Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

by McLaren Wed 23 May 2018, 13:29

First topic message reminder :

kwinigolfer wrote:
McLaren wrote:Kwini

I reckon Harry has scored a double eagle.

She's a weird looking bird, more a bogey I'd say.

Kwini, you have very high standards. I seem to remember you thought Lexi was a bit of a minger.

by wiretapper Tue 28 Aug 2018, 14:25

McLaren wrote: Unless you are on the megabucks of folks like super_realist getting access to all the TV sports subscriptions is pretty much unaffordable. How much would it cost per month to get sky, BT, prime and that new one the PGA was on?

I pay -

£55 per month for all Sky including sports, movies, box sets etc

£0 for BT Sport as I have BT internet but that deal ends in April and from then it'll be £27.99 per month but I'll negotiate that down

£80 per year for Amazon Prime - again, you get much more than just sports for that.

£50 per year for Eleven Sports. I took the full year because I watch Italian football, particularly Milan (it's a long story) however the poor coverage is making me wish I didn't. You can get it for £5.99 per month.

Opening the market has only made it more expensive for me

by raycastleunited Tue 28 Aug 2018, 14:55

pedro wrote:Could have been 5-0. Defence looks dodgy, midfield shallow. Pogba is still not the player everybody wants him to be.

Suprised Alli didn’t dive when De Gea tried to tackle him after Lindelofs blunder...

Was also really surprised Dele stayed on his feet. Maybe he's been given a talking to about the reputation he was building?

Bizarrely, Man U could have won that game. Could have easily gone in at HT 1-0 up and then parked the bus 2nd half and played on the break. Spurs were so clinical compared to Man U, and then very professional once they had the lead. Man U had no idea how to break Spurs down when they sat back.

I actually understood the point Jose was trying to make. I love it when he throws a strop, Premier league is richer with his panto storyline.

by pedro Tue 28 Aug 2018, 15:01

Speaking of. Wenger and Jose in their own words:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yT22q_BbsaM

by Diggers Tue 28 Aug 2018, 15:39

McLaren wrote:Diggers

Have you not got a smart TV? You can use all online stuff like Prime, Netflix, Now etc on them. Or if you have a ps4 (and I assume xbox) you can download the same apps. If you have skygo+ you can also get that on a ps4.

Unless you are on the megabucks of folks like super_realist getting access to all the TV sports subscriptions is pretty much unaffordable. How much would it cost per month to get sky, BT, prime and that new one the PGA was on?

I have a smart TV, a smart Blu Ray, an Apple TV that is smart and I can stream through from any of the phones or tablets that have all our video apps on. It’s just a bit more hassle than just having my Sky control and flicking through the channels. Just know it’s very much a first world problem, but there you go.

by Diggers Tue 28 Aug 2018, 15:48

raycastleunited wrote:
pedro wrote:Could have been 5-0. Defence looks dodgy, midfield shallow. Pogba is still not the player everybody wants him to be.

Suprised Alli didn’t dive when De Gea tried to tackle him after Lindelofs blunder...

Was also really surprised Dele stayed on his feet. Maybe he's been given a talking to about the reputation he was building?

Bizarrely, Man U could have won that game. Could have easily gone in at HT 1-0 up and then parked the bus 2nd half and played on the break. Spurs were so clinical compared to Man U, and then very professional once they had the lead. Man U had no idea how to break Spurs down when they sat back.

I actually understood the point Jose was trying to make. I love it when he throws a strop, Premier league is richer with his panto storyline.

I don’t see how the fact they could have gone one up means they might have won. They don’t look remotely capable of shutting up shop anymore, don’t have the players to do it. I’m not sure what they really do have the players do do right now, not brilliantly anyway. Jose has made the respect me point plenty of times, it’s old now (as is the whole pantomime act) and he’s a raving hypocrite anyway.

by raycastleunited Tue 28 Aug 2018, 16:41

It's all mights, coulds and shoulds. As Benitez would point out, I'm not dealing in facts. Man U might have gone 1-0 up, could have won the game. You're right that Spurs might have responded to being behind, but Man U did have more possession and more shots and I don't think the 3-0 scoreline reflected the balance of play.

