ICC Cricket World Cup - Part 4

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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

alfie wrote:Good to see Morgan handling the short ball.  Has seen Behrend - orff...now taking to Lyon.

Keep the foot down lads I fancy an "early" night

Alfie I'm afraid this is the worst thing I have seen posted all World Cup.

I do my best

No name Bertie wrote:I don't think it is fair for the cup to be shared - it doesn't happen in other team sports.  So I am happy with the super over concept.

Yeah it would feel like both teams lost.

3 off 1...matching england

will archer mankand guptill next time though?

oops maybe Archer wasnt the smart pick oh well.

Neesham nails a ball in the slot. 7 from 4. Barring a wicket, this is surely the Kiwis' game.

Poor fielding . England are losing this

2 from 1. Can Archer nail the perfect yorker?

Oh jesus what a game

Yes, yes, yes! Surely the greatest ODI of all time?

No! But England win the World Cup! Exceptional fielding.

Cruel on New Zealand. What a game.

For me new zealand deserve it ...but for the sake of annoying KPF I'm glad England won on the stupid tie rules.

New Zealand cant chase ANY total

New Zealand got robbed. Simple as. We didn’t deserve that all at

Phew.

What a match. Too gobsmacked to post much after watching that.

KING JOF UNSETTLES THE TEAM

Sporting immortality for these lads as cricket comes home. Fate decreed England should win this trophy - they were outrageously lucky at the end of the conventional game. I genuinely think NZ deserved it on the basis of this performance, if not their previous endeavours in this comp.

I tell you what, though, England getting lucky at World Cups (of any sport) isn't something that happens often.

We chased. We did the harder part. Absolute Roy the Boy throwing and England, the best team, win the World Cup

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:We chased. We did the harder part. Absolute Roy the Boy throwing and England, the best team, win the World Cup

On the basis of the whole tournament, I agree, the best team won. On the basis of just today, I felt the Kiwis deserved it.

Duty281 wrote:Sporting immortality for these lads as cricket comes home. Fate decreed England should win this trophy - they were outrageously lucky at the end of the conventional game. I genuinely think NZ deserved it on the basis of this performance, if not their previous endeavours in this comp.

I tell you what, though, England getting lucky at World Cups (of any sport) isn't something that happens often.

Well India deserve it they were the most consistent team.

Sir Liam Dawson...hmmm

England win because they hit the most boundaries on the day...bizarre! They did have to contend with losing the toss in both of the knockout games, on balance.

Great composure from Jofra for the final three balls after being smacked for six.

Stokes was unfortunate to "lose" the T20 World Cup for England.  Then here he seemed to have won it for England in the OneDay World Cup - then he seemed to have lost it with the run out - then he seemed to have won it in the super-over - then lost it - then drew it - then won it with his contribution of boundaries.

1966...extra time. 2003...extra time. 2019...super over extra time!

Only country to win the football, cricket and rugby union World Cups. Marvellous.

Jeremy Coney is absolutely losing his nut over it bless. New Zealand only made the knock outs because of the rain rules, what goes around.

VTR wrote:Yes, yes, yes! Surely the greatest ODI of all time?

For drama, easily.

Yeah they were lucky today , to be fair. Except for losing the toss ...although Morgan might have bowled anyway.

But I guess over four years ...and even the 48 games here ...they've deserved it.

Still I really do feel the Kiwis' pain. They illuminated this World Cup and came so agonizingly close : would have been very worthy winners.

I guess I'm a bit torn between awe at such an amazing finish and regret England couldn't have won it clearly instead of this rather fortunate escape from apparent disaster.

Plus I'm a few whiskies down and due to go to work in bout three hours

Would have been odd if NZ had done it in the Super Over because they've only won one of their last five World Cup games (tied this one, winning the semi-final, and losing their last three group games).

I’m a good 7 pints and a few runs down and I really think we deserved it. Toss vs overthrows. They scraped qualifying, we beat the 3 semi-finalists and then held the super over even after having to bowl first.

