well if nameless faceless from the internet can diagnose it.

If nameless faceless couldn't give unsolicited medical advice, what would be the point of the internet?

super_realist wrote:
Mac,  how is Woods slim? His legs look ridiculous for a guy who has spent years being a gym bufty.

Not familiar with bufty. Does this mean you think Tiger is buff?

No, it means he's a gym meathead. More concerned with how he looks than actually doing it for the good of his health.