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Post by George Carlin Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:35 pm

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NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS  
24 June 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
Eden Park, Auckland

Live on [Sky Sports HD]

Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

38 Played 38
29 Won 6
3 Drawn 3
6 Lost 29
634 Points 345

B. Recent Form

9 July 2005
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 19 to New Zealand

2 July 2005
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
48 – 18 to New Zealand

25 June 2005
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
21 – 3 to New Zealand

3 July 1993
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 13 to New Zealand

26 June 1993
Athletic Park, Wellington
7 – 20 to British & Irish Lions

12 June 1993
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
20 – 18 to New Zealand

16 July 1983
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 6 to New Zealand

2 July 1983
Carisbrook, Dunedin
15 – 8 to New Zealand

18 June 1983
Athletic Park (Wellington), Wellington
9 – 0 to New Zealand

4 June 1983
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
16 – 12 to New Zealand

C. TEAMS:

NEW ZEALAND
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01. Joe Moody (25)
02. Codie Taylor (16)
03. Owen Franks (91)
04. Brodie Retallick (61)
05. Samuel Whitelock (85)
06. Jerome Kaino (78)
07. Sam Cane (41)
08. Kieran Read (97)

09. Aaron Smith (59)
10. Beauden Barrett (50)
11. Rieko Ioane (2)
12. Sonny Bill Williams (34)
13. Ryan Crotty (26)
14. Israel Dagg (62)
15. Ben Smith (61)

16. Nathan Harris (5)
17. Wyatt Crockett (59)
18. Charlie Faumuina (47)
19. Scott Barrett (5)
20. Ardie Savea (13)
21. TJ Perenara (30)
22. Aaron Cruden (47) / Lima Sopoaga (7)
23. Anton Lienert-Brown (10)

BRITISH & IRISH LIONS  
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15. Liam Williams – Scarlets, Wales, #833
14. Anthony Watson – Bath Rugby, England, #816
13. Jonathan Davies – Scarlets, Wales, #778
12. Ben Te’o – Worcester Warriors, England, #815
11. Elliot Daly – Wasps, England, #822
10. Owen Farrell – Saracens, England, #780
09. Conor Murray – Munster, Ireland, #790

01. Mako Vunipola – Saracens, England, #787
02. Jamie George – Saracens, England, #819
03. Tadhg Furlong – Leinster, Ireland, #818
04. Alun Wyn Jones – Ospreys, Wales, #761
05. George Kruis – Saracens, England, #817
06. Peter O’Mahony (capt) – Munster, Ireland, #832
07. Sean O’Brien – Leinster, Ireland, #796
08. Taulupe Faletau – Bath Rugby, Wales, #779

16. Ken Owens – Scarlets, Wales, #829
17. Jack McGrath – Leinster, Ireland, #827
18. Kyle Sinckler – Harlequins, England, #814
19. Maro Itoje – Saracens, England, #825
20. Sam Warburton – Cardiff Blues, Wales, #800
21. Rhys Webb – Ospreys, Wales, #820
22. Johnny Sexton – Leinster, Ireland, #791
23. Leigh Halfpenny – Toulon, Wales, #775


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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:10 am

RiscaGame wrote:There it is. An AWJ mistake and cue the criticism. No mention of Kruis getting stripped though. Interesting.

My thoughts exactly. The English just can't get behind the concept. Another knock-on by an English player (Daly) - dare I say it would North have scored corner had he started?!

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Post by eirebilly Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:10 am

Ooh Liam Williams could have been away there.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:11 am

yappysnap wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Not much leadership on display from POM so far when the chips are down. Contrast that to Read who is gathering his troops and speaking to them at every opportunity.

Isn't experienced and leadership exactly why AWJ is in the team?! Or touring at all...


Still waiting to see its effect.

He isn't captain though. That's POMs job. Amazing that you turn this comment around to slate AWJ. Obsessed doesn't even sum it up.

