Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[beninho]

First topic message reminder :

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"It is not mandatory for the team receiving the challenge to face it."

How many effing times. If they don't face it up silently and respectfully they get massive media criticism.

No they don't!

This is getting crazy!

[pedro]

Pellegrini got Hammered. Not surprising. Who’s next for WHU?
What does super say? Are they just a selling club - despite their big signings and 60,000 at every home game - or should/could they aim for something fancier than Big Sam or Moyes?

[beninho]

West Ham aren't even a selling club, who did they last sell for a decent profit? They are spending 40/50m on players. The squad they have shouldn't be bottom3. They should look at Hughton, has generally done a good job most places. Guess they will go for Rafa, they were close to getting him years back,then he went to Madrid. I doubt he'd leave the chinese megabucks though. But, as wilder is showing, its not all about the big names.

[Be_the_ball]

If Ancelotti can go to Everton, then anything's possible! Has Poch been snapped up yet?!?

[McLaren]

Big Sam?

[Be_the_ball]

B_t_b,
It's been a long time now but grievances about adequate proportional representation in Westminster, for all persuasions, was at least part of the reason for problems.
The father of my girlfriend at the start of the Troubles was CMO of Northern Ireland, had to deal with the use of CS gas as well as bullets.
Big house on the Newtonards Road, big waterfront getaway outside Greencastle (lovely golf course there as I understand it) in Donegal where he paid his taxes.
Typical Protestant?
Dunno, but you got the feeling that something wasn't quite right/equitable.
Plenty of grievances to go around and, as has been said, not all about religion (or even the excuse of religion).

True Kwini, and the past 20 years of peace up there while NI has still been part of the UK would suggest that it wasn't about that at all. But equality and an opportunity to participate in society.

It seems like Westminster is making the same mistakes with Scotland now.

[kwinigolfer]

Sounds like Moyes to West Ham?
In which case, I imagine he'll have a different contract configuration than last time.

I like Moyes but wonder if turning round this group of overpaid under-performers is quite his forte?

[westisbest]

Hopefully we will get Poch, if when Smith gets sacked.

[kwinigolfer]

Moyes it is.

[super_realist]

Stabbzy actively encouraged people to vote a certain way, that's more than just expressing an opinion.

You are always asking for examples of racist comments you have made. Here is a very blatant one.

How is it racist Mac? He stands for a culture which has a habit of stabbing people. Why isn't it happening in the black communities in other cities? If it was a race issue, then why are white people also being stabbed in London and why aren't the black community also doing it in other communities? It's not a black issue, it's a community issue.

Stormzy is probably the worst "anarchist" I think I've ever seen. A man who appears to be so thick that he can't even make a decent political point, a case in point just shouting "What about Gwenfehhhhhh Theresa" or "F**k the Government" An idiot of a man, and then blaming the government with his union jack stab proof vest for the stabbings in London instead of the communities, gangs, music and individuals themselves. The guy is a moron from a community of morons.

[super_realist]

Dyna, you asked a little while ago about Northern Ireland and what it was all about and Super replied religion. It was not about religion, at it's very core it was about fear. Implying that there was some theological arguement between the main protagonists is farcical. You have to understand Dyna, that unlike England, Scotland is a deeply sectarian society. The Scottish govt however to its credit is trying to combat it https://www.gov.scot/news/confronting-sectarianism/

Scotland is not deeply sectarian at all. A small part of it, namely the Buckfast belt/Glasgow/Untermensch area might be which includes absolute armpits like Larkhall, but the rest of it is not at all. Scotland is the least religious region of a very  unreligious UK, it really only is an issue in the Glasgow area where religion or sectarianism is an issue, and only then it relates to  2 pathetic, small and insignificant football teams rather than religious institutions themselves, it has no bearing in Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Perth, Highlands, Islands, Borders, Inverness, Dundee etc whatsoever. I would be pretty confident that even in the cults of Rangers and Celtic fans are mostly atheist,  they simply are sectarian bigots as a way of chastising each other, although there is the idiots in the lodges too, but it's not true to say that Scotland is "deeply sectarian" because in the vast majority religion is simply never brought up, it's less relevant than what your favourite sandwich filling is..

