Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

by **George Carlin** Thu 05 Apr 2018, 5:42 pm

First topic message reminder :

Rumours are that I want to move to another company because my boss is an @rse.

And there's something to those rumours, I can assure you.

by mikey_dragon Thu 31 May 2018, 7:59 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:Carbery to Munster for 3 years seems to have some legs

Why not Ulster? They’ve let go of a fly-half where as Munster are just stocked up with average ones.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 31 May 2018, 9:14 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
geoff999rugby wrote:Carbery to Munster for 3 years seems to have some legs

Why not Ulster? They’ve let go of a fly-half where as Munster are just stocked up with average ones.

I presume Carberry fancied playing behind the Munster pack more than the Ulster one. Will a Munster flyhalf head north?

by Welly Thu 31 May 2018, 9:17 pm

Keatley is rumoured up north.

JJ also rumoured to france.

by Fluxy Mon 04 Jun 2018, 11:19 am

Andries Coetzee about to sign up for Toulon.

by formerly known as Sam Mon 04 Jun 2018, 1:00 pm

Fluxy wrote:Andries Coetzee about to sign up for Toulon.

Ouch. The Lions being burgled this summer. Won't have a team soon.

by Fluxy Fri 08 Jun 2018, 10:45 am

Nizaam Carr heading back to the Ricoh next season.

by Bathite Sat 09 Jun 2018, 6:04 am

Massive signing. Him Hughes and Shields is a decent back row

by yappysnap Sat 09 Jun 2018, 7:44 am

Carr is quality, where was he at?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2018, 8:53 am

Stormers??

by formerly known as Sam Sat 09 Jun 2018, 12:47 pm

Bathite wrote:Massive signing. Him Hughes and Shields is a decent back row

I imagine it'll be two of the three combining with Thomas Young. Need an openside with the way Wasps play.

by **RiscaGame** Sat 09 Jun 2018, 3:13 pm

Anybody heard that Bath are trying to sign Josh McInally?

by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Jun 2018, 12:46 pm

I suspect that would depend on the future of Attwood. His loan deal is done so you'd assume he'd return to Bath and join Stooke, Charteris and Ewels which is a good combination in options.

by SirBurger Sun 10 Jun 2018, 6:39 pm

RiscaGame wrote:Anybody heard that Bath are trying to sign Josh McInally?

They can seriously do one.

by Hazel Sapling Tue 12 Jun 2018, 11:14 am

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/northampton-snap-up-waratahs-wing/

Kellaway to Northampton.

Took 2 of the Waratahs back 3. Folau next?

by formerly known as Sam Tue 12 Jun 2018, 4:36 pm

Saints do need a fullback with Foden gone. Doubt they've got funds for Folau.

by propdavid_london Tue 12 Jun 2018, 5:26 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44456070

Quins general manager

by thebandwagonsociety Tue 12 Jun 2018, 6:59 pm

Leinster sign Joe Tomane from Montpelier(?)
Strange signing, I'd have thought there was enough depth in the centres and the potential to bring through some of the academy lads.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 12 Jun 2018, 9:13 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:Leinster sign Joe Tomane from Montpelier(?)
Strange signing, I'd have thought there was enough depth in the centres and the potential to bring through some of the academy lads.

Experienced player that won't disappear on international duty. Can play centre and wing. Isa Nacewa covered a lot of positions for the entire season. Tomane has a good record with try scoring. I think a few teams would have liked to be able to add him to their squad.

by Fluxy Tue 12 Jun 2018, 10:04 pm

Falcons have signed England U20 player Josh Basham from Irish

by Welly Tue 12 Jun 2018, 10:17 pm

Is that confirmed?

I heard he's going to Durham but also heard he is doing uni full time.

by Margin_Walker Tue 12 Jun 2018, 10:32 pm

Not confirmed on Basham.

More a case of the Rugby pass writer trying to put 2 and 2 together with no definitive inside knowledge. Good chance of being right, but wouldn't bet the house on it.

by **George Carlin** Wed 13 Jun 2018, 9:59 am

I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun 2018, 11:32 am

George Carlin wrote:I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.

