England vs Ireland, one off Test - thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

First topic message reminder :

England have announced their squad for the one off test match against Ireland, it is as follows

Joe Root
James Anderson
Moeen Ali
Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Broad
Rory Burns
Sam Curran
Joe Denly
Lewis Gregory
Jack Leach
Jason Roy
Olly Stone
Chris Woakes

Lewis Gregory, Jason Roy & Olly Stone could make debuts.

James Anderson included & Jack Leach returns.

Buttler and Stokes are rested.

Wood & Archer not considered because of injury. Wood out for 4 to 6 weeks.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Good to see people have given him a chance...

Ah Nathaniel being a troll. He was quiet during the WC final....

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

Yep a classic openers dismissal - pitched on off, nibbled away and took the outside edge. Good bowling by Murtagh

[LondonTiger]

A decade ago we started first test at Lords against Australia with an opening partnership of 196 between Strauss and Cook, Trott replaced Bopara at 3 later in the series. Oh what we would give for that top 3 nowadays.

[compelling and rich]

Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

more worrying that he looked all at sea. lucky when he missed the straight one that it was just a no ball

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

Good to see people have given him a chance...

Ah Nathaniel being a troll. He was quiet during the WC final....

Olly stick to being a casual dear chap.

Roy plays on a flat dead pitch at the Oval yet doesn’t average 40 in red ball cricket.

As for the WC final, Henry showed how clueless Roy was.

Now pipe down

[Gooseberry]

How did your mates Smith and Warner get on Nathaniel?

[LondonTiger]

Adair getting a little movement both ways in the air.

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

How did your mates Smith and Warner get on Nathaniel?

Nice try Hammersmith, keep changing your username because you’ve got no mates

[alfie]

Ah well ignoring Nathaniel's typically OTT dismissive sledge it seems most viewers not over impressed by Roy's fist Test innings...

On too late to see it myself ; but from the text commentary I gather he was lucky to survive twice and still fell for single figures . To a good ball , I understand. But hardly the start he'd have dreamed of.

Ill be honest : I was never in favour of the Roy as Test opener plan. I don't think his technique is up to it. However his form in the WC and obvious mental strength and confidence , coupled with the dearth of alternatives , had convinced me it was (is) worth giving him a try. The final against NZ in which he was all at sea against Boult and Henry showed what a risky proposition he will be ...and I think today underlined it.
What England are hoping , I presume , is that on a couple of occasions in the Ashes series he's going to manage to survive the first few overs and then rattle the opposing bowlers with a rapid 70 or so. With the bonus that his aggressive approach may soften up the attack much as Trescothick did in his prime. And that this will be worth a few early exits.
Probably shows the low expectations of top three candidates (now ticked again as Denly falls for a frisky twenty ... Stone dead lbw !)

Jury will stay out a while yet : but the Aussies will fancy having Root at the crease inside ten on this showing...

[LondonTiger]

Oh FFS

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Now this is English cricket

[LondonTiger]

Now this is English cricket

 Indeed.

[alfie]

Burns gone now...

Don't think this will need four days leave alone five.

One thing for sure : this will be England's lowest Test score against Ireland whatever they get

Also their highest.

[compelling and rich]

might aswell get used to this root. top 3 nothing again. our 4,5,6 better have a good summer

[Duty281]

Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

[LondonTiger]

Bairstow being told he cannot stand as far out of his crease as he wants to.

[KP_fan]

36-3....Ohh boy
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

Ashes tests might be shorter than the India vs NZ world cup semi final!

[compelling and rich]

Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

I had day 3 for old Trafford, managed to swap them for day 1. that's how confident I am

just the Manchester weather I need to contend with now

[Duty281]

36-3....Ohh boy
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here

England will still win because Ireland are even worse.

[alfie]

Is anyone really surprised ? We know the top three are dodgy to say the least. And credit to Ireland they've bowled well.

Very well ! Now they've got Root !

[LondonTiger]

F*** me backwards this is bad.

[Duty281]

Oh for goodness sake, that is the worst decision I've seen in my life.

Absolute amateur hour out there. Can test cricket survive when modern batsmen have no clue on the concept of building an innings?

[alfie]

Hope Sam Curran is ready to save the ship again

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Well, Mo does need some time in the middle...

[Duty281]

7/4 still available on Australia winning the upcoming series. But they might be even worse than this England side.

[compelling and rich]

ali to be caught out on the boundary now

not exactly the man to dig in for England

[alfie]

I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat. But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I like the tactic of letting Sir Chris do all the runs and wickets at Lords again.

[alfie]

...or before lunch , even...Bairstow gone for nothing.!

Will England make 100 ?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

This is madness

[compelling and rich]

[Duty281]

I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat.  But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate

England are awful, too!

Bairstow's just played the type of shot that should see him hit with a lifetime ban from first-class cricket.

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

IIRC back in 2016 when Bairstow scored the majority of his Test runs, he proclaimed he didn’t receive enough adulation. After playing a pathetic shot like that he should be punted in the groin.

[alfie]

Woakes gone first ball...

Will they make fifty ?!

[Duty281]

This is the most embarrassing collapse in recent memory, exceeding even the 58 mustered against New Zealand and the 77 against the Windies.

[eirebilly]

Jaysus…

As much as I am an England fan, I am first and foremost Irish.

What a start for Ireland

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I like the tactic of letting Sir Chris do all the runs and wickets at Lords again.

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

If Stirling can slog a few Ireland could have a chance of a monumental upset.

[KP_fan]

36-3....Ohh boy
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here

England will still win because Ireland are even worse.

I want to believe you , but it's looking harder.

[Duty281]

Five wickets in 20 balls? Bunch of sloggers who don't know how to bat.

[alfie]

I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat.  But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate

England are awful, too!

Bairstow's just played the type of shot that should see him hit with a lifetime ban from first-class cricket.

Well it really should stop the nonsense idea frequently put up - even on here - that he ought to be pushed up the order. He's a good six/seven : No way is he a top order bat.

Unfortunately there don't seem to be any top order bats around today...

WC hangover ?

[eirebilly]

The track looks pretty decent for batting as well which is an even bigger shock...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

England getting the major collapse out of the way before the Ashes, fantastic tactics from Trevor Bayliss and co...

[KP_fan]

Eng are still in a world-cup hangover

[eirebilly]

England getting the major collapse out of the way before the Ashes, fantastic tactics from Trevor Bayliss and co...

All jokes aside, it very well probably is. Too much white ball cricket for England must have affected them.

Not complaining mind

[eirebilly]

Well Murtagh gets on the honours list at Lords. History in the making for Ireland's test team

[Dolphin Ziggler]

This is sensational

[alfie]

The track looks pretty decent for batting as well which is an even bigger shock...

Think it's quite decent conditions for bowling so far ... Doing a bit...but Ireland have surpassed any expectations

Seven down ! Murtagh on the honor board inside seventy five minutes

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