Of course he's a massive hypocrite, but I still love the Jose panto act.

by McLaren Tue 28 Aug 2018, 16:46

Diggers

On my TV can set it up so that the streaming channels are available through the source button on the remote. I am sure you will be able to do the same, then you can just flick between normal tv and prime or netflix etc.

by Diggers Tue 28 Aug 2018, 16:55

I know how it works, Mac, Im not a technophobe, I worked in IT for 20 odd years. I’m just saying I’d rather it was all on my sky option rather than the online source which is (a bit) more of a faf.

by McLaren Tue 28 Aug 2018, 16:57

Thats what I am saying you can do, you can have a button on the remote that with one click you get to a streaming service.

by Diggers Tue 28 Aug 2018, 17:13

Which I have to set up and then do so for whatever plethora of services might be showing whatever I want to watch. We also have family account security settings on most of the streaming services, including Prine, as the kids use them more than we do.
If it was on Eurosport or Sky, just the rest of the tennis usually is, I wouldn’t have to think about any of that. Plus I have a problem with the whole concept so I’m being mildly obtuse about it.
I will watch it though, I’m just having a moan.

by Diggers Tue 28 Aug 2018, 18:41

Incredible, Dover’s only private pyshio gets deported because he couldn’t recruit another physiotherapist to increase his practice size. There really are some retarded people around.

by super_realist Wed 29 Aug 2018, 07:18

What was the basis for that decision Diggers? I doubt it was down to not having another Physio, but more to do with his collective income as a result of this.
Don't you have to earn a certain sum to be eligible to stay?

No disrespect, but Dover is a pretty grim place, surely he could open up elsewhere?

by Diggers Wed 29 Aug 2018, 08:55

He had to employ a set number of people as part of an entrepreneurial visa. They forced his practice to close while they reviewed his case so he then had no income, neither did the receptionists he employed. He’s ploughed all his money into setting up so presumably couldn’t just relocate (agree it’s a dump), also there is clearly a need in Dover which he helped fulfill.
Just a classic case of inflexible bureaucracy not seeing the bigger (and better) picture.

by super_realist Wed 29 Aug 2018, 17:40

Seems very harsh.
I'd much rather have a hard working foreigner than a feckless British ne'er do well in the country.

by westisbest Wed 29 Aug 2018, 19:09

Can’t remember who the Pompey fan on here is?
But you have got yourself a good player on loan till January at least.

Green is only 20. Done well at villa before his injury.
Really hoped he would have played, but with Bolasie, El Ghazi and preferring Adomah, won’t get much of a chance.

Hope he does well at Portsmouth.

I see they have stared well this season.

by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed 29 Aug 2018, 21:16

West, Kwini is the resident Pompey fan.

by NedB-H Wed 29 Aug 2018, 21:31

We don’t talk about League One on here right now....

by Diggers Wed 29 Aug 2018, 21:46

Excuse me, Ned. As a Sunderland fan we do indeed talk about League One. Second place behind the mighty Posh, howay the lads!

by NedB-H Wed 29 Aug 2018, 22:23

Can’t we just pretend it’s still last season? You can be in the Championship, and we can be promotion challengers instead of 23rd...

by Diggers Wed 29 Aug 2018, 22:39

Early days fella. I don’t really want to remember last year, I thought we’d hit rock bottom, apparently not. Plenty of time for this year to go pear shaped for us but at least it feels like a real fresh start.

by beninho Wed 29 Aug 2018, 22:43

Four league one team fans on this board. That must be the most followed league on the board! 1 win, 2 draws and 2 defeats, not abad start for Wycombe, its going to be a long hard season though.

by BlueCoverman Wed 29 Aug 2018, 22:58

Hey its not all about league one you know! Don't forget about Col U in league 2 and our great start to the season...well it was until Northampton on Saturday! And as for Wycombe, all I can say is remember 91/92 Ben? Wink

by NedB-H Wed 29 Aug 2018, 23:33

I think the biggest danger for Sunderland would be believing that last season was rock bottom. As Kwini particularly will vouch for, there’s further to fall yet, and the rest of us following permanent lower league teams have seen it happen to plenty of clubs. Could be a very smart move appointing a fairly little-known young manager, rather than trying to play the big fish in a small pond card. Hopefully Ross and the new owners can get things on a level playing field at least.

by beninho Thu 30 Aug 2018, 13:55

BlueCoverman wrote:Hey its not all about league one you know! Don't forget about Col U in league 2 and our great start to the season...well it was until Northampton on Saturday! And as for Wycombe, all I can say is remember 91/92 Ben?