[Be_the_ball]

Dyna, you asked a little while ago about Northern Ireland and what it was all about and Super replied religion. It was not about religion, at it's very core it was about fear. Implying that there was some theological arguement between the main protagonists is farcical. You have to understand Dyna, that unlike England, Scotland is a deeply sectarian society. The Scottish govt however to its credit is trying to combat it https://www.gov.scot/news/confronting-sectarianism/

Scotland is not deeply sectarian at all. A small part of it, namely the Buckfast belt/Glasgow/Untermensch area might be which includes absolute armpits like Larkhall, but the rest of it is not at all. Scotland is the least religious region of a very  unreligious UK, it really only is an issue in the Glasgow area where religion or sectarianism is an issue, and only then it relates to  2 pathetic, small and insignificant football teams rather than religious institutions themselves, it has no bearing in Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Perth, Highlands, Islands, Borders, Inverness, Dundee etc whatsoever. I would be pretty confident that even in the cults of Rangers and Celtic fans are mostly atheist,  they simply are sectarian bigots as a way of chastising each other, although there is the idiots in the lodges too, but it's not true to say that Scotland is "deeply sectarian" because in the vast majority religion is simply never brought up, it's less relevant than what your favourite sandwich filling is..

Really? You say it's not sectarian then go on the explain where it is. I would have thought if a Govt is spending tax payers money funding an initiative then it has been identified and warranted? But maybe it's all just a coincidence as you keep telling Ben.

[Be_the_ball]

What's frustrating about you Super is you are smart enough to know better. So at times I genuinely don't know if you just throw the odd grenade into the forum to illicit a reaction out of boredom or to play up to this internet persona you have created. But then you do sometimes come across with a lot of irrational hate and anger, and I don't think that's healthy, for you. I know you are smart enough to know better.

[beninho]

3 defeats in a row for the chairboys. Bit of a wobble or freefall is to be seen. I'd have taken 4 points clear at new years, but starting to worry now. Anyway, only 7 points from being safe!

[super_realist]

Dyna, you asked a little while ago about Northern Ireland and what it was all about and Super replied religion. It was not about religion, at it's very core it was about fear. Implying that there was some theological arguement between the main protagonists is farcical. You have to understand Dyna, that unlike England, Scotland is a deeply sectarian society. The Scottish govt however to its credit is trying to combat it https://www.gov.scot/news/confronting-sectarianism/

Scotland is not deeply sectarian at all. A small part of it, namely the Buckfast belt/Glasgow/Untermensch area might be which includes absolute armpits like Larkhall, but the rest of it is not at all. Scotland is the least religious region of a very  unreligious UK, it really only is an issue in the Glasgow area where religion or sectarianism is an issue, and only then it relates to  2 pathetic, small and insignificant football teams rather than religious institutions themselves, it has no bearing in Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Perth, Highlands, Islands, Borders, Inverness, Dundee etc whatsoever. I would be pretty confident that even in the cults of Rangers and Celtic fans are mostly atheist,  they simply are sectarian bigots as a way of chastising each other, although there is the idiots in the lodges too, but it's not true to say that Scotland is "deeply sectarian" because in the vast majority religion is simply never brought up, it's less relevant than what your favourite sandwich filling is..

Really? You say it's not sectarian then go on the explain where it is. I would have thought if a Govt is spending tax payers money funding an initiative then it has been identified and warranted? But maybe it's all just a coincidence as you keep telling Ben.

I said it wasn't "deeply sectarian" which would infer that it was endemic in all of Scotland which of course it isn't.
Sectarianism is only an issue the the Glasgow area where there are links with Northern Ireland. Anyone who knows anything about Scotland knows this. Sectarianism isn't a Scottish issue, it's an issue local to Glasgow. I hope you can see the difference. It would be like saying that stabbing is an England issue, when it's largely confined to a small area of London.  Got it? If you can accuse me of anything, it's being a pedant, but Scotland at large does not have a sectarian problem because most people don't give a toss about religion or the two bigoted football clubs involved.
There might be a tax funded initiative, but it's got nothing to do with Scotland in general and is focused in a small deprived area of Western Scotland. It's a regional problem, not a national one, and certainly not something Scotland in general has a problem with.

[Be_the_ball]

Are you from Glasgow?

[George1507]

The fans of the Old Firm seem to don sectarianism like a scarf when they head off to matches.

