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Post by TheSquaredCircle Wed 14 Jun 2017, 11:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

So it's confirmed.....mayweather vs Conor McGregor.
The lay public and mostly MMA fans will be most enthused by this fight. I think it's the start of a WWE style entertainment farce. People will be going crazy on social media about the legitimacy of this fight and how it's the greatest thing to ever happen. The reality is that it is chalk and cheese fighting......might as well pair Andy Murray up with Freddy flintoff for the WBA belt. The spanner in the works could be mayweather along lay off and age. Is this a horrendous scam fight or should we be excited that boxing is reaching even more platforms?

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 04 Aug 2017, 5:18 pm

Come back Az, Waingro and Gordy all is forgiven....

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Post by Derbymanc Sat 05 Aug 2017, 9:39 am

This thread is more entertaining than the fight probably will be. Unless Mac releases the full footage of the sparring, looks like he may have been slapped around and then got lucky with a push. Stupid of them to release the picture and not think Paulie of all people would speak out.

Still think Mayweathers gonna smack him silly and would put money on him getting beat by just about any dedicated boxer (inc journeymen)

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Post by hazharrison Sun 06 Aug 2017, 12:44 pm

milkyboy wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Margarito and Thurman

So that's two welterweights we know for sure Floyd ducked

you're consistent with your myopic wumming hermy i'll give you that. Third party posts opinion/story that supports one of hermy's pet theories about a fighter he loves/hates and it becomes a proven fact.  Very Happy

IF it is true, it would only prove that haymon was nurturing his cash cow, not that mayweather was ducking.

Hauser loves a dig at mayweather. Now... the IV drip story for a fighter who doesn't need to rehydrate - that's a serioius question mark. But this constant Floyd the ducker stuff is bolox. He's a control freak, business centred, everything on his terms... the manny fight should have happened way earlier, sure there's things to pick on, but for every fighter there are guys he 'should have fought'. How many of the murder's row did robinson fight? People claim leonard ducked pryor, hearns rematch, hagler rematch etc.

Notwithstanding the fact that Mayweather doesn't cut weight for fights, is not a natural welter by todays standards and has given significant weight away on fight night in the vast majority of his fights at welter and above. If he was a fighter you liked Hermy you'd be creaming yourself over his david v goliath performances!

Who is Robinson supposed to have swerved? Timeline wasn't there for a Burley fight. Who else?

Floyd flat out bowed out of the welterweight division when it was in a really strong state: Mosley, Cotto, Margs and Williams and Hauser's anecdote suggests he truly didn't want anything to do with Margarito - who looked a monster at that point (same deal with Manny c2010/11).

I give a fighter way more leeway if they've already spilled their guts fighting wars (ala Ali and Foreman 2).

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 9:09 am

Derbymanc wrote:This thread is more entertaining than the fight probably will be. Unless Mac releases the full footage of the sparring, looks like he may have been slapped around and then got lucky with a push. Stupid of them to release the picture and not think Paulie of all people would speak out.

Still think Mayweathers gonna smack him silly and would put money on him getting beat by just about any dedicated boxer (inc journeymen)

Paulie is definitely a real loud mouth attention seeker. He is getting great mileage from a fairly innocuous photo.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 10:34 am

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
Derbymanc wrote:This thread is more entertaining than the fight probably will be. Unless Mac releases the full footage of the sparring, looks like he may have been slapped around and then got lucky with a push. Stupid of them to release the picture and not think Paulie of all people would speak out.

Still think Mayweathers gonna smack him silly and would put money on him getting beat by just about any dedicated boxer (inc journeymen)

Paulie is definitely a real loud mouth attention seeker. He is getting great mileage from a fairly innocuous photo.

Apparently it was an exchange in the locker room that really upset Paulie, maybe something in there made him feel insecure Whistle

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 10:46 am

I think there may be a bit of jealousy at play when it comes to Paulie. I mean without any pro experience McGregor is getting a boxing pay day that Paulie could only dream of in his stop start career. Probably a bigger fight that all of Paulie's put together. He doesnt do himself any favours with all the whinging in interviews.

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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 12:36 pm

McGregor is posting rubbish pictures, making it look like he put a beating on Paulie. Any man with self pride, would speak out as he did.

If Paulie is battering Conor, what the f**k is Floyd going to do to him?

I'm a huge fan of Conor the mma fighter, but he has no business being in the ring with an elite boxer (yet).