Yep and just as that is confirmed Wasps also confirm the signing of Brookes. That's a double smack in the mouth for Wasps fans then...

by WELL-PAST-IT Wed 13 Jun 2018, 12:17 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.

Yep and just as that is confirmed Wasps also confirm the signing of Brookes. That's a double smack in the mouth for Wasps fans then...

Certainly is if he plays, or more to the point doesn't play like he has for Saints this last year or so. Having said that, the last few times I saw him play he did improve and looked to be getting back to his old self, ball in hand anyway.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Jun 2018, 2:35 pm

Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun 2018, 4:17 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

I think the industrious pack let him get away with being a one in three player (takes part in one in every three phases). At a Saints team in need of players to stand up and be counted his work rate was found dead wanting and at Tigers when we had a decent pack his workrate was simply miles behind the likes of Cole and Castro. Plus his scrummaging has always been open to exploitation by technically strong looseheads. His ball carrying was always his big strength and Falcons were probably the best club at giving him a platform to use that.

by Welly Wed 13 Jun 2018, 7:04 pm

Brookes biggest achievement whilst at Tigers was eating a 4500 calorie Breakfast.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun 2018, 8:02 pm

Welly wrote:Brookes biggest achievement whilst at Tigers was eating a 4500 calorie Breakfast.

In a record time. They changed the name of the challenge in his honour.

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Jun 2018, 5:19 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

I think the industrious pack let him get away with being a one in three player (takes part in one in every three phases). At a Saints team in need of players to stand up and be counted his work rate was found dead wanting and at Tigers when we had a decent pack his workrate was simply miles behind the likes of Cole and Castro. Plus his scrummaging has always been open to exploitation by technically strong looseheads. His ball carrying was always his big strength and Falcons were probably the best club at giving him a platform to use that.

His work rate was excellent at Falcons, as was his scrummaging. He was never such a huge ball carrier though, not with us anyway. A team like Falcons (especially at the time) cannot afford to carry a player and we didn't with Brookes. You don't work your way through the Saxons into the England 23 by being lazy and having a low work rate.

by propdavid_london Thu 14 Jun 2018, 4:43 pm

Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

by **George Carlin** Mon 18 Jun 2018, 12:58 pm

Danny Wilson to Scotland as forwards coach has now been confirmed.

Good piece of business by the SRU, that. He and Townsend get on very well indeed.

by Fluxy Mon 18 Jun 2018, 1:03 pm

Julian Savea to Toulon confirmed.

by **LondonTiger** Mon 18 Jun 2018, 1:27 pm

propdavid_london wrote:Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

I guess Wasps have a vacancy now.

by formerly known as Sam Mon 18 Jun 2018, 3:54 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
propdavid_london wrote:Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

I guess Wasps have a vacancy now.

The commute from Hinckley to Coventry is pretty close.

by **LondonTiger** Mon 18 Jun 2018, 4:43 pm

by Fluxy Thu 21 Jun 2018, 3:41 pm

The Bears have signed George Smith on a six month contract for next season.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 21 Jun 2018, 7:52 pm

Fluxy wrote:The Bears have signed George Smith on a six month contract for next season.

Mainly to cover injuries. Great experience to have around the place and someone to add to the leadership group.

by Geordie Fri 22 Jun 2018, 11:28 am

That's quality having someone like Smith around.

by Fluxy Tue 26 Jun 2018, 9:40 am

Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 26 Jun 2018, 12:01 pm

Fluxy wrote:Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Tigers also linked with Tongan prop currently playing in France.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 26 Jun 2018, 2:59 pm

Johan Van Rensburg signs for Sale on three year deal. Tasty looking backline at Sale for next season with de Klerk, McGinty, Yarde, Van Rensburg, James, Solomona and O'Connor. Just need to sort out the tight five.

by marty2086 Tue 26 Jun 2018, 3:29 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Baffles me that Ulster haven't made a move for him especially now given they will have maybe 3 options available to start the season at centre

by **George Carlin** Tue 26 Jun 2018, 3:56 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Fluxy wrote:Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Tigers also linked with Tongan prop currently playing in France.

by Welly Tue 26 Jun 2018, 5:12 pm

marty2086 wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Baffles me that Ulster haven't made a move for him especially now given they will have maybe 3 options availabl to start the season at centre

Couldn't see him moving to Ireland anyway.

