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Post by LondonTiger Fri 21 Jun 2019, 2:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

Table

Australia8141.00
India7110.85
New Zealand8110.57
England8101.00
Pakistan89-0.80
Sri Lanka88-0.93
Bangladesh77-0.13
South Africa85-0.08
West Indies83-0.36
Afghanistan80-1.42
Remaining Pool Fixtures

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by eirebilly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 1:52 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Possibly not an awful wicket to get there. Root has done very well to get some runs when there was a possible wobble, but 6 overs where Buttler, Woakes and Plunkett (the latter two hopefully not needed) could produce some fireworks

A possible wobble? He came in after the first wicket...

He has been very poor today, got some runs but he was the batsman that put others under pressure for me.

Welcome Jos Buttler, hopefully 320+ now.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 1:53 pm

Well done Stokes, this is some knock clap
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 1:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:Root gone, that's a bad wicket for India to take. Pandya should have deliberately spilled it!

England would have taken anything over 300 pre-match, but they might be slightly disappointed not to cross the 350 margin after being 202/1 after 30.

That thought crossed my mind too.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 1:55 pm

Nice start for Jos Smile

Must have been practicing in the dressing room...

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 1:58 pm

293 , four to go. Time to go ballistic.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:00 pm

Bumrah is pretty decent...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:01 pm

If they can just get to 338, Duty. Smile

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/433568/india-vs-england-11th-match-group-b-icc-cricket-world-cup-2010-11

... as Nass just pointed out.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:04 pm

One slog too many for Buttler 310-5

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:04 pm

Pal Joey wrote:If they can just get to 338, Duty. Smile

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/433568/india-vs-england-11th-match-group-b-icc-cricket-world-cup-2010-11

... as Nass just pointed out.

Ah, what a bizarre game that was! Would rather England won, though, than do well on the tipping comp!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:05 pm

Gah shame Jos got out there, but he put some much needed momentum back into the score - 330+ should be a given now
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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:05 pm

Jos gone ...20 from 8 balls ...quite handy , though they'd have hoped he'd stay the last three overs.

Taking 17 from a Shami over wasn't bad. They won't do that to Bumrah.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:06 pm

Think I just heard Woakes say "Bucket!"

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:11 pm

Michelle for Shami, 13 wickets in 3 games.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:12 pm

Shami on a hat trick now...fine catch in the deep sees Woakes off.

Does Stokes care ? Not much...4...6

Useful innings , this.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:12 pm

This is simply stunning from Stokes.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:19 pm

Bumrah is a bit good isn’t he
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Post by JDizzle Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:19 pm

Bumrah really is excellent.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:19 pm

Brilliant death bowling Bumrah clap

Hope Archer and Wood are taking notes.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:20 pm

Bumrah's ability fully on show, but yet another outstanding effort from Stokes. What a fine tournament both are having.

Legal delivery? Could have gone either way, I think.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:20 pm

Bumrah is worth two bowlers that's how good he is

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Post by JDizzle Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:21 pm

Benefit of doubt to the bowler, fair enough. Excellent spell from Bumrah, but still a good last 10 for England and they'd have bit your hand off for 337.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:21 pm

Nah, part of shoe soul just behind the line. Benefit of doubt goes to bowler.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:22 pm

337. Excellent effort from a much-criticised England batting order.

Solid favourites, yes, but you wouldn't rule out a Kohli special and an Indian comeback. I hope England attack with the ball and actually pitch the thing up. I think Plunkett and Stokes will like bowling on this track.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:25 pm

The pitch flat, hard-rolled, grass-less, any bit of help for the spinner devoid.
Eng wins an important toss....bat with conviction on their favorite type of surface, get some erly luck....and it takes Ind about 20-25 overs to realize unlike other games, here bowlers are not winning them the game

So they change strategy and pull back....successfully.....eventually Eng get to a good score off 337....They are a different side batting first.

Seamers did well for India and Eng has done well to include an extra seamer.

Batsmen have to win the game for india....but I don't think they will inspite of some commentators telling you this is a par score....

I hope they can compete and make a game out of it......but will fall short today.
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Post by sirfredperry Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:40 pm

Apparently, if India win it will be a record-breaking chase in a WC match, so that shows just what an effort it will be.

It may get quite tense, but I reckon England have enough runs. If England are/were going to win this was always the likeliest scenario - that Eng would bat first and run up a big total that was beyond India's reach.

Of course, it could still all got to pot for England!

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:53 pm

Before a ball was bowled or before that spell after Roy wasn't given out, we'd have taken 337.

Roy and Bairstow went for it for about 10 overs and got England way ahead of the rate. Other than that spell, it was harder to score really.

If India can keep wickets in hand and have a similar period or go after one of England's bowlers, then they'll have a good chance. But England have the luxury of rotating their bowlers with Stokes and Root as 6th and 7th options.

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Post by JDizzle Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:56 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:57 pm

England’s fielding again...Rohit dropped early on, absolute regulation chance

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Sun 30 Jun 2019, 2:58 pm

That was really poor by Root

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Post by JDizzle Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:00 pm

Our slip fielding has been atrocious in all forms for a few years now.

Would have been nice to have them 4-2!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:00 pm

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:03 pm

Jason Roy suffered "an external blow to his right arm" during his batting innings and will not field.

Had he not suffered that external blow, the umpires would not have let him have a sub to sit off with his pre-existing internal injury.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:11 pm

No luck for Archer - draws the edge from Kohli, again doesn’t go to hand
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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:12 pm

Decent start from Woakes. 3-3-0-1.

