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Pro14 Edinburgh vs Cardiff Blues Sat 23rd
Edinburgh vs Cardiff Blues
Location: BT Murrayfield (on point with my sponsorship game)
Date: Sat 23rd Feb
KO time: 19.35
TV: One of the prem sports channels (you all know the situation on this by now)
Location: BT Murrayfield (on point with my sponsorship game)
Date: Sat 23rd Feb
KO time: 19.35
TV: One of the prem sports channels (you all know the situation on this by now)
In some amazing scheduling, Edinburgh play Cardiff just hours after Scotland play France and even shorter after Wales take on England.
Whilst this potentially isn't great news for the clubs as players may travel to the Int. games, not play and could be released back to the pro sides. It is however great news for the fans, with a full day of Rugby to watch.
Teams:
Edinburgh - will be shafted, we've lost half our team to the national side, along with injuries.
Cardiff - I believe are not as badly impacted by call ups, so might be able to field a near full strength team
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Re: Pro14 Edinburgh vs Cardiff Blues Sat 23rd
it really isn't ideal that one of our most important games of the seasons will come with significantly reduce players available, playing after a full round of 6N fixtures so probably won't be a big crowd. It's not just those directly playing for Scotland be we'll probably lose a few that are travelling with the squad to cover last minute injuries. The Blues will have players away too but won't be as badly affected, plus they've got a top class core of NWQ players to rely on.
We simply must win this - Treviso have a pretty decent run in and have Dragons at home next, which may be 5 points. Given that we're level on points and still have to play Treviso away we can't fall behind.
The worst case Edinburgh 23 (assuming we lose everyone that is currently in the Scotland squad) is something like
1 Schoeman
2 Ford
3 Ceccarelli
4 McKenzie
5 CHH
6 Crosbie
7 Miller
8 Mata
9 Pyrgos
10 VDW
11 VDM
12 Socino
13 Taylor
14 Brown
15 Fife (he's not going to be involved with Scotland!)
Subs - Sutherland, Cherry, McCallum, Hodgeson, Feck knows, Fowles, Hickey, Feck knows
Competitive, but also the players who have lost to Zebre, Kings and Dragons this season. We'll likely get Dean and Johnson back though.
One things for sure is that it is likely going to be a high scoring game given the Blues Glasgow game at the weekend!
We simply must win this - Treviso have a pretty decent run in and have Dragons at home next, which may be 5 points. Given that we're level on points and still have to play Treviso away we can't fall behind.
The worst case Edinburgh 23 (assuming we lose everyone that is currently in the Scotland squad) is something like
1 Schoeman
2 Ford
3 Ceccarelli
4 McKenzie
5 CHH
6 Crosbie
7 Miller
8 Mata
9 Pyrgos
10 VDW
11 VDM
12 Socino
13 Taylor
14 Brown
15 Fife (he's not going to be involved with Scotland!)
Subs - Sutherland, Cherry, McCallum, Hodgeson, Feck knows, Fowles, Hickey, Feck knows
Competitive, but also the players who have lost to Zebre, Kings and Dragons this season. We'll likely get Dean and Johnson back though.
One things for sure is that it is likely going to be a high scoring game given the Blues Glasgow game at the weekend!
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Re: Pro14 Edinburgh vs Cardiff Blues Sat 23rd
Dean's not been called up, so he's definitely going to be here, unless he's also injured, which at this point wouldn't surprise me.
I don't think this game will be as high scoring, we play a far lower risk game than Glasgow and also have some defensive ability. Still need to watch out for a few Cardiff players though. The big lad who got the hattrick against Glasgow is a concern.
I don't think this game will be as high scoring, we play a far lower risk game than Glasgow and also have some defensive ability. Still need to watch out for a few Cardiff players though. The big lad who got the hattrick against Glasgow is a concern.
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Re: Pro14 Edinburgh vs Cardiff Blues Sat 23rd
Dean was called up for the last round of games, and they usually say when players have been sent back to the clubs?
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My apologies, totally missed that. Well I think we can safely say he'll be available.
Lewis Wynne might be still about to cover a bench slot, although i think he's back at Lon Scottish now.
Lewis Wynne might be still about to cover a bench slot, although i think he's back at Lon Scottish now.
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I think you will get Dean back, not so sure about Johnstone though. He is well in the running for the Scotland 13 shirt.
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Gatland could do you a favour if he pulls a few of the Welsh internationals back, Jarrod Evans in particular, who was very good against Glasgow.
I can't see Edinburgh playing chuck about, the way we did though, that game suits Cardiff as well. If they stick it up the jumper, they should have the muscle to grind it out upfront.
I can't see Edinburgh playing chuck about, the way we did though, that game suits Cardiff as well. If they stick it up the jumper, they should have the muscle to grind it out upfront.
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Is Premier Sports a SA channel??? It seems that the majority of the games on the free channel include one of the SA sides.
Hardly the best showcase for the pro 14 when all we see are one sided games.
Hardly the best showcase for the pro 14 when all we see are one sided games.