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:11 am

ABs not faultless - Lions getting chances but just not able to finish them...

Getting back into it though . Come on Farrell ...yes ! 10-3

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:12 am

AWJ was a sentimental call from a Wales coach for a Welsh player...no way he should have been starting today but that's just my opinion...if he was adding the experience and leadership then I could partly understand but even that isn't noticable at the moment...

Regards the ref; we should have been preparing for it all tour...knew if we had particular refs for the games then it would go differently..the AB's taking advantage of it just as we would if we had a Northern Hemesphire ref slowing game down continously. The penalities we have given can be argued as soft but players have given ref the chance to call them...

Another case of poor distribution/handling from Lions there....another chance goes....simply have to take them when they come..


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Post by Breadvan Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:12 am

You on the touchline mikey? Wink Kruis was asking to be stripped, far to loose with the ball in one hand. Decent spell by the Lions but need to be far more clinical..
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Post by JmD Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:13 am

RiscaGame wrote:There it is. An AWJ mistake and cue the criticism. No mention of Kruis getting stripped though. Interesting.

Kruis actually has some goodwill built up by earning his place in the starting team. AWJ didn't deserve the start in the first place, of course he'll be subject to more stringent criticism.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:13 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:There it is. An AWJ mistake and cue the criticism. No mention of Kruis getting stripped though. Interesting.

My thoughts exactly. The English just can't get behind the concept. Another knock-on by an English player (Daly) - dare I say it would North have scored corner had he started?!

Oh do **** off you tiresome little swine.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:14 am

All Blacks are best in the world, and that includes cheating. Fair play to them as you have to be streetwise. You can't expect the referee to give you the decisions.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:15 am

It's just a bit sad that people will watch a game willing somebody to make mistakes. Try focussing on other players too. Personally think AWJ has done ok, that knock on aside.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:15 am

You can see why George doesn't start at int level, he's blowing and turning into a bit of a liability.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:16 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:There it is. An AWJ mistake and cue the criticism. No mention of Kruis getting stripped though. Interesting.

My thoughts exactly. The English just can't get behind the concept. Another knock-on by an English player (Daly) - dare I say it would North have scored corner had he started?!

Oh do **** off you tiresome little swine.

Spends a lifetime on here slagging Welsh off players; can't accept the reality of the situation or handle criticism of his own players let alone give it out.

Forums aren't for angry little men who can't handle the truth. Get behind the Lions concept for once.

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:16 am

Seymour would have scored that in the corner
Maitland would have given that pass to Williams (who would have been Hogg, so would have shouted louder and got the pass)
Russell would have created 20 tried by now
Jonny Gray would have stripped every AB and scores 7 tries by now

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

Liam Williams take a bow, WOW.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

That. Was. Awesome!

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

What. A. Try.

Take a bow Liam

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

Yesss!!!!

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Post by eirebilly Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

Liam Williams you absolute feican superstar. That was brilliant thumbsup
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:You can see why George doesn't start at int level, he's blowing and turning into a bit of a liability.

Still looks groggy after that hit. He does seem to do better for England as an impact player

On that note what a try from the Lions!

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Post by Breadvan Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:18 am

Magnificent. Williams you star...
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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:18 am

Wonderful try Yahoo

Liam Williams brilliant clap O'Brien finishes neatly

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:19 am

Williams brilliant, Daly superb on that little jink in and out

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:19 am

Great play from Daly too. Doubt North could have pulled it off on current form Wink. #consistency

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:19 am

What a true Lions try! Wales, Ireland and England combine for a cracker

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:19 am

No matter how many times you watch NZ....still can never quite fathom just how they become so incredible with the offloads. A thing of absolute beauty...add to that they seem to make an extra 2-3 meters after each hit and its just amazing...

Fantastic try!! Get in!

Brilliant from Williams....excellent composure from Daly...Davies lovely offload to O'Brian!