He's EQP now which doesn't mean much for his international chances, but it does mean he is worth even more as a player in the Premiership.

by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2018, 9:26 pm

Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2018, 8:58 am

The Oracle wrote:Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

Same players different coaches isn't it, which I imagine is probably the issue.

by **Rugby Fan** Wed 27 Jun 2018, 10:08 am

Ashton to Sale

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ashton-nearing-dramatic-premiership-return

by thebandwagonsociety Wed 27 Jun 2018, 11:21 am

The Oracle wrote:Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

It has the look of Felipe looking to build back up his CV. He was talking about Lancaster in the interviews and there will be exposure to Schmidt, Farrell and Easterby through the national coaching ticket interactions.
Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing a bit of a post-grad while over here as well cos he got his medical qualification when he was playing here before.

He was a mercurial sort of player and hopefully gives expanded options to players in his approach (time will tell). Lancaster will continue with his calm in chaos routine and Cullen will try and keep the hardened edge in the pack. It will be an interesting dynamic (to think the Sexton rein effectively began when Felipe blew out his knee in that '09 semi final).

by SecretFly Wed 27 Jun 2018, 12:56 pm

Contepomi might prove an addition to the coaching unit and then again, it might be the coaching position where he proves he's not good enough for this Leinster side, with all their vaunted ambitions to stay close to the top. So it's a risk for Contepomi as Leinster have exacting standards (Mr O'Connor we're looking at you Wink

)..and of course a risk for Leinster.

The coach I'll be interested in keeping tabs on is the coach that left, Girvan Dempsey. Going by his coaching career to date, it might seem that he is one of the less personally ambitious coaches out there - forever the hidden man operating behind the coaching 'stars'. And perhaps that's what has finally prompted him to move to Bath. He might have realised that all his good work was potentially getting clouded out by the heaps of praise being put on Lancaster's shoulders for the rejuvenation of Leinster.

I'd probably simply think that Leinster needed a few years to suck up the new regimes both at Pro12/14 level and at European Levels. They worked through their processes, worked out their coaches and players and steadily brought the ship back to full speed through the few years. Lancaster has played his part but maybe his part is oversold a tad given that Leinster didn't exactly fall asunder in their 'down' period, even when he wasn't there.

So I'll be watching Girvan Dempsey to see how much of Leinster attack was him and how much was Lancaster. It might prove painful watching if it's the former given we have Bath in the European pool Whistle

by thebandwagonsociety Wed 27 Jun 2018, 1:26 pm

SecretFly wrote:Contepomi might prove an addition to the coaching unit and then again, it might be the coaching position where he proves he's not good enough for this Leinster side, with all their vaunted ambitions to stay close to the top. So it's a risk for Contepomi as Leinster have exacting standards (Mr O'Connor we're looking at you )..and of course a risk for Leinster.

The coach I'll be interested in keeping tabs on is the coach that left, Girvan Dempsey. Going by his coaching career to date, it might seem that he is one of the less personally ambitious coaches out there - forever the hidden man operating behind the coaching 'stars'. And perhaps that's what has finally prompted him to move to Bath. He might have realised that all his good work was potentially getting clouded out by the heaps of praise being put on Lancaster's shoulders for the rejuvenation of Leinster.

I'd probably simply think that Leinster needed a few years to suck up the new regimes both at Pro12/14 level and at European Levels. They worked through their processes, worked out their coaches and players and steadily brought the ship back to full speed through the few years. Lancaster has played his part but maybe his part is oversold a tad given that Leinster didn't exactly fall asunder in their 'down' period, even when he wasn't there.

So I'll be watching Girvan Dempsey to see how much of Leinster attack was him and how much was Lancaster. It might prove painful watching if it's the former given we have Bath in the European pool

It will give plenty of extra intrigue to the pool games between the two sides.

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