Floyd wears him down and stops him with body punches.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 12:47 pm

Everyone climbing up Paulies ar$e to get at McGregor, it wasn't McGregor who posted the pic it was a photographer yet Paulie gets upset at McGregor?

Insecure much?

Now Ive not seen all of the interview but from Paulies own mouth, he asked McGregor not to post pics of the sparring session because then he breaks his NDA but goes and gives interviews doing just that? Headscratch

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 12:54 pm

Paulies face really seems to back up his claim he got the better of McGregor boxing Rolling Eyes

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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:02 pm

Paulie doesn't have power. Diaz marks easy, yet he battered McGregor as well.

Why would Paulie lie. Conor should release the video, so we can all laugh at his novice boxing skills.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:04 pm

marty2086 wrote:Everyone climbing up Paulies ar$e to get at McGregor, it wasn't McGregor who posted the pic it was a photographer yet Paulie gets upset at McGregor?

Insecure much?

Now Ive not seen all of the interview but from Paulies own mouth, he asked McGregor not to post pics of the sparring session because then he breaks his NDA but goes and gives interviews doing just that? Headscratch

Yep Paulie is coming across as a real hypocrite. Its entertaining though and just helps to build the hype for this fight.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:06 pm

AdamT wrote:Paulie doesn't have power. Diaz marks easy, yet he battered McGregor as well.

Why would Paulie lie. Conor should release the video, so we can all laugh at his novice boxing skills.

Why would anyone going into a €100m fight release a full video of themselves sparring? That would be idiotic. You think Floyd would do that?

Paulie Malignaggi is completely insignificant to McGregor and he is barely significant in this fight.


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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:07 pm

Well he can release it aft, to show how big a liar Paulie is. I look forward to seeing it.

Just hope he doesn't edit it, like he did with Van Herden. He got beat there as well.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:09 pm

Have you ever come across a boxer that didnt think they won a sparring session or a fight that goes to a decision for example?

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:14 pm

AdamT wrote:Paulie doesn't have power. Diaz marks easy, yet he battered McGregor as well.

Why would Paulie lie. Conor should release the video, so we can all laugh at his novice boxing skills.

What video?

Paulie said surely the security cameras caught the session so McGregor can release those? Not only are they not his to release but why would he sit going through them to see if it videoed the session?

Just because an insecure little man can't let something go, that's why he would lie. It's called ego

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:17 pm

BTW, you left out Diaz being able to use feet, knees and elbows along with 4oz gloves

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:20 pm

marty2086 wrote:BTW, you left out Diaz being able to use feet, knees and elbows along with 4oz gloves

Diaz is also a lot bigger than Paulie and Mayweather.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:21 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
marty2086 wrote:BTW, you left out Diaz being able to use feet, knees and elbows along with 4oz gloves

Diaz is also a lot bigger than Paulie and Mayweather.

That too

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:23 pm

RIP...606 Boxing. Sad

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Post by Derbymanc Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:23 pm

Well who's photographer was it taking pictures of the session and how come that was the only picture released?
Paulie's got a right to be annoyed as he's a talented boxer himself and none of us know how the rest of the session went (surprisingly if he'd have said nothing I doubt any of us would be going over this as much as we have).

There's very few people that avoid getting hit completely in a sparring session and for all we know Paulie slipped i the shower and got his black eye.

The fact it's the only bit from the sparring session is what makes it fishy for me, if it was a decent Kd I would have expected more footage but at least this is slightly entertaining

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:25 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:RIP...606 Boxing. Sad

No need to be so dramatic Trussman.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:28 pm

What footage though? As Paulie said it was just photographers there, no one was videoing it

It seems some on here are automatically buying Paulies version, no one has put an alternative forward other than whats seen in the pics but his version is filled with contradictions too

As is usually the case the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:30 pm

Derbymanc wrote:Well who's photographer was it taking pictures of the session and how come that was the only picture released?
Paulie's got a right to be annoyed as he's a talented boxer himself and none of us know how the rest of the session went (surprisingly if he'd have said nothing I doubt any of us would be going over this as much as we have).

There's very few people that avoid getting hit completely in a sparring session and for all we know Paulie slipped i the shower and got his black eye.

The fact it's the only bit from the sparring session is what makes it fishy for me, if it was a decent Kd I would have expected more footage but at least this is slightly entertaining

Mcgregor's team may have tweeted the photo to hype the fight. Paulie's pride is making sure the hype snowballs and all for no fee. Either that or he is trying to enjoy his 2 minutes of global fame either way he comes across as a loser.