There’s a fine hair between it today, but you’d have to be a nut to say England don’t deserve that this tournament. I feel for the Kiwis, the nicest people in the world, but it’s only jealousy that takes this from us.

The best performances were by us

MotM ?

Stokes ? Buttler ? Plunkett ? Very nearly de Grandhomme ! Or Neesham.

Ah ...give it to Dharmasena

I don't care how we won it. As said above we tend to have bog all luck in World Cups across all sports and so many painful defeats along the way, so many semi final and final defeats. This feels great

Also felt like now or never, our best ever team, at home, against opposition we should beat. New Zealand were superb on the day though and very unlucky really

Agree with all that Alfie.

England lucky today
Deserved the tournament on balance
Feel the kiwis pain

On that last one, the “6” off Stokes’ bat on the overthrows was a killer for them. Nothing wrong with it, it just happens, but about once in a thousand games and to happen at that time is rotten luck for them.

And still to tie the game, tie the super over and still lose is an awful result for them. A real kicker. It’ll be no consolation but I genuinely feel for him.

That said, I’m ecstatic we won. Ben Stokes doesn’t know when he’s beat, he just keeps going. To back up that innings, come out for the super over and then run every run that hard is a super human effort, although I’m surprised he didn’t come out and bowl the super over!

Jofra Archer from not in the World Cup squad to bowling a super over and defending 16 is a commendable effort as well.

We have been the best side over the last four years and we’ve been strong over this tournament. We rode our luck hard today, but as the old adage goes the harder you work the luckier you get. These guys have worked incredibly hard over four years, they back their skills and their abilities and they managed to perform under sensational pressure. See Roy and Buttler combining for that run out.

Incredible game. Needed some time to catch your breath after that. Congratulations to England. New Zealand can be very proud for the way played though, and they are absolutely unlucky not to have a share of the cup. For the first time ever, a team wins the world cup not by runs or wickets, but by boundary count! Though England deserve all the congratulations, New Zealand do not deserve to be runnerups here. The rule is stupid, whichever idiot designed it!

alfie wrote:MotM ?

Stokes ? Buttler ? Plunkett ?    Very nearly de Grandhomme ! Or Neesham.

Ah ...give it to Dharmasena

Like the Australia game, very difficult to pick a MOTM! Can understand why they gave it to Stokes.

VTR wrote:I don't care how we won it. As said above we tend to have bog all luck in World Cups across all sports and so many painful defeats along the way, so many semi final and final defeats. This feels great

Also felt like now or never, our best ever team, at home, against opposition we should beat. New Zealand were superb on the day though and very unlucky really

Agreed, nice to see an English team on the end of some good luck at crunch time.

I'm sure New Zealand will pay us back at the Rugby World Cup later this year!

So many knife edges which could have changed the game - Santner ducking the final ball, Boult standing on the rope, the Stokes ‘six’, two ice cold run outs from NZ in the final over... Incredible.

Stokes definitely man of the match for me, not particularly close. In a game that was tough for batsmen, he stood out.

Stokes is my man of the match, and the official one. So many good players who played good hands, but Stokes was the match winner today. After 2016 I’m glad it was him. He puts his hand up when things are difficult and today he dragged England over the line.

msp83 wrote:Incredible game. Needed some time to catch your breath after that. Congratulations to England. New Zealand can be very proud for the way played though, and they are absolutely unlucky not to have a share of the cup. For the first time ever, a team wins the world cup not by runs or wickets, but by boundary count! Though England deserve all the congratulations, New Zealand do not deserve to be runnerups here. The rule is stupid, whichever idiot designed it!

Is odd , indeed. But what else ? A "Super Ball" ? Or another super over ? Or whoever was higher placed after the group stages ?

Might wait a long time to see a repeat of that finish anyway...