My first game was 1994! But I know that Roy mcdonagh is still a swear word at Adams Park!

by beninho Thu 30 Aug 2018, 13:56

So, it seems Big Sam was stitched up, and sacked for no real reason. Not a bad thing as it has transpired.

by **navyblueshorts** Thu 30 Aug 2018, 15:32

beninho wrote:So, it seems Big Sam was stitched up, and sacked for no real reason. Not a bad thing as it has transpired.

Except no-one can know how he'd have done.

by Diggers Thu 30 Aug 2018, 16:13

navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:So, it seems Big Sam was stitched up, and sacked for no real reason. Not a bad thing as it has transpired.
Except no-one can know how he'd have done.

You don’t know how the team would have performed, that’s true. But this Summer was also a bit of a reconnection by fans with England, a feel good factor. Southgate’s personality helped create that, something that Fat Sam couldn’t (and wouldn’t even try) to achieve. Plus he would never have gone for youth or bought into the style continuity, he’s too much about the short term.

by beninho Thu 30 Aug 2018, 17:22

Obviously I don't know what would or could have happened but In my view, I think he would not have been as progressive as Southgates team.

I didn't think he should have been sacked at the time though.

by super_realist Thu 30 Aug 2018, 17:47

navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:So, it seems Big Sam was stitched up, and sacked for no real reason. Not a bad thing as it has transpired.
Except no-one can know how he'd have done.

Regardless of who the manager was, England would still have benefitted from a favourable draw and big teams tumbling out.

Fat Sam broke the moral rules of a manager, it was inevitable he had to go. You can't have a manager of a team doing anything shady. He's only got himself to blame.

by beninho Thu 30 Aug 2018, 17:54

Think its come out that he didn't do anything to warrant a sacking. Don't think he did anything shady at all.

Anyway, if he had not been sacked, the whole of the world would have panned different. We may not have one our group to qualify. So its unlikely that the world cup would have panned out exactly the same.

by super_realist Thu 30 Aug 2018, 18:00

Come on, of course you'd still have won (or one if you prefer) the group. Even someone inept like Fat Sam could have done that in that group.

Allardyce and the FA MUTUALLY agreed. Why would Fat Sam agree to the contract termination if he was innocent?

by Diggers Thu 30 Aug 2018, 18:17

Errm, we didn’t actually win the group. I agree we’d have gone through, not sure we’d have won the two group games with Fat Sam though. We’ll never know, but I for one am glad he wasn’t there.
Gomez into the side for the Spain game, absolute quality player to come in. Foden might get a start, which would be interesting.

by Diggers Thu 30 Aug 2018, 18:19

Seems like a good start for Stevie G, certainly has his time fighting for him, maybe too much today. Few draws they should have won but I’m sure he’d have taken 12 games unbeaten, see if that can stretch to 13on Sunday!

by BlueCoverman Thu 30 Aug 2018, 22:51

beninho wrote:
BlueCoverman wrote:Hey its not all about league one you know! Don't forget about Col U in league 2 and our great start to the season...well it was until Northampton on Saturday! And as for Wycombe, all I can say is remember 91/92 Ben?

My first game was 1994! But I know that Roy mcdonagh is still a swear word at Adams Park!

Roy still likes to stir it up with some strong opinions, some of his Facebook posts are very entertaining! His book 'Red Card Roy' is a decent read and a bit of an insight into lower league football in the 80's & 90's

by super_realist Fri 31 Aug 2018, 08:07

Diggers wrote:Errm, we didn’t actually win the group. I agree we’d have gone through, not sure we’d have won the two group games with Fat Sam though. We’ll never know, but I for one am glad he wasn’t there.
Gomez into the side for the Spain game, absolute quality player to come in. Foden might get a start, which would be interesting.

We were referring to the QUALIFICATION round Diggers which England did win at a canter. Even Fat Sam would have got you through that, and even Fat Sam would have beaten Panama (the worst team in the tournament) and Tunisia in the group stages.

Can't imagine that Fat Sam would improve England long term as he's part of the dinosaur generation of relegation fighting nobodies alongside Pardew, Woy, Curbishly, Pulis, McLaren etc

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 31 Aug 2018, 10:54

Diggers wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:So, it seems Big Sam was stitched up, and sacked for no real reason. Not a bad thing as it has transpired.
Except no-one can know how he'd have done.

