Racing’s stadium...

Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

This is a great game so far

That was pure quality from Finn Russell.

Wow I was not expecting that from the first view

A cracking game, Finn Russell showing Glasgow what he is missing, just picks off another interception and puts Thomas away for a cracking try.

Toulouse picking up a red card as well, so not looking good for them.

Red probably the right call for a high shot

BigGee wrote:Toulouse picking up a red card as well, so not looking good for them.

Red probably the right call for a high shot

French commentators unhappy it was a red but the TMO and ref were in agreement there.

No9 wrote:Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

Ignore the rules of a completely different competition?

Shame about the red, I didn’t think it was from first viewing but he has smashed him in the throat.

Toulouse have it all to do now and you get the feeling that’s Racing May run away with this.

Rugby Fan wrote:

BigGee wrote:Toulouse picking up a red card as well, so not looking good for them.

Red probably the right call for a high shot

French commentators unhappy it was a red but the TMO and ref were in agreement there.

The ref tried very hard not to give it, was looking for a reason, but unfortunately there was not one there.

Thomas gets a yellow as well to even things up for 10 mins and Toulouse take advantage and score again

BigGee wrote:Thomas gets a yellow as well to even things up for 10 mins and Toulouse take advantage and score again

I do hope it stays as competitive as this but I fear the red card will ultimately count.

What a try that was.

Looking at these two teams puts yesterday into perspective a little. They’re a bit mad but class acts aren’t they.

Superb try.  

The stadium looks great when they pan out too

Dupont goes over again, what a tricky little customer he is

marty2086 wrote:

No9 wrote:Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

Ignore the rules of a completely different competition?

The ruling about roofs is not a competition ruling but rules of Rugby. Competition rule changes can only be used to define the competition, not change how the game is played, including the conditions it is played.

Otherwise, why not say in this competition your allowed to forward pass, or kick a player in the ballaches...

I have shouted "WOAH" three times, at three tries in this match.

BigGee wrote:

Rugby Fan wrote:

BigGee wrote:Toulouse picking up a red card as well, so not looking good for them.

Red probably the right call for a high shot

French commentators unhappy it was a red but the TMO and ref were in agreement there.

The ref tried very hard not to give it, was looking for a reason, but unfortunately there was not one there.

Yellow, yes. Red, no. The ref said there was intent, there wasn’t. It was high, and shoulder to the neck, but it was an attempt at a tackle that wasn’t executed properly.

No9 wrote:..The ruling about roofs is not a competition ruling but rules of Rugby...

Just to nip this one in the bud, you are wrong.

The owner/home team of a stadium can do whatever they want with it unless the rules of a competition determine otherwise. In the case of the Six Nations, both teams must agree to close the roof. If they don't, it stays open.

Similarly, a stadium can carry whatever advertising it wants, unless competition rules say otherwise. That's why so many regular sponsors have to be bounced during a World Cup.

That stadium really is ace but with the lights out like that I would 100% drop the beers down those stairs.

No9 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

No9 wrote:Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

Ignore the rules of a completely different competition?

The ruling about roofs is not a competition ruling but rules of Rugby. Competition rule changes can only be used to define the competition, not change how the game is played, including the conditions it is played.

Otherwise, why not say in this competition your allowed to forward pass, or kick a player in the ballaches...

'Under Six Nations rules, both teams must agree to the roof being closed.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/47574452

Toulouse are playing like their lives depend on it.

No9 wrote:

BigGee wrote:

Rugby Fan wrote:

BigGee wrote:Toulouse picking up a red card as well, so not looking good for them.

Red probably the right call for a high shot

French commentators unhappy it was a red but the TMO and ref were in agreement there.

The ref tried very hard not to give it, was looking for a reason, but unfortunately there was not one there.

Yellow, yes. Red, no. The ref said there was intent, there wasn’t. It was high, and shoulder to the neck, but it was an attempt at a tackle that wasn’t executed properly.

There does not have to be intent, not executing a tackle properly does not get you off!

It was a dangerous tackle, whether he meant it or not.