There was only one man of the match, Benjamin Andrew Stokes. On that at least, I don't think there is any real debate. Was the most assured batsman of the entire game on a demanding track, not on a stupid flat road. Basically he did it for England. Should be a strong candidate for man of the tournament too. Batted well in all challenging situations thrown at him, and produced the runs on proper tracks each and every time.

robbo277 wrote:Stokes is my man of the match, and the official one. So many good players who played good hands, but Stokes was the match winner today. After 2016 I’m glad it was him. He puts his hand up when things are difficult and today he dragged England over the line.

Agreed. Won that by sheer force of will

robbo277 wrote:Stokes is my man of the match, and the official one. So many good players who played good hands, but Stokes was the match winner today. After 2016 I’m glad it was him. He puts his hand up when things are difficult and today he dragged England over the line.

Incredible temperament and character from him. Not just in this game, but others in the tournament. The ultimate redemption arc.

alfie wrote:

msp83 wrote:Incredible game. Needed some time to catch your breath after that. Congratulations to England. New Zealand can be very proud for the way played though, and they are absolutely unlucky not to have a share of the cup. For the first time ever, a team wins the world cup not by runs or wickets, but by boundary count! Though England deserve all the congratulations, New Zealand do not deserve to be runnerups here. The rule is stupid, whichever idiot designed it!

Is odd , indeed.  But what else ?  A "Super Ball" ?  Or another super over ? Or whoever was higher placed after the group stages ?

Might wait a long time to see a repeat of that finish anyway...

Share the damn thing!

Well Frak done england well Frak done

Stokes came in when England were in a desparate situation and the momentum was entirely with New Zealand. He forged partnerships to keep England in it - and then performed heroics in the final few overs. Then he played an important part again in the Super Over.

alfie wrote:

msp83 wrote:Incredible game. Needed some time to catch your breath after that. Congratulations to England. New Zealand can be very proud for the way played though, and they are absolutely unlucky not to have a share of the cup. For the first time ever, a team wins the world cup not by runs or wickets, but by boundary count! Though England deserve all the congratulations, New Zealand do not deserve to be runnerups here. The rule is stupid, whichever idiot designed it!

Is odd , indeed.  But what else ?  A "Super Ball" ?  Or another super over ? Or whoever was higher placed after the group stages ?

Might wait a long time to see a repeat of that finish anyway...

Well...there's a reserve day tomorrow...could have played the entire match from the start again!

No, no, no! No more cricket for the next decade please

Agreed VTR. Retire the World Cup. It’s peaked.

Ashes starts soon. Can Roy open red ball? Is Archer the third seamer or do we stick with Woakes? Maybe questions for tomorrow...

Warne also complaining about the boundary count back. It’s gutting but those are the rules. They knew going into the last over it was 15 to lose, 16 to win and they got 15. It’s harsh, sport is. Got a similar story regarding this and it sucks when it happens, but you accept it. Don’t let it detract from the game. Both teams gave their all. The NZ team weren’t complaining and good on them for doing so.

Williamson's interview actually made me feel really bad for beating them. The RU World Cup is the big one for them, so I don't mind if they win that, I also don't mind if we lose The Ashes. This is the one I've wanted to see England win more than anything

Liam Plunkett is drunk already

Stokes surely a shoo-in for the big award of the year now...BBC Sports Personality.

msp83 wrote:

alfie wrote:

msp83 wrote:Incredible game. Needed some time to catch your breath after that. Congratulations to England. New Zealand can be very proud for the way played though, and they are absolutely unlucky not to have a share of the cup. For the first time ever, a team wins the world cup not by runs or wickets, but by boundary count! Though England deserve all the congratulations, New Zealand do not deserve to be runnerups here. The rule is stupid, whichever idiot designed it!

Is odd , indeed.  But what else ?  A "Super Ball" ?  Or another super over ? Or whoever was higher placed after the group stages ?

Might wait a long time to see a repeat of that finish anyway...

Share the damn thing!

With Pakistan who only missed out on 4th because of the flawed NRR rules and quite possibly the way games were rained off?