6N 2019: Scotland v Ireland, 9 February

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SCOTLAND v IRELAND 
9 February 2019
KO: 14:15
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gaüzère (France) and Alexandre Ruiz (France)
Television match official: Rowan Kitt (England)

Live on [paddy TV and jock TV]

A. Head to Head

134 Played 134
67 Won 62
6 Drawn 6
62 Lost 67
1,415 Points 1,525

B. Recent Form

10 March 2018
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
28–8 to Ireland

4 February 2017
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
27–22 to Scotland

19 March 2016
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
35 – 25 to Ireland

15 August 2015
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
28 – 22 to Ireland

21 March 2015
BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
10 – 40 to Ireland

2 February 2014
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
28 – 6 to Ireland

24 February 2013
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
12 – 8 to Scotland

10 March 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
32 – 14 to Ireland

6 August 2011
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 6 to Scotland

27 February 2011
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
18 – 21 to Ireland

20 March 2010
Croke Park, Dublin
20 – 23 to Scotland

C. Teams

SCOTLAND


[TBC]

IRELAND 


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What the actual F was mainland doing there?

Scrappy second half. Ref has been a little one eyed IMO.

RDW wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Tommy Seymour is having a terrible game.

We’ve simply not been at the races today

Both wings haven't justified being picked over Kinghorn!

Kinghorn has made his mistakes as well to be fair, guilty of not seeing the man outside more than once

Virtually everyone has made mistakes on the Scottish side

Presuming Ed wrote:Scrappy second half. Ref has been a little one eyed IMO.

Lol. Poor Scotland. Maybe they simply werent good enough?

Well. We won but that was more to do with Scotland falling apart more than it was us playing well

There really isn't as much daylight between them and us as people seem to think. This game was massively winnable and its our own stupid mistakes that have cost us here. We've given them far too much respect and its shown in the score.

Sort out this mental block we seem to have and we can top the group in the world cup. Knowing us we'll end up beating Ireland then losing to Japan and Samoa and finishing third. The trials and tribulations of supporting Scotland.

Well done Ireland, ground out a good win again.

We just killed ourselves by not taking chances in the first half and then by our mistakes in the second half.

Very hard to chase the game against Ireland, we should have been in the lead and it could have been a different game

Ireland will be pleased with the result, but not necessarily the performance.

Scotland should be deeply disappointed with their play in that second half.

Townsend needs to take this one.

Kinghorn simply shouldn’t have been dropped to the bench. Jonny Gray was completely ineffective and Toolis would have been the better option. He didn’t even bring toolis on!!!

A few players had good games, most were just meh and more than a few had a game to forget.

Ireland were certainly well below their best but we just didn't manage to put any concerted pressure on them at all in the 2nd half. We forced things instead of building scores.

Mcinally, Ritchie, Wilson (for a half) played well, poor performances from Jones and both wingers.

Both locks looked knackered and needed subbed off - it's not like Toolis is an inexperienced newbie.

Hard one to swallow but can't say we deserved to win. A few players had good games, its just the error count come back to bite us. As was said last week our penalty count needed to drop and it showed that we let creep back up in the second half.

Good game to watch but, as ever, painful for Scotland fans.

tigertattie wrote:Townsend needs to take this one.

Kinghorn simply shouldn’t have been dropped to the bench. Jonny Gray was completely ineffective and Toolis would have been the better option. He didn’t even bring toolis on!!!

A few players had good games, most were just meh and more than a few had a game to forget.

Despite having a poor game 9/10 people would consider Maitland a better option than Blarehorn before the game. Hogg would also probably not have let a ball bounce off his head. We lost this game because we kept dropping the fupping thing, not because of lack of luvvie.

tigertattie wrote:Townsend needs to take this one.

Kinghorn simply shouldn’t have been dropped to the bench. Jonny Gray was completely ineffective and Toolis would have been the better option. He didn’t even bring toolis on!!!

A few players had good games, most were just meh and more than a few had a game to forget.

That is a bit harsh on JG, he had a decent game, you wait till you see his stats. We actually stood up to the Irish pack really well, it was the mistakes across the whole team that killed us

Grieg Laidlaw not happy with Poite!

Is Greeg speaking solely in vowels?

Maitland didn't look fully match fit - most people agreed it was the right decision to bring him in but we hadn't seen him in training to know if he was fully fit. Did the coaches know they were gambling on his fitness?

