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Post by LondonTiger Wed 03 Apr 2019, 11:08 am

First topic message reminder :

Table
England 2pts (+2.08nrr)
Afghanistan
Australia
Bangladesh
India
New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
South Africa 0pts (-2.08 nrr)


Pool Fixtures

Thu, May 30 
10:30 England vs South Africa  (The Oval)

Fri, May 31 
10:30 West Indies vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Sat, Jun 1 
10:30 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)

Sun, Jun 2 
10:30 South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 3 
10:30 England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Tue, Jun 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)

Wed, Jun 5 
10:30 South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30 Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)

Thu, Jun 6 
10:30 Australia vs West Indies (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 7 
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Sat, Jun 8 
10:30 England vs Bangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)

Sun, Jun 9 
10:30 Australia vs India (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 10 
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 11 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Wed, Jun 12 
10:30 Australia vs Pakistan (Taunton)

Thu, Jun 13 
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 14 
10:30 England vs West Indies (Southampton)

Sat, Jun 15 
10:30 Australia vs Sri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30 Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)

Sun, Jun 16 
10:30 India vs Pakistan (Old Trafford)

Mon, Jun 17 
10:30 Bangladesh vs West Indies (Taunton)

Tue, Jun 18 
10:30 England vs Afghanistan (Old Trafford)

Wed, Jun 19 
10:30 New Zealand vs South Africa (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 20 
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 21 
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)

Sat, Jun 22 
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Sun, Jun 23 
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)

Mon, Jun 24 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 25 
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)

Wed, Jun 26 
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 27 
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Fri, Jun 28 
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)

Sat, Jun 29 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)

Sun, Jun 30 
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)

Mon, Jul 1 
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:46 am

It's like the days of old out there. 9/0 after four overs. Accurate start from the Bangladeshis on a slow pitch.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:47 am

Duty281 wrote:Moeen apparently taken out of the starting XI because his wife is imminently expected to give birth to their second child. So after all the drama, it seems as though England would have been unchanged, if it weren't for off-the-field family circumstances.

Ah. Didn't know that. Even so I suspect one of them would have given way : England want Plunkett back in and didn't want to rotate any of the other quicks out just yet.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:54 am

Roy using up his luck early on...gets away with a harrow drive followed by a nearly-caught-at-mid wicket...

These two run very well. Helping to keep the score moving even though they've not managed many solid strokes yet.

That's better from Roy ! Lovely off drive. Hopefully he will have a happier day fielding later...

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:00 am

9 off the first 4 overs. 43 off the next 4! Roy having a bit of fortune, but some good shots and excellent running by both.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:02 am

Bairstow enjoying the arrival of Shaifuddin to the bowling crease...

Bit in this pitch for the seamers ?. If it persists I fancy Archer and Wood might relish bowling on it later.

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Post by KP_fan Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:03 am

BD as a side prefer to put runs on the board and defend
yett they chose to bowl....because of the perceptpion of tinge of green and seam assistance.....and they did not want to bat first and be bowled out for 200


so the chose to put Eng in but haven't extracted any seam movememnt

and 3rd game in a row , Eng looking like crossing 300
BD should consider how to limit that to a lowish 300 and not a 350
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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

Whilst not palpably weak and appreciating Moeen not playing has an adverse impact, the England tail certainly isn't so strong for this game as usual and doesn't look quite right. I'm particularly unconvinced by Plunkett at number 8 - as he's listed on the card.

Given our seam strength* against this opposition at this ground, I wouldn't expect it to be a major issue today but wouldn't want it to be the norm.

* Plus also how our opening bats are going atm.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:08 am

Surprised Bangladesh haven't used their best seamer - Mustafizur Rahman - in the opening ten overs, choosing instead to use the two weak options of Mortaza and Saifuddin. They need a wicket sharpish, otherwise England could take this away from them.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:16 am

guildfordbat wrote:Whilst not palpably weak and appreciating Moeen not playing has an adverse impact, the England tail certainly isn't so strong for this game as usual and doesn't look quite right. I'm particularly unconvinced by Plunkett at number 8 - as he's listed on the card.

Given our seam strength* against this opposition at this ground, I wouldn't expect it to be a major issue today but wouldn't want it to be the norm.

* Plus also how our opening bats are going atm.

Yes Liam does look a place high at 8. But really unless Moeen (or Dawson!) plays they will always have that issue . Tom Curran maybe a bit better if he plays but none of the pace men (apart from Woakes of course) really appeal as genuine all rounders. They are all still pretty handy though !