You don’t know how the team would have performed, that’s true. But this Summer was also a bit of a reconnection by fans with England, a feel good factor. Southgate’s personality helped create that, something that Fat Sam couldn’t (and wouldn’t even try) to achieve. Plus he would never have gone for youth or bought into the style continuity, he’s too much about the short term.

Yeah. Agree with that. Sam is probably not what was needed going forward.

by beninho Fri 31 Aug 2018, 20:17

A mate of mine lives iN Australia outside Sydney. He follows the mariners football team. They have had Usain on trial with them (clearly for publicity)and he said he played 20mins or so in a friendy. He was rubbish, as expected but was blowing totally and not fit enough. Obviously fitness is different for every sport, but its pretty funny.

Anyway he should just enjoy his retirement and live with being one of the greatest sportsmen ever. Not a failed footballer.

by Be_the_ball Fri 31 Aug 2018, 20:53

beninho wrote:A mate of mine lives iN Australia outside Sydney. He follows the mariners football team. They have had Usain on trial with them (clearly for publicity)and he said he played 20mins or so in a friendy. He was rubbish, as expected but was blowing totally and not fit enough. Obviously fitness is different for every sport, but its pretty funny.

Anyway he should just enjoy his retirement and live with being one of the greatest sportsmen ever. Not a failed footballer.

Has he got an Irish granny? Erm

He may not be a footballer, but that never held Paul McShane back Laugh

by NedB-H Fri 31 Aug 2018, 23:57

Diggers wrote:Seems like a good start for Stevie G, certainly has his time fighting for him, maybe too much today. Few draws they should have won but I’m sure he’d have taken 12 games unbeaten, see if that can stretch to 13on Sunday!

Watch out for the lad Goldson in defence for them. By some distance the best player I’ve ever seen in a Shrewsbury shirt, and that includes the year we had Grant Holt playing three divisions below his ability. Goldson got unlucky at Brighton after he left us, health issues and then he couldn’t force his way back in past Dunk and Duffy in their starting XI. Rangers fans already seem to love him after a month, in light of Southgate’s comments regarding English players in the top flight I wouldn’t mind a couple of quid on him getting a cap by this time next year.

by super_realist Mon 03 Sep 2018, 07:55

Be_the_ball wrote:
beninho wrote:A mate of mine lives iN Australia outside Sydney. He follows the mariners football team. They have had Usain on trial with them (clearly for publicity)and he said he played 20mins or so in a friendy. He was rubbish, as expected but was blowing totally and not fit enough. Obviously fitness is different for every sport, but its pretty funny.

Anyway he should just enjoy his retirement and live with being one of the greatest sportsmen ever. Not a failed footballer.

Has he got an Irish granny?

He may not be a footballer, but that never held Paul McShane back

Hi de hi?

by JAS Mon 03 Sep 2018, 13:18

NedB-H wrote:
Diggers wrote:Seems like a good start for Stevie G, certainly has his time fighting for him, maybe too much today. Few draws they should have won but I’m sure he’d have taken 12 games unbeaten, see if that can stretch to 13on Sunday!
Watch out for the lad Goldson in defence for them. By some distance the best player I’ve ever seen in a Shrewsbury shirt, and that includes the year we had Grant Holt playing three divisions below his ability. Goldson got unlucky at Brighton after he left us, health issues and then he couldn’t force his way back in past Dunk and Duffy in their starting XI. Rangers fans already seem to love him after a month, in light of Southgate’s comments regarding English players in the top flight I wouldn’t mind a couple of quid on him getting a cap by this time next year.

There’s no doubt he’s managed to inject a diffent mentality and you’d have to call the first 12 games a success if even only in relative terms, Goldson, Katic & McGregor have been a big part of that. The reality check arrived at the weekend tho. At this point in his tenure there’s no shame or surprise in losing the OF game yesterday, that being said, now we’ll find out a lot more about Gerrard and what real difference he can make going forward. I think Europa League is a double edged sword for them, great to have European football until Xmas for the first time in seven years but....trekking continent wide with what is essentially a threadbare squad every other Thursday night could take its toll domestically. If they reach Xmas in 2nd place domestically I’d be pleasantly surprised and Gerrards stock will be very high. If they progress out of their Europa League group it would be a huge step forward and they may even run the risk of losing Gerrard to a relegation flirting premiership club.

by kwinigolfer Mon 03 Sep 2018, 14:27

Ridiculous that UEFA don't somehow regionalise all "Cup" groupings & qualifying ties, at least until the straight knock-out. Travelling from one end of the Continent (and sometimes further) is absurd.

by super_realist Mon 03 Sep 2018, 17:35

The Europa League is tinpot enough without teams having to go to footballing backwaters like Celtic and Rangers instead of going to Germany, Spain or Italy just because they're teams located nearer.