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tigertattie wrote:Is Premier Sports a SA channel??? It seems that the majority of the games on the free channel include one of the SA sides.
Hardly the best showcase for the pro 14 when all we see are one sided games.
Don't be mean and pay a tenner a month then!
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tigertattie wrote:Is Premier Sports a SA channel??? It seems that the majority of the games on the free channel include one of the SA sides.
Hardly the best showcase for the pro 14 when all we see are one sided games.
I'd guess that Prem Sports isn't a SA channel as they show the least popular games for free and make you pay for the ones people want to watch.
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Premier Sports are Irish
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BigGee wrote:tigertattie wrote:Is Premier Sports a SA channel??? It seems that the majority of the games on the free channel include one of the SA sides.
Hardly the best showcase for the pro 14 when all we see are one sided games.
Don't be mean and pay a tenner a month then!
I would but I'm hardly at home at the weekend so a bit pointless.
Plus they are Irish!
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With the Sco team now announced, and assuming the players not picked aren’t travelling subs, then I think the Edinburgh team should look something along these lines:
1. Shoeman
2. Cherry
3. Cecherrli (I’ve still not learnt how to spell his name)
4. CHH
5. McKenzie
6. Crosbie
7. Miller
8. Mata
9. Pyrgos
10. Jaco
11. Duhan
12. Dean
13. JJ
14. Brown
15. Fife
1. Shoeman
2. Cherry
3. Cecherrli (I’ve still not learnt how to spell his name)
4. CHH
5. McKenzie
6. Crosbie
7. Miller
8. Mata
9. Pyrgos
10. Jaco
11. Duhan
12. Dean
13. JJ
14. Brown
15. Fife
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Chris Dean has been picture checking in for the trip to France so looks like he's not playing.
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Socinio will play 12 for edinburgh then I guess
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Where's Andreas Strauss when you need him?
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Johnstone not in the match day squad, so you may get him back.
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Just saw a video of Scottish team arriving in Paris.
Henry P was on the plane, so he won't be playing unless they are going to fly him back on Saturday
Henry P was on the plane, so he won't be playing unless they are going to fly him back on Saturday
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It really is going to be a huge ask for us to win this game.
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Bugger. Fowles or Kennedy to start then. Given he's been benching the last wee while, I assume Fowles
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I had completely missed that this was happening! Tough scheduling. The pack will be fine, but the back line may be slightly scratch. Fowles getting a start is fine. Pyrgos was poor in the last game and we need to keep our reserve 9 match fit.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:I had completely missed that this was happening! Tough scheduling. The pack will be fine, but the back line may be slightly scratch. Fowles getting a start is fine. Pyrgos was poor in the last game and we need to keep our reserve 9 match fit.
No! Fowles can bugger off!!!
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Bennet's back! As is Hoyland.
I'm worried about this one - will be a huge result if we win it.
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Scotland international winger, Damien Hoyland, will make his long-awaited return from injury as Edinburgh face Cardiff Blues at BT Murrayfield in the Guinness PRO14 tomorrow evening (Saturday 23 February, kick-off 7.35pm).
The inclusion of Hoyland is one of six changes made to the side that defeated Dragons at BT Murrayfield as Edinburgh aim to continue their unbeaten record at home in all competitions this season.
Ahead of the fixture, Head Coach Richard Cockerill, said: “We’re missing a few more bodies this week due to international call-ups, but we have a strong desire to win and the capability to do so.
“These games are all important in the run towards the play-offs, so I’m expecting the boys to leave everything out there in order to get the right result.”
In the front-row, prop Pierre Schoeman packs down alongside Pietro Ceccarelli and hooker David Cherry, whilst skipper Fraser McKenzie links-up with Callum-Hunter Hill in the second row.
Viliame ‘Big Bill’ Mata anchors a back-row featuring Ally Miller and openside flanker, Luke Crosbie.
Nathan Fowles and Jaco van der Walt will pull the strings at half-back, while last week’s double try scorer James Johnstone lines up alongside Juan Pablo Socino in the midfield.
Recent Scotland call-up Dougie Fife has been released by the national squad to start at full-back and is joined by wingers Duhan van der Merwe and Hoyland.
The capital side also welcomes back Mark Bennett who is named amongst the replacements - the centre has been sidelined due to injury since the game against Ulster at the Kingspan Stadium in September last year.
Edinburgh team to face Cardiff Blues at BT Murrayfield in the Guinness PRO14 on Saturday 23 February (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Premier Sports 2
15. Dougie Fife (121)
14. Damien Hoyland (58)
13. James Johnstone (36)
12. Juan Pablo Socino (15)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (35)
10. Jaco van der Walt (33)
9. Nathan Fowles (69)
1. Pierre Schoeman (16)
2. David Cherry (14)
3. Pietro Ceccarelli (8)
4. Fraser McKenzie (110) CAPTAIN
5. Callum Hunter-Hill (13)
6. Ally Miller (6)
7. Luke Crosbie (24)
8. Viliame Mata (54)
Replacements: 16 Ross Ford (192), 17 Rory Sutherland (72), 18 Murray McCallum (48), 19 Jamie Hodgson (4), 20 Senitiki Nayalo (1), 21 Charlie Shiel (1), 22 Simon Hickey (15), 23 Mark Bennett (14)
Unavailable due to injury: WP Nel, Lewis Carmichael, John Barclay, Hamish Watson, Luke Hamilton, Matt Scott
Unavailable due to international selection: Simon Berghan, Magnus Bradbury, Chris Dean, Allan Dell, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Blair Kinghorn, Stuart McInally, Jamie Ritchie, Ben Toolis
The inclusion of Hoyland is one of six changes made to the side that defeated Dragons at BT Murrayfield as Edinburgh aim to continue their unbeaten record at home in all competitions this season.