Fifty for Roy clap Dodgy start but he's going nicely now...


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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:30 am

101/0 after 15 overs. Worrying for Bangladesh that Shakib has used up most of his quota and got nothing.

England now require 399 runs from 210 balls with all ten wickets remaining. Whistle

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:33 am

Hundred up in 15.  Typical England start ...one might call it the usual template.  Good work to get there after the slow first few overs.

My only real worry about England's batting is that they are so used to these two starting like this that they sometimes seem a bit frazzled when one or both comes out early. * Thankfully doesn't happen too often.

Nearly a run out !  Throw to the wrong end ...that could have been it for the partnership...

*a relative thing Smile They still get 300 ; but the really big scores seem to elude them.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:52 am

Pretty smart catch and a wicket has arrived out of nowhere. Bairstow departs just as he was looking to kick on.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:53 am

YJB brilliantly caught at cover...Bangladesh needed that !

Ball seemed to stop on him then? No ...on second viewing he's probably just misjudged the angle...  Couple of balls have misbehaved so I don't think this is a total road...which makes this a very good start at 128/1 from 19.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:10 pm

Anyone else think they should send in Buttler at the fall of the next wicket? Or just me?
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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:18 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Anyone else think they should send in Buttler at the fall of the next wicket? Or just me?

Nasser seems to think so too...

Maybe. But really do you need to ? I mean , Morgan can give it a whack himself : I reckon the part of the innings in which Jos really excels over everyone is smashing it in the last ten overs. Rather have him assured of being in then than maybe getting in and out earlier on.

Don't think it matters today : the way Bangladesh are fielding they are going to make plenty whoever bats...

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:25 pm

Hundred for Roy clap

Bowled over the umpire while running too ...bonus points ?

Good comeback from his horror day against Pakistan. thumbsup


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:27 pm

alfie wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Anyone else think they should send in Buttler at the fall of the next wicket? Or just me?

Nasser seems to think so too...

Maybe.  But really do you need to ?  I mean , Morgan can give it a whack himself : I reckon the part of the innings in which Jos really excels over everyone is smashing it in the last ten overs. Rather have him assured of being in then than maybe getting in and out earlier on.

Don't think it matters today : the way Bangladesh are fielding they are going to make plenty whoever bats...

I mean they probably don’t need too today, but I’d rather Buttler having the opportunity to face 50-70 balls than say 30-40 - with morgan and stokes to come if he does get out. Saw the other day he hit a 76 ball hundred without even really getting out of second gear...our best bat for me.

But as you say either way today I’m just being picky...!
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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:28 pm

Run rate has actually dialed back since Jonny got out...but here comes Shaifuddin again with the pie-cart so I'd expect them to kick on now...

Surely 360 plus ?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:32 pm

174/1 after 28. Buttler should certainly come in next, followed by Stokes. No disrespect to Morgan, but England should get their most explosive T20 hitters out in the middle first to push that score towards 400.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:37 pm

Yes I do get your reasoning , Olly.  It is an interesting choice (not so much today where it hardly matters , but in general)
Two ways of looking at it . Yes Buttler is the most explosive of the bats ; but the question is whether the advantage of having him in earlier - increasing the scoring rate somewhat , as long as he gets set - is greater than (a) the risk he will get out cheaply and not be available for the death overs ; and (b) that whoever then comes in late on might not be able to tee off quite as successfully immediately...
I'm not opposed to a flexible batting order. But in general I'd prefer to stick to a plan which usually results in an excellent scoring rate . When Jos doesn't get to face many overs it usually means they have made a monster score anyway !

If it were , say , one down still in the thirty eighth , then I would probably go along with your scheme...which I guess may well happen today Smile

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:41 pm

185/1 off 30.

Double that in final 20 and get to 370. With some oomph from Buttler and Stokes, 400 could be achieveable but Duty's holy grail of 500 seems as if it'll have to wait. Smile

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:50 pm

Bangladesh panic and throw away their review on a desperate appeal.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 12:55 pm

Well you got your wish Olly Smile

Mind you if his first ball had stayed a couple of inches straighter it would have been a very short innings for Jos ! Looked closer than the hawk eye shows...not too surprised they went for the review.

As it is this is nicely set up for a big last seventeen overs...

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:05 pm

Thought Roy could get 200 here..., three big sixes and he raced to 150 ! But one big swing too many and he's caught in the deep...