Kinghorn made a big mistake bit at least made good ground in attack - both wingers were pretty ineffective all game and both made big mistakes. 

They're certainly not the reason we lost though - across the board our 2nd half display just wasn't good enough.

Collapse2005 wrote:

Presuming Ed wrote:Scrappy second half. Ref has been a little one eyed IMO.

Lol. Poor Scotland. Maybe they simply werent good enough?

Interesting how you immediately assume I was implyling the ref was favouring Irelnd not Scotland. You obviously believe you got the rub of the green.

BigGee wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Townsend needs to take this one.

Kinghorn simply shouldn’t have been dropped to the bench. Jonny Gray was completely ineffective and Toolis would have been the better option. He didn’t even bring toolis on!!!

A few players had good games, most were just meh and more than a few had a game to forget.

That is a bit harsh on JG, he had a decent game, you wait till you see his stats. We actually stood up to the Irish pack really well, it was the mistakes across the whole team that killed us

Agreed - he put in a huge shift. Can't fathom why neither lock was subbed off though when both were knackered.

Feel like this game was there for Scotland. Some pretty sloppy tries given away but I'd say Ire deserved the W.

Also - great game of rugby. It's just brilliant to see two NH teams playing at this level of skill and intensity. Cracking advert for the 6N and thank you to both sides for a thoroughly entertaining 80!

Has Rob Kearney been banned from passing. Made some good breaks but never looked to move the ball

Still no bonus point for Ireland. 

Although i thought Ireland would win today. I did at least think they would get a bonus point win ( 4 try) bonus point that is.

Not bringing Toolis on when Gray was clearly tiring was odd.Unlucky with the third try two committed tacklers went high and squeezed Carberry through the gap between them.

carpet baboon wrote:Has Rob Kearney been banned from passing. Made some good breaks but never looked to move the ball

Think last week could've been a bit different for you guys with Kearney in. Thought he played a blinder overall.

Collapse2005 wrote:

Presuming Ed wrote:Scrappy second half. Ref has been a little one eyed IMO.

Lol. Poor Scotland. Maybe they simply werent good enough?

Have a word with yourself pal, you've been the only one intentionally trying to bring this thread down. Most people on these boards seem decent sorts but you've embarrassed yourself start to finish here.

Just need Italy to win now and leave the competition finely poised.

BigGee wrote:Grieg Laidlaw not happy with Poite!

He specifically mentioned the SoB strip that was given as a knock on - I couldn't understand that decision. He stripped the ball then dropped it - how was it a knock on from the player on the ground? Was a big momentum change after that.

Again before the inevitable comments come I'm not saying we lost because of the ref...

RDW wrote:

BigGee wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Townsend needs to take this one.

Kinghorn simply shouldn’t have been dropped to the bench. Jonny Gray was completely ineffective and Toolis would have been the better option. He didn’t even bring toolis on!!!

A few players had good games, most were just meh and more than a few had a game to forget.

That is a bit harsh on JG, he had a decent game, you wait till you see his stats. We actually stood up to the Irish pack really well, it was the mistakes across the whole team that killed us

Agreed - he put in a huge shift. Can't fathom why neither lock was subbed off though when both were knackered.

For whatever reason, Toonie just does not seem to rate Toolis as much as some of the other locks. I imagine we will see Ritchie Gray coming back into the squad for the next round if he gets through his next game with Toulouse. The Gray brothers and Gilchrist seem to be his preferred combos

Schmidt not happy with his team's performance and stated that Sexton failed his HIA after being stamped on the head. Do they have a different meaning of stamp down under?

RDW wrote:

BigGee wrote:Grieg Laidlaw not happy with Poite!

He specifically mentioned the SoB strip that was given as a knock on - I couldn't understand that decision. He stripped the ball then dropped it - how was it a knock on from the player on the ground? Was a big momentum change after that.

Again before the inevitable comments come I'm not saying we lost because of the ref...

As I wrote earlier, I agree with Poite and feel Strauss still had possession of the ball after SOB tried to rip it, and lost it trying to place it behind himself.

carpet baboon wrote:Has Rob Kearney been banned from passing. Made some good breaks but never looked to move the ball

I noticed that. A touch of the Mike Browns? Maybe that's why Schmidt flirted with replacing him with a centre.

RDW wrote:

BigGee wrote:Grieg Laidlaw not happy with Poite!

