6 Nations - IRELAND v ENGLAND 2nd Feb 2019

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6 Nations

IRELAND v ENGLAND

Saturday 02 February 2019 16:45 GMT

Aviva Stadium, Dublin

Maybe a little early but I for one can not wait for this fixture. 2nd vs 4th.

The 6 Nations is officially the BEST rugby competition........................In the World.

England starting XV (485 caps)

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 25 caps), 14 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 40 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 17 caps), 12 Manu Tuiagi (Leicester Tigers, 27 caps), 11 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 29 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 65 caps), 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 80 caps); 1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 51 caps), 2 Jamie George (Saracens, 32 caps), 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 17 caps), 4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, 26 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 27 caps), 6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 8 caps), 7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 5 caps), 8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 36 caps).

Finishers (206 caps)

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 7 caps), 17 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps), 18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 15 caps), 19 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 68 caps), 20 Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 18 caps), 21 Dan Robson (Wasps, uncapped), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps), 23 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 42 caps).

Poorfour wrote:Form and home advantage would still favour Ireland to win - but I think it will be a closer fought game than most people seem to expect.

I still feel that Ireland will control the game, and if they can score some tries only a late fight back by England will make the score respectable.

Can't see Ireland winning this. The pressure and expectation on them is huge. The 6 Nations needs a shock on opening weekend.

TightHEAD wrote:Can't see Ireland winning this. The pressure and expectation on them is huge. The 6 Nations needs a shock on opening weekend.

The shock will be how big a score Ireland put on you.

TightHEAD wrote:Can't see Ireland winning this. The pressure and expectation on them is huge. The 6 Nations needs a shock on opening weekend.

What will the score be?

carpet baboon wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Can't see Ireland winning this. The pressure and expectation on them is huge. The 6 Nations needs a shock on opening weekend.

The shock will be how big a score Ireland put on you.

It wouldn't shock most fans

Cyril wrote:So wrong. Have you watched Ireland or England play in the last five years? I despair for this forum (miaow is fairly new).

Genuinely, I can't make head nor tail of this. Were you drunk when you wrote it?

Ireland by 10-12. But not necessarily comfortably.

I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

TightHEAD wrote:Can't see Ireland winning this. The pressure and expectation on them is huge. The 6 Nations needs a shock on opening weekend.

Italy trouncing Scotland will do me

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

Low scoring or high scoring game? Remember the shocking 12-6 England win a few years back. Snore.

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

Ok, I'll bite, based on what exactly ?

munkian wrote:

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

Ok, I'll bite, based on what exactly ?

He's told you...based on Underhill.

SecretFly wrote:

munkian wrote:

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

Ok, I'll bite, based on what exactly ?

He's told you...based on Underhill.

Got you, based on England having an actual 7, that's where they've gone wrong.

Or right. We won 2 6 nations recently without 1.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Or right. We won 2 6 nations recently without 1.

I think England benefited from a changing of the guard for all sides in the first two years of a 4 year world cup cycle and failed to upgrade themselves at the same rate. Still, the two wins were fully deserved and impressive all the same.

If people are stupid enough to view world cups as the be all as England did back in 03 so be it. Worked for us. Bit of a falter last year as players ran a little on empty. It a the reason I can't wait for the Ireland game. England players will want to go out and prove their the best.

No 7&1/2 wrote:If people are stupid enough to view world xupsnas the be all as England did back in 03 so be it. Worked for us. Bit of a falter last year as players ran a little on empty. It a the reason I can't wait for the Ireland game. England players will want to go out and prove their the best.

So early red cards for Faz and sinkler as there too fired up. Cool should be a nice run out for us after that

No 7&1/2 wrote:If people are stupid enough to view world xupsnas the be all as England did back in 03 so be it. Worked for us. Bit of a falter last year as players ran a little on empty. It a the reason I can't wait for the Ireland game. England players will want to go out and prove their the best.

whats world xupsnas?

I agree though England will be gunning for a win which will be great to see albeit in the last England v Ireland game Farrell was very busy looking for niggle and out to prove a point and went no where fast really so I do think England are going to need a fairly solid plan and execute it to perfection to get the win.

It's always a fine line but they need to be fired up. It's the cool heads whilenireland have been raging which has put us on the back foot recently. We should have a pack which can generate that go forward ball with lot of strong carriers who also have good passing ability. The last few games we've looked after the ball much better as well. We'll need to vs Ireland.