I'd much rather watch Arsenal v Inter than Ajax v Rangers.

by NedB-H Mon 03 Sep 2018, 19:08

I’ve always thought the Europa is pretty tinpot, but recently I’ve been reading opinions from fans of clubs who feature in it and I’ve kind of reassessed. The Champions League is getting ever more dominated by the same teams, so as a fan even if your club does make the group stage you’re likely on a hiding to nothing. The Europa gives clubs outside of England/Spain/Germany, and non elite clubs in those leagues, something to aim for. And for fans it’s a chance to watch something different, and visit new places if they want to do away games. Celtic to Baku is a trek but that’s because they’re the two extremities; if you’re Hungarian or Slovakian or Serbian neither is more ridiculous than the other. Same as Carlisle playing Plymouth, a nuisance for those two but inevitable when you’re located somewhere inaccessible.

by super_realist Mon 03 Sep 2018, 19:16

Good point Ned, still hard to be particularly interested in it. Good they've changed the rules so that you can get into the Champions League the following year through the back door which means it's taken a bit more seriously, but all the strange ways which teams can parachute into it via failing in Champions League qualifying or finishing 3rd in the group stages take away the credibility a bit and very much give it a second rate feel.

I think an old fashioned knockout tournament is required more than this format, the Europa league is constructed in such an obvious way to wring as much money out of the competition as possible. Of course some teams might only get 1 two legged game, but surely there's more value to winning such a format.

by pedro Mon 03 Sep 2018, 21:03

super, I don’t think fans of those clubs in the EL mind it. And doesn’t that count?

by beninho Tue 04 Sep 2018, 07:20

The el is the second rate european club competition, its clearly behind the champs league. But theres nothing wrong with it or its format. Look at recent winners, athletico, seville, man utd, chelsea, porto all pretty big clubs.

by super_realist Tue 04 Sep 2018, 08:05

pedro wrote:super, I don’t think fans of those clubs in the EL mind it. And doesn’t that count?

I think quite a lot do mind actually, especially if it's a distraction to contending in the league or a Champions League place. You often hear how much of a waste of time it is for their clubs to be involved. While clubs and players are constantly complaining about how many games they need to play per season despite all their money and large squads.

by pedro Tue 04 Sep 2018, 08:32

super_realist wrote:
pedro wrote:super, I don’t think fans of those clubs in the EL mind it. And doesn’t that count?

I think quite a lot do mind actually, especially if it's a distraction to contending in the league or a Champions League place. You often hear how much of a waste of time it is for their clubs to be involved. While clubs and players are constantly complaining about how many games they need to play per season despite all their money and large squads.

It's only in the EPL they seem to complain over that. Those EPL teams not qualifying for the CL should be happy to be in the EL with all the money they invest. Mind you, max. 4 or 5 of the big 6 qualify for the CL. The remaining HAVE to play in Europe, both their fans and owners demand that.

And there are 2nd drawer teams like Southampton - don't you think they were pretty happy to be in the EL, when they'll likely never ever even get a sniff of the CL?

PLus of course the smaller leagues like the SPL. When will teams other than Rangers or Celtic ever have a chance of even getting close to CL? The EL is a suitable alternative ambition for teams like Aberdeen etc. The same goes for the Belgian and Scandinavian leagues. Bar 1 or 2 teams in those leagues anyone would be more than happy to play in the EL. Additionally the EL is pretty big money for those teams.

If you don't provide suitable alternatives for smaller teams in bigger leagues, or any team in smaller leagues, the disparity between top and bottom in European club football will just continue to grow.

by **navyblueshorts** Tue 04 Sep 2018, 12:00

beninho wrote:The el is the second rate european club competition, its clearly behind the champs league. But theres nothing wrong with it or its format. Look at recent winners, athletico, seville, man utd, chelsea, porto all pretty big clubs.

Out of interest, how many recent EL winners didn't parachute in from CL failure? IMO, CL failures should be nowhere near allowed into the EL.

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