235/3. Quite an innings . Perhaps he should drop a sitter more often if it inspires that sort of effort Smile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:06 pm

Thought we were on for six sixes in the over there! Fantastic knock by Roy, england are in a fantastic position here
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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:07 pm

I suppose after three big sixes, there was little chance of Roy just pushing one down to long-on for a single. A shame, because 200 for Roy looked very on. It would have been his first double-century in all professional cricket.

12 an over from here gets England to 416.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:16 pm

Buttler was playing himself in rather patiently ...but looks as if he's ready to go now...six , four ...and into the Taff Smile

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:21 pm

Seems he might have done himself a mischief , though ? Not moving well , flexing the leg.

Can't be too serious or they'd have him off like a shot ; but he's definitely not running too freely . Hopefully will settle down...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:33 pm

alfie wrote:Seems he might have done himself a mischief , though ?  Not moving well , flexing the leg.

Can't be too serious or they'd have him off like a shot ; but he's definitely not running too freely . Hopefully will settle down...

Often do myself a mischief when over extending too Alfie...albeit mine tends to be stretching for the biscuits from the top shelf Doh
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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:40 pm

Buttler clearly hobbling, though he's striking the ball clean enough. Get Bairstow behind the stumps for the Bangladesh innings.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:42 pm

Duty281 wrote:Buttler clearly hobbling, though he's striking the ball clean enough. Get Bairstow behind the stumps for the Bangladesh innings.

Yeah this isn’t promising...clearly struggling with something. Get him on that physio table for the whole innings...
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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:50 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Buttler clearly hobbling, though he's striking the ball clean enough. Get Bairstow behind the stumps for the Bangladesh innings.

Yeah this isn’t promising...clearly struggling with something. Get him on that physio table for the whole innings...

Totally agree.

I would look for him to retire hurt now. The potential harm to him and England in this WC is far greater than any extra benefit from him carrying on in this game.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:50 pm

Yes he has certainly damaged himself a bit ... Might be worse when he cools off so I would definitely look to rest him when they field. Hope he doesn't do it too much further harm by batting on - though I'm sure the spectators are enjoying his hitting...

324 and five overs left so no 400 today but should be around 370.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:52 pm

Buttler caught on the boundary. Both sides should be happy about that.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 1:55 pm

Well he's done now so can go and rest it...good boundary catch . The Bangladesh ground fielding has been pretty rancid today but they've taken a couple of very good catches.
Shaifuddin has taken a bit of tap today but he has two wickets. Not sure that makes up for eight per over...

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:03 pm

Cap'n Morgan gone now...

England running out of hitters with three to go ; but you'd think Stokes might have had enough of a look to have a go from here ...but no ! He's gone too.

Collapsing Smile

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:04 pm

falling away bit at the end 341-6. But way too many for Bangladesh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:04 pm

Willing to donate whatever body part is needed to repair Jos
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:05 pm

Bit of a damp squib of an ending

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:09 pm

Woakes striking the ball rather well Smile

Still going to get that 370 plus I think.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:09 pm

Woakes has other ideas! That last six off the over is creamed. Nasser going mad about the fielding on the two, saying the bowler should be blaming him for the subsequent six

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:10 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Bit of a damp squib of an ending

Never doubt Sir Chris
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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:15 pm

Ha. Woakes and Plunkett going at about 20 per over...

Just as well those slow coaches Roy and Buttler got out of the way Smile

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:15 pm

Great last push from Woakes/Plunkett to eradicate any Bangladeshi hopes of coming back in this game.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:19 pm

7 consecutive scores of 300 is a world record.

England end this on 386 with Plunkett using the bat to remind of his qualities.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:20 pm

Nice finish thumbsup

386 should be plenty.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:23 pm

Plunkett at number 8 rubbishing my concern. Just a pity he never did that for Surrey in this year's RL 50! Wink

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Post by Duty281 Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:23 pm

Superb from Plunkett. England have more than enough.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:25 pm

Big score, built largely on the back of composed and thoughtful batting. While there were a lot of boundaries that was not merely a slogathon. That last straight 4 from Plunkett was sublime.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jun 2019, 2:26 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:7 consecutive scores of 300 is a world record.

England end this on 386 with Plunkett using the bat to remind of his qualities.

Nasser making the point that the absence of Plunkett from the Pakistan match might have cost England in the run chase...some sense to that ; but in truth he'd have batted at nine and probably wouldn't have had enough balls left to make a difference.
Though there's a fair argument that his middle over bowling plus late hitting make him a player who shouldn't be left out.  Will be a bit of decision making over the course of this tournament as to who should the last five spots in the order go to when the big games are on...

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