Ha. That would be fat fingers and autocorrect collapse.

carpet baboon wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:If people are stupid enough to view world xupsnas the be all as England did back in 03 so be it. Worked for us. Bit of a falter last year as players ran a little on empty. It a the reason I can't wait for the Ireland game. England players will want to go out and prove their the best.

So early red cards for Faz and sinkler as there too fired up. Cool should be a nice run out for us after that

I can see Farrell getting a red any day soon.

Sexton and Farrell have both been a bit Poopie recently.

Though with home and ref advantage it'll be Farrell walking not him.

munkian wrote:Sexton and Farrell have both been a bit Poopie recently.

Though with home and ref advantage it'll be Farrell walking not him.

What did Sexton do?

Well we'll see. He's never been close to one yet but you never know.

munkian wrote:

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'd have said England by 7. But with Underhill out, maybe just the 3. Any last minute injuries and the jury's out.

Ok, I'll bite, based on what exactly ?

Well obviously he was expecting Underhill to score the winning try but now he reckons that Curry fella will go for a drop goal.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Well we'll see. He's never been close to one yet but you never know.

Ah go away, he has. In my view this tackle was worth a red.

https://youtu.be/nSR0jcRcki8

Collapse2005 wrote:

munkian wrote:Sexton and Farrell have both been a bit Poopie recently.

Though with home and ref advantage it'll be Farrell walking not him.

What did Sexton do?

He was an absolute gobshoite vs Munster, probably cost Leinster the game. Farrell has done similar for Saracens recently too.

Hit to the shoulder and riding up, collapse. Did he get a red or a retrospective one?

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hit to the shoulder and riding up, collapse. Did he get a red or a retrospective one?

He was finally yellowed for a high tackle for Sarries recently.

munkian wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

munkian wrote:Sexton and Farrell have both been a bit Poopie recently.

Though with home and ref advantage it'll be Farrell walking not him.

What did Sexton do?

He was an absolute gobshoite vs Munster, probably cost Leinster the game. Farrell has done similar for Saracens recently too.

That's rare enough and its fair enough against the boggers because its best to show them who is boss every now and then. Sexton doesn't get carried away in terms of ill discipline against other sides really.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hit to the shoulder and riding up, collapse. Did he get a red or a retrospective one?

No idea. It was dirty and dangerous in my view.

Given it a ridden up means it's very unlikely any ref would give a red. If they did it would be a mistake. Even the pulling down of the player afterwards leads to him falling on his back. Can't really give a red for that.

As ever these days the players most at risk of a red are the back 3s.

Collapse2005 wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Hit to the shoulder and riding up, collapse. Did he get a red or a retrospective one?

No idea. It was dirty and dangerous in my view.

Even his da was calling for a red.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Given it a ridden up means it's very unlikely any ref would give a red. If they did it would be a mistake. Even the pulling down of the player afterwards leads to him falling on his back. Can't really give a red for that.

If this is referring to his 'tackle' against Aus it should've 100% been a yellow and a penalty try, it completely swung the game too.

No. It's referring to the clip that collapse posted.

No 7&1/2 wrote:No. It's referring to the clip that collapse posted.

Just watched - that's absolute filthy - yellow any day of the week now - possible red - arm around neck and throws him to the floor.

Yeah right. If that's deemed as red then fair enough. We'll see plenty this tournament.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Yeah right. If that's deemed as red then fair enough. We'll see plenty this tournament.

It's not massively different from Moriarty's WWE moment.

Which tackle was that?

Collapse2005 wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Or right. We won 2 6 nations recently without 1.

I think England benefited from a changing of the guard for all sides in the first two years of a 4 year world cup cycle and failed to upgrade themselves at the same rate. Still, the two wins were fully deserved and impressive all the same.

Why don't some England fans get this? Their dominance in that era was always conditional.

Lol.

Their their (sic), 7.5...

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/england-drop-lowest-world-rugby-ranking-in-two-years-losing-streak-reaches-five

Lol. Dear me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodByPXpGpA

Oooohh.

(its ur hero)

Ha. He's a laugh ain't he.

miaow wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Or right. We won 2 6 nations recently without 1.

I think England benefited from a changing of the guard for all sides in the first two years of a 4 year world cup cycle and failed to upgrade themselves at the same rate. Still, the two wins were fully deserved and impressive all the same.

Why don't some England fans get this? Their dominance in that era was always conditional.

It was and it wasnt. Winning the 6 nations is very tough any year and England were very good.