Ahead of the fixture, Head Coach Richard Cockerill, said: “We’re missing a few more bodies this week due to international call-ups, but we have a strong desire to win and the capability to do so.
“These games are all important in the run towards the play-offs, so I’m expecting the boys to leave everything out there in order to get the right result.”
In the front-row, prop Pierre Schoeman packs down alongside Pietro Ceccarelli and hooker David Cherry, whilst skipper Fraser McKenzie links-up with Callum-Hunter Hill in the second row.
Viliame ‘Big Bill’ Mata anchors a back-row featuring Ally Miller and openside flanker, Luke Crosbie.
Nathan Fowles and Jaco van der Walt will pull the strings at half-back, while last week’s double try scorer James Johnstone lines up alongside Juan Pablo Socino in the midfield.
Recent Scotland call-up Dougie Fife has been released by the national squad to start at full-back and is joined by wingers Duhan van der Merwe and Hoyland.
The capital side also welcomes back Mark Bennett who is named amongst the replacements - the centre has been sidelined due to injury since the game against Ulster at the Kingspan Stadium in September last year.
Edinburgh team to face Cardiff Blues at BT Murrayfield in the Guinness PRO14 on Saturday 23 February (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Premier Sports 2
15. Dougie Fife (121)
14. Damien Hoyland (58)
13. James Johnstone (36)
12. Juan Pablo Socino (15)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (35)
10. Jaco van der Walt (33)
9. Nathan Fowles (69)
1. Pierre Schoeman (16)
2. David Cherry (14)
3. Pietro Ceccarelli (8)
4. Fraser McKenzie (110) CAPTAIN
5. Callum Hunter-Hill (13)
6. Ally Miller (6)
7. Luke Crosbie (24)
8. Viliame Mata (54)
Replacements: 16 Ross Ford (192), 17 Rory Sutherland (72), 18 Murray McCallum (48), 19 Jamie Hodgson (4), 20 Senitiki Nayalo (1), 21 Charlie Shiel (1), 22 Simon Hickey (15), 23 Mark Bennett (14)
Unavailable due to injury: WP Nel, Lewis Carmichael, John Barclay, Hamish Watson, Luke Hamilton, Matt Scott
Unavailable due to international selection: Simon Berghan, Magnus Bradbury, Chris Dean, Allan Dell, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Blair Kinghorn, Stuart McInally, Jamie Ritchie, Ben Toolis
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Good side. Still annoyed about McCallum not getting the start. Got to think that Kennedy may get one more year purely thanks to the World Cup.
Great to see Hoyland and Bennett back though. They both add to the 23 when in form and Edinburgh will need that for the run-in on two fronts.
Great to see Hoyland and Bennett back though. They both add to the 23 when in form and Edinburgh will need that for the run-in on two fronts.
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He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
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Very pleased to see Hoyland back. As you say RDW, a win would be massive here.
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Don't think I'll watch this tonight - I don't think I can cope with more disappointment!
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I might hsve to cheer myself up by watching my recording of Glasgow game!
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Decided to watch this game, hope I don't live to regret it!
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RDW wrote:Don't think I'll watch this tonight - I don't think I can cope with more disappointment!
Just came here to say this had better not turn out to be more pish rugby! Fingers crossed...
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Socino just won a ruck penalty!
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And Fowles...... just scored a try off an awesome Cherry break!
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Good start Edinburgh, a try by Fowles running a great support line from a Dave Cherry break
7-0 Edinburgh
7-0 Edinburgh
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Decided against better judgement to watch this!
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VDM slots the kick, 7-0. Good start
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Socino is actually playing well!
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Who is the other bloke co commentating with Barclay?
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RDW wrote:Who is the other bloke co commentating with Barclay?
Ally Hogg
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Its all Edinburgh
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Didn't recognise him at all - didn't know he was so high pitched! Must just be nervous.BigGee wrote:RDW wrote:Who is the other bloke co commentating with Barclay?
Ally Hogg
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What's going on - Fowles and Socino playing well!
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Hang on, Fowles seems to be having a decent game!
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Treviso humped Dragons earlier - we need a win (preferably BP) to stay in touch
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VDM almost put the game away there!
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Fowles saves a try now
Credit where its due, he is playing well
Credit where its due, he is playing well
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A howler from Cardiff
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Shame the kick went dead - Blues were in trouble
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Crazy tackle by Crosbie
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