European cup matches with no thread - Round 2

by stub Sat 20 Oct 2018, 1:15 pm

First topic message reminder :

Watching Munster v Glos and really hoping England don’t lose another number 8!

by Artful_Dodger Sat 20 Oct 2018, 6:19 pm

stub wrote:Did it cost a try?

Yep Racing scored off the resulting scrum.

by stub Sat 20 Oct 2018, 6:21 pm

Shame because it looked like you were fairly dominant on the score board up until then.

by Heaf Sat 20 Oct 2018, 6:49 pm

Sarries passing gone a bit loose ...

by **profitius** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 12:24 am

A win is a win is a win. A tired looking Munster got over the line. It was a job done kind of feel after the final whistle.

The lineouts were a mess. Hopefully N Scannells injury isn't that bad. It's been a bad week for injuries.

As well as the lineouts, they were just sloppy with the ball with numerous mistakes. Central to that once again was Duncan Williams. He gets 10/10 for effort but his passing is atrocious. Mathewson came on and suddenly Munster clicked into gear.

Carbery is looking alright! Thanks Leo! He is getting better by the game and I expect him to start one or two of the autumn internationals.

Beirne was the motm again. Great signing.

Gloucester will feel confident about the return leg but Munster should be much better. Exeter blew a good chance.

by **LondonTiger** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:04 pm

Christ on a bike!!! How does Picamoles not get a YC for deliberate knock on?

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:05 pm

The mind boggles LT!

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:05 pm

What a start by the Falcons!

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:19 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Christ on a bike!!! How does Picamoles not get a YC for deliberate knock on?

Yet more appalling officiating ... it's turned into a lottery now.

by formerly known as Sam Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:41 pm

It's a Scottish ref expect shocking decisions at best.

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 1:58 pm

To be fair there have been shockers from other countries too ...

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:48 pm

tackler on ground didn't release there - pen other way for me ...

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:48 pm

That was probably the last chance for Falcons - shame after such a good start

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:50 pm

How much sealing off is this ref going to allow?

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:53 pm

AR calls white offside but ref says no?

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:55 pm

Montpellier offside all the time ...

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:56 pm

Wow, Falcons!!

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:58 pm

How many phases was that? 40?

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 2:59 pm

Yes - well done Falcons!!!

by **Rugby Fan** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:00 pm

That was some finish.

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:00 pm

Phew - I'm exhausted after that Smile

by **Rugby Fan** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:04 pm

Newcastle have put in the kind of performances we might have expected from Exeter.

by **LondonTiger** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:07 pm

Heaf wrote:Montpellier offside all the time ...

Whole game.

Chuffing awesome from Falcons.

by marty2086 Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:19 pm

They were clearly offside too for the final phase, made it more satisfying to see Falcons win it

Don't think the yellow was correct either, tackle didn't start around the head/neck as the TMO claimed

by Geordie Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:29 pm

Aaaarrrggghhhhhh furious

Getting ready to leave the house at 13.00 to go to the game for a 15.00 start....

Feckin 13.00 start!!!!

Missed the f$#king game!!!!!!!

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:30 pm

Geordie, what a nightmare!

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:31 pm

Toulouse looking pretty awesome....

by No 7&1/2 Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:37 pm

You plum, Geordie.

by Geordie Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:40 pm

Can't believe I did that!!

by stub Sun 21 Oct 2018, 3:42 pm

Well at least you didn’t miss an exciting game!

by yappysnap Sun 21 Oct 2018, 4:06 pm

Oh Geordie...

Well done Falcons!!

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 4:28 pm

marty2086 wrote:They were clearly offside too for the final phase, made it more satisfying to see Falcons win it

Don't think the yellow was correct either, tackle didn't start around the head/neck as the TMO claimed

Exactly - makes you wonder how they can have the benefit of slow-mo and still get it wrong ...

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 4:31 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Aaaarrrggghhhhhh

Getting ready to leave the house at 13.00 to go to the game for a 15.00 start....

Feckin 13.00 start!!!!

Missed the f$#king game!!!!!!!

Jeez mate, what a nightmare ... still you can at least relax watching the replay knowing you won without being stressed out by the last 10 minutes ...

by Pot Hale Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:06 pm

Superb win by Toulouse over Leinster - best game of the cup so far - 28-27.

Two teams gave it their all.