He specifically mentioned the SoB strip that was given as a knock on - I couldn't understand that decision. He stripped the ball then dropped it - how was it a knock on from the player on the ground? Was a big momentum change after that.

Again before the inevitable comments come I'm not saying we lost because of the ref...

He also probably wasn't happy about getting pinged for taking a player out beyond the ruck (correctly as that's one of my pet hates) but then Ireland did the same thing about a minute later and got no reaction from Poite ... but like you I'm not saying Scotland lost due to the ref, their high handling error count did for them ..

Great result Ireland, but not the performance to get the train back on the rails

Love Laudlaw ranting about Poite and thinks he gets away with it by saying ‘but we’re not going to the blame the ref’ to end

Our errors and poor discipline caused Ireland to win. No doubts.
However our intensity was 2nd rate in the second half, compared to the first. That cost us. Line speed was non-existant after it was so good in first 40.
Whilst the volume of advantage played by poite was poor, and he should have blown for a scrum when the ball hit him, and he let Ireland bicker at him incessantly. It was our errors that let them win.
Poor discopline and hadling cost us.
They need a break for a few days. Recharge, refresh, and re-focus on taking a good game to France in 2 weeks.

Not a bad performance from Ireland.

If we’d said last November that we have to play Scotland away without being able to select Beirne, Toner, Henderson, Stander, Leavy, Henshaw, Ringrose, Marmion, McGrath, Conway and then losing Sexton early doors to HIA, I’d be happy with 3 tries and 4 points.

Pot Hale wrote:Not a bad performance from Ireland.  

 Not bad, but Schmidt intimated, not good.

Ps seeing the phrase "ref blaming" on multiple threads. Is that this week's "fake news"?

The one Scottish player who can really hold up his head was Jamie Ritchie again. He had another enourmous game and is rapidly putting his name on the shirt. Equally good at 6 or 7, some of the more senior backrowers may struggle to get back in the team when they get back to fitness.

Eejit wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Presuming Ed wrote:Scrappy second half. Ref has been a little one eyed IMO.

Lol. Poor Scotland. Maybe they simply werent good enough?

Have a word with yourself pal, you've been the only one intentionally trying to bring this thread down. Most people on these boards seem decent sorts but you've embarrassed yourself start to finish here.

Scotland were out played in the end. Take it on the chin rather than blame it on the ref. Good win for Ireland.

Again easy to say with hindsight but Harley didn't really offer much off the bench - another big Townsend selection call.

Forgot to say - Strauss put in another great shift. Carry on like that and he might make the 8 shirt his own.

Important marker to lay down in advance of the RWC group stages.

RDW wrote:Forgot to say - Strauss put in another great shift. Carry on like that and he might make the 8 shirt his own.

Scotlands man of the match IMO

Poite made a few poor calls, probably both ways, but certainly not the reason Scotland lost.

We are still not quite mature enough as a team to win games like that and probably could have done with a bit more leadership in the second half. Losing Wilson certainly did not help in that respect, he was also playing very well in that first half. Harley was always an odd pick on the bench and was just a little bit showed up at International level, as he has been in the past.

Hopefully we will have a stronger bench down the line when the injury situation improved. I would have stuck with Gary Graham for this one, it would have been good to have given him a decent run out and see what he could have done.

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:Forgot to say - Strauss put in another great shift. Carry on like that and he might make the 8 shirt his own.

Scotlands man of the match IMO

Yes he did, played the full game as well. All the starting backrow for Scotland were good. Ritchie was Scotland MoM for me though

RDW wrote:Again easy to say with hindsight but Harley didn't really offer much off the bench - another big Townsend selection call.

Agree with that, should have been Gary Graham

Just thinking, did we actually create any try scoring opportunities on the 2nd half? We would get into their 10m then get turned over, whether by penaity or forced pass

A win, but not the best performance.

Disappointing we couldn’t get the 4th try.

Onto Italy in 2 weeks, need a big win there.

Richie very good. Grey gave away a couple of penalties 2nd half which didn't help. And as everyone had said it is all about error count. Ireland made a lot more of a lot less opportunities.

One other complaint is that although Scotland did manufacture a chance after however long in the Irish 22, they did not actually look like they would be able to break down the Irish defense.

Johnson played well, but got taken off. Jones doesn't seem right, and I think plays better with Dunbar next to him.
Missing Scott, Bennett and Taylor is costing us as alternatives.