Archer has started well too. Unlucky not to have Sharma, and just took Kohli's edge as well but went past the slips.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm

Missed these first few overs...I see Sir Chris has been on the money !

But a bad miss by Root , of a big danger man in Rohit ? Hope that doesn't come back to bite them...

Really think they ought to be able to defend 337 on this . But these two batsmen realistically hold the key.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:20 pm

robbo277 wrote:Jason Roy suffered "an external blow to his right arm" during his batting innings and will not field.

Had he not suffered that external blow, the umpires would not have let him have a sub to sit off with his pre-existing internal injury.

Whistle

That was the other advantage of batting first - not having to send Roy out to field for three hours.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:22 pm

I get what India are doing, but are they leaving themselves with too much to do?

The rate started at 6.76. 22 off the first 8 and they're now at 7.52.

4 from Kohli on the first ball of the 9th. Maybe they know what they're doing...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:25 pm

Notice how quiet the crowd has been? A true gauge of the match situation. Woakes has started very well but interested to see how Archer does... this being the first time he's bowled against these Indian big guns. Holding his own so far... unlucky with that dropped catch. Hope he bounces back.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:30 pm

Archer clocking 96MPH, according to the speed gun.

Very accurate, co-ordinated, planned bowling from England in the opening ten. India not able to apply any pressure to the fielders, bowlers or Morgan. Kohli is the key man, but with the RRR escalating, a couple of wickets in the next 10 overs could kill the game.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:30 pm

robbo277 wrote:I get what India are doing, but are they leaving themselves with too much to do?

The rate started at 6.76. 22 off the first 8 and they're now at 7.52.

4 from Kohli on the first ball of the 9th. Maybe they know what they're doing...

Maybe they don't have much choice so far ? Bowling looks pretty good...

Much better length from Archer today I think. Bowling coach had a word perhaps ? I always think the short ball best used to surprise them - especially when you can produce it at will , and at high pace.

Excellent first ten for England thumbsup

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:30 pm

England after 10: 47-0
India after 10: 28-1

England got to their 150 in 20.1 overs, so the next 61 balls went for 103 for England. So India, who are already behind, are going to have to start coming at the change bowlers. It's going to be more seam though, with Plunkett coming in.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:31 pm

alfie wrote:
robbo277 wrote:I get what India are doing, but are they leaving themselves with too much to do?

The rate started at 6.76. 22 off the first 8 and they're now at 7.52.

4 from Kohli on the first ball of the 9th. Maybe they know what they're doing...

Maybe they don't have much choice so far ?  Bowling looks pretty good...

Much better length from Archer today I think.  Bowling coach had a word perhaps ? I always think the short ball best used to surprise them - especially when you can produce it at will , and at high pace.

Excellent first ten for England thumbsup

Fair, but they'll have to go soon, even if Plunkett and Wood back up Woakes and Archer's good start.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:34 pm

alfie wrote:
robbo277 wrote:I get what India are doing, but are they leaving themselves with too much to do?

The rate started at 6.76. 22 off the first 8 and they're now at 7.52.

4 from Kohli on the first ball of the 9th. Maybe they know what they're doing...

Maybe they don't have much choice so far ?  Bowling looks pretty good...

Much better length from Archer today I think.  Bowling coach had a word perhaps ? I always think the short ball best used to surprise them - especially when you can produce it at will , and at high pace.

Excellent first ten for England thumbsup

Archer also bowling noticeably quicker and more freely today I’d say too - you could tell he was struggling against the Aussies, not today. Should’ve had at least 1
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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:36 pm

Oh , they'll have to step it up , that's for sure. They are trying , judging by a couple of the swipes aimed at Plunkett's first over. But it ain't easy. Thus is not a complete road , though it is certainly a good pitch .
Good pace bowlers can get enough out of it , with the new ball at any rate.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:43 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
alfie wrote:
robbo277 wrote:I get what India are doing, but are they leaving themselves with too much to do?

The rate started at 6.76. 22 off the first 8 and they're now at 7.52.

4 from Kohli on the first ball of the 9th. Maybe they know what they're doing...

Maybe they don't have much choice so far ?  Bowling looks pretty good...

Much better length from Archer today I think.  Bowling coach had a word perhaps ? I always think the short ball best used to surprise them - especially when you can produce it at will , and at high pace.

Excellent first ten for England thumbsup

Archer also bowling noticeably quicker and more freely today I’d say too - you could tell he was struggling against the Aussies, not today. Should’ve had at least 1

Yes ...remarkable recovery in a few days ! Side strains don't usually go away that easily so it must have been pretty minor. The talk about him having another fitness test this morning sounds a bit like deceptive info...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm

Kohli looking set and starting to score. Just played a stupendous shot through the off-side.

Beware, England!

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:48 pm

Jaw breaker without that helmet.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 30 Jun 2019, 3:53 pm

India already 55 runs behind England (112/0) after 16 overs

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Post by robbo277 Sun 30 Jun 2019, 4:03 pm

Pal Joey wrote:India already 55 runs behind England (112/0) after 16 overs

The thing they'll be looking at is that England went from 150 in the 21st to 250 in the 40th. But if they're looking to catch-up 60 runs over those 20 overs, they'll need to go at 8s from there, which is quite a time to go at that rate, and leave the wickets to push in the last 10.

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Post by alfie Sun 30 Jun 2019, 4:03 pm

Advantage England at the moment. You'd think making up that sort of rate deficit ain't going to be easy.

But with Kohli at the crease , you just never know. They have a couple of players down the order who can really give it a whack in Pant and Pandya . The one thing England haven't done yet is take wickets.

Rashid might be interesting ...and here he is now...

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