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RWC 2019 - Backup plan ?

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Post by No9 Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:11 pm

With Japan slipping on the preparations to be ready for 2019, anyone know if there are any backup options.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/41303997

Just to add, I fully expect them to recover any slippages, but any good project will have milestones you check progress by and at some point you have to consider alternatives. One alternative for a tournament like this could be relocation, but that in itself would be a massive undertaking and as such there would have to be some serious failings.

Just wondered what the Plan B would be....

(Of course, Kim Jong-un and Trump may still force a cancelation of RWC 2019...)

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Post by BamBam Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:02 pm

England could probably hold it on a few weeks notice

Obviously Wales would host the games they were due to as part of the Japan tournament


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Post by Rugby Fan Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:36 pm

There ought to be some kind of plan, because Japan is prone to earthquakes and typhoons, which can disrupt infrastructure. Can't recall an event being relocated for such a reason but it's always a possibility.

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Post by No9 Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:00 pm

BamBam wrote:England could probably hold it on a few weeks notice

Obviously Wales would host the games they were due to as part of the Japan tournament


As I said, I expect Japan to recover any slips and be ready, by hook or by crook..

But I was thinking, what if it had to be relocated. That would be massive. Ok, not considering all the jokes that will come of this. But England, Wales, Ireland, Scotland could easily host as a joint venture if a plan B (relocation) was needed. But the impact on support would be immense. New hotels, flights, etc, for both teams and fans at relatively short notice, would be a nightmare.

I fear, if the worst happened, the IRB would be more likely to cancel the tournament (that year) rather than relocate at short notice.

Which goes back to my point. Checkpoints are taken to ensure progress, and plan to recover slippage. But surly if relocation has to be done, we must be very close to the deadline for that call.

Tricky one eh!!!


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Post by No9 Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:01 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:There ought to be some kind of plan, because Japan is prone to earthquakes and typhoons, which can disrupt infrastructure. Can't recall an event being relocated for such a reason but it's always a possibility.


or falling N Korean missiles... furious

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Post by BamBam Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:41 pm

To be fair, every Olympics in my lifetime has apparently been delayed and always managed to start on time, I don't imagine this will be much different

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Post by Gwlad Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:11 am

This is such a non thread...Japan...not ready on time...what a crock. They will deliver the best RWC any of us will ever see.

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Post by Rugby Fan Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:14 am

Gwlad wrote:This is such a non thread...Japan...not ready on time...what a crock. They will deliver the best RWC any of us will ever see.
Japan is already behind schedule in an unrecoverable way. The final was due to take place in a rebuilt national stadium in the centre of Tokyo. Complaints about the cost forced a delay, and it now won't be ready for the RWC. Instead, the final will take place in Yokohama. Since it's a smaller stadium, ticket income will be lower than projected.

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:46 am

Doesnt really matter really if ticket income will be less. World Rugby still get their fee up front and the Japanese govt will have had to guarantee that amount.

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Post by marty2086 Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:54 am

Rugby Fan wrote:There ought to be some kind of plan, because Japan is prone to earthquakes and typhoons, which can disrupt infrastructure. Can't recall an event being relocated for such a reason but it's always a possibility.

Japanese buildings are built to withstand earthquakes

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Post by BamBam Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:57 am

Rugby Fan wrote:
Gwlad wrote:This is such a non thread...Japan...not ready on time...what a crock. They will deliver the best RWC any of us will ever see.
Japan is already behind schedule in an unrecoverable way. The final was due to take place in a rebuilt national stadium in the centre of Tokyo. Complaints about the cost forced a delay, and it now won't be ready for the RWC. Instead, the final will take place in Yokohama. Since it's a smaller stadium, ticket income will be lower than projected.

Inaccurate, uninformed, hyperbolic twaddle. How very Gwlad

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Post by Rugby Fan Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:30 pm

marty2086 wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:There ought to be some kind of plan, because Japan is prone to earthquakes and typhoons, which can disrupt infrastructure. Can't recall an event being relocated for such a reason but it's always a possibility.

Japanese buildings are built to withstand earthquakes
The Building Code changes to reflect damage done by major quakes. The biggest revision was 1981, and it's fair to say that new construction since then has incorporated some of the best thinking in the world. However, new revisions to the code were made in 1995, 2000 and 2009. There are a lot of buildings which don't satisfy those standards. Also, the 2009 revision reflected discoveries that some construction companies had been falsifying data, which adds another layer of uncertainty.

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