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Post by RiscaGame Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:20 am

Thought Sanjay would get scragged in his 22, fair play

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Post by 123456789 Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:21 am

Not a big Williams fan, not a big Gatland fan, not a big Wales fan and I'd take Hogg nine times out of ten but my god Hogg would have to be at his absolute best to justify selection ahead of Williams.

Fair play Gatland.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:22 am

Is ref reffing just the one team for offside or what? Saying that the Lions look too static in both defence and attack.

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:22 am

Fantastic first half ! Worth waiting for thumbsup

This could go anywhere after the break...

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:23 am

123456789 wrote:Not a big Williams fan, not a big Gatland fan, not a big Wales fan and I'd take Hogg nine times out of ten but my god Hogg would have to be at his absolute best to justify selection ahead of Williams.

Fair play Gatland.

+1 I just don't understand why Williams was at wing through the 6N. Wales could have turned some more games over with him at FB - formidable attack.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:23 am

If we keep in touch and it comes down to benches, this could be very interesting.

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Post by marty2086 Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:25 am

Ineffable wrote:
123456789 wrote:Not a big Williams fan, not a big Gatland fan, not a big Wales fan and I'd take Hogg nine times out of ten but my god Hogg would have to be at his absolute best to justify selection ahead of Williams.

Fair play Gatland.

+1 I just don't understand why Williams was at wing through the 6N. Wales could have turned some more games over with him at FB - formidable attack.

Because Halfpenny...

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:26 am

marty2086 wrote:
Ineffable wrote:
123456789 wrote:Not a big Williams fan, not a big Gatland fan, not a big Wales fan and I'd take Hogg nine times out of ten but my god Hogg would have to be at his absolute best to justify selection ahead of Williams.

Fair play Gatland.

+1 I just don't understand why Williams was at wing through the 6N. Wales could have turned some more games over with him at FB - formidable attack.

Because Halfpenny...

Laugh madness isn't it

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:28 am

RiscaGame wrote:If we keep in touch and it comes down to benches, this could be very interesting.

Indeed . Especially with NZ having two players already gone with injuries...

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Post by 123456789 Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:32 am

Ineffable wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
Ineffable wrote:
123456789 wrote:Not a big Williams fan, not a big Gatland fan, not a big Wales fan and I'd take Hogg nine times out of ten but my god Hogg would have to be at his absolute best to justify selection ahead of Williams.

Fair play Gatland.

+1 I just don't understand why Williams was at wing through the 6N. Wales could have turned some more games over with him at FB - formidable attack.

Because Halfpenny...

Laugh madness isn't it

Their next back three player is Cuthbert, who does a minority of things required to be an international at a barely acceptable standard.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:34 am

Have to say, doing much better than I thought we would. Still think NZ may just move through the gears 2nd half...but as mentioned if we can keep in touch for first 15 mins of it then you never know...

Barely got a mention, but the catch from Watson was outstanding and pivotal in the game too.

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:35 am

Get Itoje on and let's ramp up the physicality back at them

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:36 am

Was a penalty, but worth it to show them we can put them on their arse

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:36 am

Nice tackle

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:39 am

Lions have great attacking players, think it started back at the lineout steal from POM.

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:39 am

That's poor at the line out

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Post by eirebilly Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:39 am

Everything good in attack is coming through Williams, JD2 and Daly.
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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:41 am

Sorry Scott, I don't want to see any more of Anthony Watson opening his legs

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:41 am

Williams keeps slicing the AB defence apart. ...

But they just can't finish these moves steam

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:42 am

Frak sake!! Keep hold of the frigging ball! How hard is it...!!

And now Watson loses his head when he just has to keep the ball...!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 am

eirebilly wrote:Everything good in attack is coming through Williams, JD2 and Daly.

And Watson. Te'o seems to be causing them problems too.

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 am

Yes Maro!

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Post by alfie Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:44 am

Let us see what Itoje can do now...

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:45 am

Maro certainly looks up for this!

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Post by 123456789 Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:45 am

Time for Itoje to show that he really is on the path to greatness.

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