I don't think it's very evident in life away from football though. I was born and lived in Glasgow and don't recall much sectarianism then, and see it even less now.

It's not sectarianism, but the Highlands and Islands are still pretty religious. Lord's Day Observance, sunday closing and temperance are all still part of the tapestry especially in the northwest. There are no friendlier people on earth though.

[beninho]

Could Australia be the first country to have large parts made uninhabitable due to climate change. Hotter, drier conditions increasing the risk and intensity of the bushfires.

Some of the images are shocking.

[super_realist]

Are you from Glasgow?

No, but I have lived there.

[super_realist]

Could Australia be the first country to have large parts made uninhabitable due to climate change. Hotter, drier conditions increasing the risk and intensity of the bushfires.

Some of the images are shocking.

Australian summer is hot shocker.

[beninho]

And its getting hotter and drier. And the bushfires are getting worse due to the conditions.

Some areas will be uninhabitable.

[super_realist]

And its getting hotter and drier. And the bushfires are getting worse due to the conditions.

Some areas will be uninhabitable.

Is it? Or is it just a hot year? Australia has an average of 56,000 bush fires per year.
Australia has always been a difficult place to live in in certain areas. This year might be difficult, but it was also 50c in 1930 and it was difficult then too.
The trouble these days is that even the slightest deviation from the norm is immediately attributed to the "climate crisis" even when it might very well not be. The doomsday cults and cultists have a field day. You only need to look at the Amazon fires to see how they got their information badly wrong.
This might be a climate change issue, but one should exercise degree of a bit of restraint before jumping to conclusions.

[beninho]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005, temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

[super_realist]

I absolutely do accept climate change. I simply disagree that every weather event now is immediately attributed to the "climate emergency"

By the way, 16c in the Scottish Highlands wasn't a climate change issue. It was due to the Foehn effect which is not climate change related. Its related to topography which you might have known if you had exercised sufficient scepticism instead of listening to the hysterical Greta planks.

[beninho]

I think the aussies probably accept they have a climate emergency. Especially the ones who have lost everything.

[super_realist]

I think the aussies probably accept they have a climate emergency. Especially the ones who have lost everything.

Jesus Beninho, I'm sure they do, but it doesn't mean that every single weather event we now have is down to climate change.

Interesting that you ignored that your claim of 16c in Scotland was climate related when it wasn't. That's why I question everything and you don't. You just jumped to the conclusion it was climate  change because its a temperature you deem unusual, but it simply displays your ignorance.

Living in Australian areas subject to high temperatures and bushfires is always a risk.
This might be the worst in years, I'm simply saying that getting hysterical about it doesn't help.

[beninho]

I just said that the highlands had extreme weather conditions, which it did, whatever it was down to.

To me, its pretty clear that climate change over the years has led to the current extreme conditions in Australia. With bushfires, being noted as the worst on record, and a country getting hotter and drier.

Now, you don't think that is the case. Ok. Each to their own.

[beninho]

I'm not saying every event is due to it, but the warning were for more extreme conditions, you can hardly deny whats happening in Australia is not extreme.

[super_realist]

I'm not saying every event is due to it, but the warning were for more extreme conditions, you can hardly deny whats happening in Australia is not extreme.

But you did say that something was part of the climate emergency when it wasn't.
Listen, I'm fine that we are facing some challenges, what I'm not OK with is everyone attributing every single weather anomoly with climate change.
Yes, it's harsh in Australia, and it might well be as a result of human influenced climate change, but let's not ignore that these parts of Australia are also very tough places to live in anyway, and it doesn't take much to tip the balance.

[super_realist]

I just said that the highlands had extreme weather conditions, which it did, whatever it was down to.

To me, its pretty clear that climate change over the years has led to the current extreme conditions in Australia. With bushfires, being noted as the worst on record, and a country getting hotter and drier.

Now, you don't think that is the case. Ok. Each to their own.

16 degree is not an extreme event, it's a perfectly natural temperature to have in mountainous regions due to a specific topographic effect. That's the problem I'm talking about. It's neither extreme nor is it that unusual. I've been in the mountains when it's happened.
Don't you see what I'm saying that people are taking such events and attributing it to climate change when it isn't?

[beninho]

The highest recorded Temperature since 1948 for a December, and the highest recorded Temperature that late into the year.