The Heineken Cup keeps on giving.

by Artful_Dodger Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:10 pm

Unbelievable game.

by nathan Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:14 pm

Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

by nathan Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:14 pm

Only seen the last 10 minutes of that game and it was brilliant, guessing it's worth a full watch?

by formerly known as Sam Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:16 pm

Good, hard, close games with the underdog coming through to take it.

About time we saw Toulouse come back to strength.

by Heaf Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:20 pm

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

Certainly looks like it - but it seems different laws apply to Munster based on this and the Chiefs match ...

by whocares Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:25 pm

Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

by lostinwales Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:27 pm

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

Should be...

by Pot Hale Sun 21 Oct 2018, 5:32 pm

whocares wrote:Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

I thought they were merveilleuse. Countered and overcame everything Leinster threw at them. Their ball handling, speed of thought, skill and nous was fantastic - a pleasure to watch.

If they could bottle that for playing at test level, along with all the other playing riches that France have, they’d be champion material.

by TrailApe Sun 21 Oct 2018, 6:19 pm

Can't believe I did that!!

Daft Bugger!

Mind you - think how much money you have saved - easily enough time to (nervously) have supped at least 4 pints in that last drive!!

by **LondonTiger** Sun 21 Oct 2018, 6:28 pm

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

If looked at, you would have thought so. Cipriani probably did a worse challenge than the one he was sent off for earlier in the game, while 36 also made a challenge that was missed.

It will be interesting to see what citing officers do across all the games.

by No 7&1/2 Sun 21 Oct 2018, 6:55 pm

There have been a few clear outs the same as lozowski as well. I'm sure we will see the consistency we expect!

by whocares Sun 21 Oct 2018, 7:00 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
whocares wrote:Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

I thought they were merveilleuse. Countered and overcame everything Leinster threw at them. Their ball handling, speed of thought, skill and nous was fantastic - a pleasure to watch.

If they could bottle that for playing at test level, along with all the other playing riches that France have, they’d be champion material.

Well I don’t think they have the required consistency yet but it was good to see them on a pitch all guns blazing. Been a while after a few years .

by yappysnap Sun 21 Oct 2018, 10:26 pm

Apparently Toulouse are a pretty young inexperienced team as well so great to get this win.

Got to admit it's always nice to see the top teams like Leinster lose, keeps this comp interesting for everyone.

by thebandwagonsociety Mon 22 Oct 2018, 9:19 am

Pot Hale wrote:Superb win by Toulouse over Leinster - best game of the cup so far - 28-27.

Two teams gave it their all.

The Heineken Cup keeps on giving.

Aim for the TBP wins at home and pick up at least a LBP on the road. A decent result for Leinster away in France. Toulouse played some lovely stuff. They pounced on some telegraphed passing from Leinster. The only thing sub-par in that game was the pitch itself, it tore up something awful in the scrums. I wonder how scary that Toulouse outfit would be with a sarries/glasgow/blues style home pitch.

by marty2086 Mon 22 Oct 2018, 9:26 am

LondonTiger wrote:
nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

If looked at, you would have thought so. Cipriani probably did a worse challenge than the one he was sent off for earlier in the game, while 36 also made a challenge that was missed.

It will be interesting to see what citing officers do across all the games.

Sad thing is seeing the tweets saying different laws for the Irish etc as if Twelvetrees tackle never happened Rolling Eyes

by Heaf Mon 22 Oct 2018, 9:57 am

Fair point Marty, 36 seemed lucky too, however I think there may be other factors that make people think some teams seem to get the rub of the green a lot.

Take Munster v Chiefs and the conversion charge down - reckless, impact to head, with force but ref said it was OK as it wasn't deliberate (and we know it's outcome not intent which is the deciding factor now). Also the illegal binding of the flankers on the props right in front of the officials which was ignored multiple times. Finally the last phases of the match when Chiefs just needed a penalty to win, Poite seemed determined not to give a pen despite at least 3 infringements that deserved one.

These are just examples and I'm not saying other teams also haven't had good or bad decisions but there is a huge amount of inconsistency and some teams just 'seem' to come out much better off than others - of course our tinted glasses of various colours could also be playing a part here Smile

by marty2086 Mon 22 Oct 2018, 10:12 am

The charge down, from the angles I saw didn't touch the head it actually looked like Conway tried to avoid the head which would indicate it was deliberate

Some teams look to push boundaries and when officials don't pull them for it they keep doing it. Just look at Montpellier yesterday, consistently offside and sealing off and even when the ARs point it out to the ref he said he's happy with it.

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