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Post by Derbymanc Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:39 pm

Can't argue with that one Guns (well i could ha ha).

You would assume that Mac would be videoing all his sparring sessions so his team can analyse later where he's going wrong, if not then it's just a picture that Paulie's brought more attention than it normally would have gooten :-)

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:42 pm

He retired now anyway so its all it little silly how much he cares about a fairly innocuous tweet.

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Post by LionsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:47 pm

MMA fans are the worst.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:49 pm

LionsV2 wrote:MMA fans are the worst.

No offense but dont you think that is a fairly childish comment?

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Post by Scottrf Tue 08 Aug 2017, 1:59 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
LionsV2 wrote:MMA fans are the worst.

No offense but dont you think that is a fairly childish comment?
It's not true anyway. Wrestling fans are the worst. MMA fans are the second worst.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:02 pm

Scottrf wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:
LionsV2 wrote:MMA fans are the worst.

No offense but dont you think that is a fairly childish comment?
It's not true anyway. Wrestling fans are the worst. MMA fans are the second worst.

What a classy pair

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Post by LionsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:03 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
LionsV2 wrote:MMA fans are the worst.

No offense but dont you think that is a fairly childish comment?


Not really, the evidence suggests that MMA fans know bugger all about boxing.

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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:04 pm

I would say wrestling fans are more logical. I am a fan of mma, but nothing like the kind that swarms over social media.

It's not really MMA fans though. It's McGregor fans that probably think that UFC is the sport, not mma.

McGregor is a quitter. He was getting hurt by Diaz, so he voluntarily offered his back, to stop any further punishment.

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Post by Derbymanc Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:07 pm

C'mon Lions, chill out a little bit and just pretend it's 2 actual boxers :-)

Wrestling/MMA both the same innit, people hugging around until a victor is named

(I would mention it being fixed but boxings got some history with that :-)


p.p.p.p.s i'm kidding btw

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Post by EX7EY Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:07 pm

This is bordering on the ridiculous now. Who actually cares whether he did knock Paulie down in sparring? Sparring is sparring, they'll be trying things out, working on specifics. It is what it is.

I can't wait for this to be over and done with now. Conor is getting schooled off Floyd when they fight, end of story. Anybody that thinks otherwise is either gullible, deluded, backward, out of touch with reality, clueless...or all of the aforementioned. Take your pick.

The worst bit is when Conor loses nobody will care anyway. All his fans will just whip out the excuse of him not being a boxer, and 'Mayweather wouldn't have a real fight with him'

....its so obvious how the whole thing will play out there's literally no point in discussing it.

Mayweather's going to take him to school for 12 rounds and then walk off into the sunset with one last fat paycheck. Conor will go back to UFC with millions more in the bank and his silly fans will continue writing about 'red panty night' and screaming 'you'll do f**kin nuttin' at everyone all over facebook.

Conor and his fans are possibly the most irritating band of idiots in the whole of combat sports. I can't wait until he gets mullered in a UFC bout at some point in the future either - which he will do. It's just a matter of time

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:08 pm

If you watched enough of McGregor you'd know when caught in those positions he panics, it's the same when he lost to Duffy and the Russian earlier in his career which is ironic given John Kavanaghs BJJ skills and coaching ability


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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:09 pm

I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:10 pm

marty2086 wrote:If you watched enough of McGregor you'd know when caught in those positions he panics, it's the same when he lost to Duffy and the Russian earlier in his career which is ironic given John Kavanaghs BJJ skills and coaching ability


If you watched, you would know that Conor panicked wrestled, because he was getting beat up and about to be stopped in that fight. Why did he go for a soft takedown and put up no fight on the ground. He quit and went for the easy option.


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Post by EX7EY Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:13 pm

AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:13 pm

AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

Lol, you basically just called yourself a knuckle dragger by admitting you are a McGregor fan.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:18 pm

You mean why in the whole 10secs? Like when he tried palming off Diazs shots or tried to use his hips to get out of Diazs mount, that kind of fighting back? Rolling Eyes

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:19 pm

AdamT wrote:Well he can release it aft, to show how big a liar Paulie is. I look forward to seeing it.

Just hope he doesn't edit it, like he did with Van Herden. He got beat there as well.

Paulie Malignaggi actually admitted that McGregor won the first sparring session so I doubt you will get that excited about seeing the second session.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qhXv0-HHY

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:19 pm

EX7EY wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

Another one?

