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Post by Pot Hale Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:05 am

First topic message reminder :

I’ve always thought that England are a very good team and their fans are lovely and the most popular.

Feel free to add your own thoughts as we approach next weekend’s match as we travel over to visit them and celebrate with them.  And I’m sure that they’ll be as welcoming and fun-filled as they always are whenever we play them.  

As we all know, it’s only a game and sure it doesn’t matter who wins.....


Lovely England Team

Watson, May, Joseph, Te'o, Daly, Farrell, Wigglesworth, Simmonds, Haskell, Robshaw, Kruis, Itoje, Sinckler, Hartley, Mako

George, MArler, Cole, Launchbury, Armand, Care, Ford, Brown

Super Controlling Unbelievable Mauling Monster Yeti Irish Team

Kearney, Earls, Ringrose, Aki, Stockdale, Sexton Murray, Stander, Leavy, O'Mahony, Ryan, Henderson, Furlong, Best, Healy.

Reps: Cronin, McGrath, Porter, Toner, Murphy, Marmion, Carbery, Larmour.


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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:08 pm

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eirebilly wrote:Earls, you try saver clap

Great tap - but player in after dived straight on top of player on the ground ...

Looked like Kearney's knee made contact with Daly's head. No malice but if refereeing on the outcome (see Daly's penalty for neck role) then a penalty could and possibly should have been awarded to England.
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Post by Exiledinborders Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:08 pm

kingelderfield wrote:I want to be wrong but I don't see us coming back from this.
If you are playing a team allowed to knock on to score twice, shoulder charge you in the face and drop mauls in front of their line and not concede penalty tries you are certainly right.

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Post by tatterd Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:09 pm

English front row schooled

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:09 pm

We haven't really offered a lot. As I predicted its a very predictable attack.

Subs required now.

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Post by tatterd Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:10 pm

Lol if any English have the temerity to have a go at the Welsh for ref bashing I shall refer them to this thread. Hilarious

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:11 pm

I'm keen to see Armand on the field.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:14 pm

Care Ford George Armand all need to come on now

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:15 pm

tatterd wrote:Lol if any English have the temerity to have a go at the Welsh for ref bashing I shall refer them to this thread. Hilarious

Very Happy

They should try Glen Jackson before bashing this ref Wink.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:15 pm

what was wrong with Farrell holding up the ball carrier, Ireland have been trying to do that for the last 5 years
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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:16 pm

tatterd wrote:Lol if any English have the temerity to have a go at the Welsh for ref bashing I shall refer them to this thread. Hilarious

How very dare you, back over the dyke you heaven!

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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:16 pm

Larmour to 13 Shocked
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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:17 pm

Daly to succeed Brown

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:19 pm

you can clearly see brown release, this refs bank account needs looking into
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:19 pm

Hartley s had a good game today. I know the emphasis has been on the back row but it's the loss of form in our locks and the loss of youngs which had really cost us this tournament.


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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:20 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:you can clearly see brown release, this refs bank account needs looking into

Well he didn't release at all and are you now insinuating that Ireland have bought this ref?
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:20 pm

There's been nothing too bad in the officials mistakes happen. England have made more error s and that's why we're now battling against a tide.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:21 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:you can clearly see brown release, this refs bank account needs looking into

Yep, neck roll on Farrell missed off the ball too
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Post by RDW Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:24 pm

Some huge hits from Ireland - defence has been superb

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Post by tigertattie Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Will Eddie Jones get his marching orders after today?
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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:26 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hartley s had a good game today. I know the emphasis has been on the back row but it's the loss of form in our locks and the loss of Lawes (i presume) which had really cost us this tournament.

Not just the 2nd row, but their diminished contribution is noticeable.

At least the BR has not let us down in the is game! Only our limited half backs have compensated for that!

Get Launchbury and Armand on now

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Very very good rdw. Shame we didn't see the 2 playmakers til late in the game. It's proved successful and I'd suggest it'll be back next game. Andy Farrell proving his worth again.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Very good try for Daly and England. I am always worried when Ireland try to defend leads.
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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:26 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hartley s had a good game today. I know the emphasis has been on the back row but it's the loss of form in our locks and the loss of Lawes (i presume) which had really cost us this tournament.