He might have got a yellow on another day with another ref, but by the letter of the law and by going properly through the process and looking for any mitigation (which there was not really), it was a red. You just can't complain these days when those ones get given, it is a clear directive and for good reasons

What was that yellow for? (The one against Racing just now)

Rugby Fan wrote:What was that yellow for? (The one against Racing just now)

Killing the ball, cynical play from Imoff

Woah, what a game in Paris

You can't say that Toulouse did not deserve that, they are going to be contenders

Wow - big result for Toulouse ...

That was some match to watch. It was the pick of the weekend, so it's sad to see one of those teams go.

No9 wrote:Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

The issue at the principality stadium is that the roof can be open, and in fact it has to be to allow the grass to grow. If artificial turf was allowed for international games (not sure whether it is) Wales could have built a fixed roof stadium with air conditioning and everything else that requires.

What we have in Cardiff instead is an open air stadium with a roof that can be closed. While I think the stadium at La Defense is spectacular, I am one of those luddites who does not approve of indoor rugby. I feel players should have the skills required to cope with all conditions.

LondonTiger wrote:I am one of those luddites who does not approve of indoor rugby. I feel players should have the skills required to cope with all conditions.

Dunedin was indoor at the World Cup in New Zealand. It has a fixed roof, so there was no debate. In Japan, The Toyota Stadium has a retractable roof, and Wales play Georgia there. Not sure what the protocol is during a World Cup.

Rugby Fan wrote:That was some match to watch. It was the pick of the weekend, so it's sad to see one of those teams go.

Toulouse were brilliant but not convince Racing were

Rugby Fan wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:I am one of those luddites who does not approve of indoor rugby. I feel players should have the skills required to cope with all conditions.

Dunedin was indoor at the World Cup in New Zealand. It has a fixed roof, so there was no debate. In Japan, The Toyota Stadium has a retractable roof, and Wales play Georgia there. Not sure what the protocol is during a World Cup.

I should imagine the Japanese will do what the hell they like as they are not as weak and subservient as us Welsh!

geoff999rugby wrote:

Rugby Fan wrote:That was some match to watch. It was the pick of the weekend, so it's sad to see one of those teams go.

Toulouse were brilliant but not convince Racing were

How can both teams not always be brilliant with the players at their disposal though. French rugby is a joke.

The Oracle wrote:
I should imagine the Japanese will do what the hell they like as they are not as weak and subservient as us Welsh!

If you are subservient I command you to stop whining about the roof at Cardiff!

mikey_dragon wrote:

geoff999rugby wrote:

Rugby Fan wrote:That was some match to watch. It was the pick of the weekend, so it's sad to see one of those teams go.

Toulouse were brilliant but not convince Racing were

How can both teams not always be brilliant with the players at their disposal though. French rugby is a joke.

Most top14 games are turgid affairs
Player fitness is poor
Toulouse are an honourable exception and a different class from the rest of the league, with the possible exception of Clermont.
They are 20 points clear of Lyon in third place (only Clermont remotely close and that is 7 points behind)

Toulouse and Clermont are good.

It will be interesting if Clermont can win the challenge cup and help them with their mental frailty

LondonTiger wrote:

No9 wrote:Just heard them say on BT sports that Racing’s new stadium has a fixed (closed) roof.

So how come they are allowed that, when we always get the argument with the milenium stadium roof being open or closed and being told rugby is an outdoor game and as such the if a side objects to it being closed it has to be open....

Does this mean, if the away side at Racing object to the roof, then they have to play at another ground. ... or is this just another example where France ignores the rules when it suits them..

The issue at the principality stadium is that the roof can be open, and in fact it has to be to allow the grass to grow. If artificial turf was allowed for international games (not sure whether it is) Wales could have built a fixed roof stadium with air conditioning and everything else that requires.

What we have in Cardiff instead is an open air stadium with a roof that can be closed. While I think the stadium at La Defense is spectacular, I am one of those luddites who does not approve of indoor rugby. I feel players should have the skills required to cope with all conditions.

Do they not use UV lamps at times for the pitch in Cardiff to help the grass grow? I know quite a few major stadiums do due to the weather and general wear and tear

LaDefense in rugby terms is a novelty, after a while people will be apathetic to it

The OP though is based on a misconception and the rules of the whole thing