FFS, he didn't do anything on social media yet is getting the blame? picard

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:23 pm

EX7EY wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

I think McGregor has always lacked class which is why I wouldnt consider myself a fan however, Paulie can equally be accused of lacking class. He has been running his mouth at all opportunity for a week now.

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Post by EX7EY Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:24 pm

marty2086 wrote:
EX7EY wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

Another one?

FFS, he didn't do anything on social media yet is getting the blame? picard

Where did it come from them? You think because it didn't come directly from his official account it didn't come from him? Oh please, such delusion.

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Post by marty2086 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:31 pm

EX7EY wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
EX7EY wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

Another one?

FFS, he didn't do anything on social media yet is getting the blame? picard

Where did it come from them? You think because it didn't come directly from his official account it didn't come from him? Oh please, such delusion.

A photographer, you think McGregor actually cares/ If he wanted to post it he would

Maybe since Paulie asked him not to, he didn't

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Post by EX7EY Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:37 pm

marty2086 wrote:
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marty2086 wrote:
EX7EY wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

I respect what Conors done and I actually thought he was alright when I watched the serious of TUF where he was a coach. BUT I think he goes a little bit too far and I don't like the way he goes about a lot of it anymore. This stuff with Paulie for example is just ridiculous. It shows no class getting someone in for sparring - which ultimately means they are there helping you - and then trying to show them up on social media on the back of it. Not cool.

Another one?

FFS, he didn't do anything on social media yet is getting the blame? picard

Where did it come from them? You think because it didn't come directly from his official account it didn't come from him? Oh please, such delusion.

A photographer, you think McGregor actually cares/ If he wanted to post it he would

Maybe since Paulie asked him not to, he didn't

Listen, I don't actually care. Why do you care what my opinion of Conor is anyway??

What matters is that there are people in this world that actually believe McGregor can / will beat Floyd. These people are using valuable oxygen and other resources that could be put to better use elsewhere.

I just find it astonishing that people can be so naïve and then actually be prepared to argue about it with people. Floyd could remain inactive for the next 3 years and STILL take Conor to school without breaking a sweat.

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Post by Derbymanc Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:43 pm

Someone should get hold of Vinnie Mac and tell him to have the next Royal Rumble be 15 Conor fans vs 15 Mayweather fans with the eventual winner facing off at wrestlemania against the opponent of their choice.

Or ORrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

survivor series main event should be mayweather and his team of 4 fans against Conor and 4 of his fans and depending on who's tagged in (legally) depends on the discipline (mma for Conor, Boxing for May)

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:49 pm

EX7EY you like a few of the other boxing fans come across quite frustrated. Your argument/s for Floyd winning seems to revolve around or descend into insulting McGregor's fans like they are some sort of definable entity. That is fairly illogical to me.

Maybe this is because there isn't much evidence out there to actually assess how well or badly McGregor will do. Personally though I do think McGregor will surprise a lot of people mainly down to his bullet proof self belief and the fact that he has been fighting and boxing all his life. Not that it really matters that much but Malignaggi also admitted to losing the first sparring session too. McGregor KO round 3.

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Post by LionsV2 Tue 08 Aug 2017, 2:49 pm

This EX7EY guy talks sense OK

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Post by AdamT Tue 08 Aug 2017, 3:03 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
AdamT wrote:I think Conor is class, but his fans are irrational knuckle draggers.

Lol, you basically just called yourself a knuckle dragger by admitting you are a McGregor fan.

Not really, my posts show I have some understanding of combat sports. McGregor fans (nut jobs that only follow him) think he can beat the best boxer of the last 15-20 years!!

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Post by EX7EY Tue 08 Aug 2017, 3:05 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:EX7EY you like a few of the other boxing fans come across quite frustrated. Your argument/s for Floyd winning seems to revolve around or descend into insulting McGregor's fans like they are some sort of definable entity. That is fairly illogical to me.

Maybe this is because there isn't much evidence out there to actually assess how well or badly McGregor will do. Personally though I do think McGregor will surprise a lot of people mainly down to his bullet proof self belief and the fact that he has been fighting and boxing all his life. McGregor KO round 3.

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NO! Insulting Conors fans is just because after months and months of reading nonsense I've had enough of it now.

And your line about Conor winning because he has 'bullet proof self belief and he's been fighting and boxing all his life' is just absolutely nonsensical. You don't think Manny Pacquiao and the rest before him have been BOXING all their lives and have immense self belief?

You're bonkers mate.

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