Not just the 2nd row, but their diminished contribution is noticeable.

At least the BR has not let us down in the is game! Only our limited half backs have compensated for that!

Get Launchbury and Armand on now

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Post by tatterd Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Fair do's great handoff and pass by brown

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Farrell is a rubbish goal kicker

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Lack of 2 playmaker s will cause us problems king. I think jones wantedDaly more involved for that reason. It hasn't panned out like that

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Post by Pal Joey Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Ref missed the little England hand there.

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Post by RDW Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Another England try in the next 5 minutes would make things interesting..

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:28 pm

Farrell is a rubbish goal kicker!

Don Armand take a bow

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:28 pm

Farrell goes directly to boot when should keep in hand

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:30 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Another England try in the next 5 minutes would make things interesting..


Do you have money in that wallet?

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:30 pm

Knock on their by the Irishman in the Daly mix up, again not spotted
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:31 pm

eirebilly wrote:
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:you can clearly see brown release, this refs bank account needs looking into

Well he didn't release at all and are you now insinuating that Ireland have bought this ref?

Well he’s wrong because Ireland could only afford to buy Glen Jackson.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:31 pm

How many rucks does Earls hit in a game? A brilliant player.
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Post by RDW Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:31 pm

That was so stupid from Marler. Could maybe even argue a yellow for a deliberate late hit.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:31 pm

there not their
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:32 pm

That's about 70 min and 24 seconds too late for our locks.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:33 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Lack of 2 playmaker s will cause us problems king. I think jones wantedDaly more involved for that reason. It hasn't panned out like that

Daly is not an IC, OC Wing or FB

However Ford could have played without Farrell today given he's the better 10

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Post by RDW Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:35 pm

Care taking a quick tap nowhere near the mark!

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:35 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Lack of 2 playmaker s will cause us problems king. I think jones wantedDaly more involved for that reason. It hasn't panned out like that

Daly is not an IC, OC Wing or FB

However Ford could have played without Farrell today given he's the better 10

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:35 pm

You want Daly dropped then I assume. At international level I'm a strong believer you need 2 playmaker s. We have some very good ones so I'm not too concerned whether it's ford Farrell or some combo with a slade or even mallinder at 15 should jones and Gustard think he's ready.


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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:36 pm

Shame for earls. Hope he can stick around for the bubbly. Or the black stuff which is serving me well!


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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:36 pm

If a tackler rips the ball back, is it a knock on?
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Post by Heaf Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:36 pm

That was ripped not knocked on surely?

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:37 pm

But Farrell might, not unreasonably, have felt it was a free play, then the ref called advantage over MUCH quicker than in the extended play leading up to the Irish pen. When your luck's out, your luck's out. And now Ringrose has shouldered Daly flagrantly in the head as secpond tackler = no arms whatsoever. WTF????

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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:37 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:You want Daly dropped then I assume.  At international level I'm a strong believer you need 2 playmaker s.  We have some very good ones so I'm not too concerned whether it's ford Farrell or some bimbo with a slade or even mallinder at 15 should jones and Gustard think he's ready.

For me, Daly at FB or wing is a no brainer at international level. The guy is proper quality.
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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:37 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:You want Daly dropped then I assume.  At international level I'm a strong believer you need 2 playmaker s.  We have some very good ones so I'm not too concerned whether it's ford Farrell or some bimbo with a slade or even mallinder at 15 should jones and Gustard think he's ready.

You know my selection because I have the confidence to post one. Daly FB

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Post by kingelderfield Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:39 pm

At least the ref has been consistently awful

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Post by eirebilly Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:40 pm

For me, Ryan should be man of the match. He was incredible in defence for Ireland.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:40 pm

Ah sorry. Misread that post as a sentence saying he's not any. I'd agree he's not an inside centre but I think he was seem as having enough about him to come in and play that role as someone like ben smith does. It's not happened today.

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