But its not extreme. Whatever caused it, it is still extreme compared to the norm and pretty exceptional according to the met office, but what woukd they know.

[super_realist]

The highest recorded Temperature since 1948 for a December, and the highest recorded Temperature that late into the year.

But its not extreme. Whatever caused it, it is still extreme compared to the norm and pretty exceptional according to the met office, but what woukd they know.

It's not extreme. Extreme implies some sort of harm or damage. It's a topographic phenomenon. Get over it. It's nothing to worry about.
It is incredibly short lived and incredibly local to a small area. It's not a big deal at all.
The point is you conflated it with climate change wheb it was wrong to do so.

[Tattie Scones RRN]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

[super_realist]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

Exactly, the highest temp in recorded times. Also worth noting that temperature recording has not been consistent over time. Locations, methods and number of recordings has varied vastly over time.
For example for decades African temperature was recorded on fewer than ten stations.

[beninho]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-50817963

Well according to the bureau of meteorology. They seem a decent barometer to use.

[super_realist]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-australia-50817963

Well according to the bureau of meteorology. They seem a decent barometer to use.

I think the previous poster was referring to the fact that it is only the hottest day in recorded history, not "ever" I. E in the last 4.5bn years.

Listen, I'm fine with it being a change in climatic conditions. The problem I have with the entire climate movement is the inability to know the difference between greenhouse effect, climate change, human climate change and unsubstantiated hysterical claims of doomsday cults.

[Tattie Scones RRN]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

Exactly, the highest temp in recorded times. Also worth noting that temperature recording has not been consistent over time. Locations, methods and number of recordings has varied vastly over time.
For example for decades African temperature was recorded on fewer than ten stations.

Not to mention hundreds of weather stations being closed on northern Russia (very cold place), monitoring equipment being installed in towns next to concrete (stores heat in day then releases at night).

If people actually looked into this, they'd soon start realising that there are a few people getting obscenely rich from so-called global warming and that 95% of claims are absolute horse sh!t.

You just need to look at the credentials and quaifications of the 'scientists' on the IPCC.

People go on about Blair and war crimes. Al Gore should face life for fraud.

[beninho]

Generally, and I think the vast majority of countries have accepted there is a climate emergency. Im sure a number of things are part of the overall problem. We have seen extreme weather conditions, and are seeing tjis in Australia. I have a friend in Sydney, who has fires just 15k from his house. Has had drought conditions and is getting pretty worried. This is sydney, not some small town in the bush. There's even worries about tge test at the scg.

Will it cause the end of the world, I don't know. But its clearly not good for some people.

[super_realist]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

Exactly, the highest temp in recorded times. Also worth noting that temperature recording has not been consistent over time. Locations, methods and number of recordings has varied vastly over time.
For example for decades African temperature was recorded on fewer than ten stations.

Not to mention hundreds of weather stations being closed on northern Russia (very cold place), monitoring equipment being installed in towns next to concrete (stores heat in day then releases at night).

If people actually looked into this, they'd soon start realising that there are a few people getting obscenely rich from so-called global warming and that 95% of claims are absolute horse sh!t.

You just need to look at the credentials and quaifications of the 'scientists' on the IPCC.

People go on about Blair and war crimes. Al Gore should face life for fraud.

I'm generally fine with accepting that climate change is occurring and that there is an element to it which is exacerbated by human activity.
What I am not OK with is the aims of hysterical indoctrinated doomsday cults like Extinction Rebellion making unsubstantiated and unscientific claims that we are facing mass extinction, that we will be eating our pets that sea level is going to rise massively, that London will be underwater in 10 years, that we as humans are going to go extinct, that all climate change is catastrophic etc etc. It's mass indoctrination and similar to religious nuttery.

By the way, it has been admitted that the term "climate change" was changed to "climate emergency" because it sounded more urgent.

[beninho]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

Exactly, the highest temp in recorded times. Also worth noting that temperature recording has not been consistent over time. Locations, methods and number of recordings has varied vastly over time.
For example for decades African temperature was recorded on fewer than ten stations.

Not to mention hundreds of weather stations being closed on northern Russia (very cold place), monitoring equipment being installed in towns next to concrete (stores heat in day then releases at night).

If people actually looked into this, they'd soon start realising that there are a few people getting obscenely rich from so-called global warming and that 95% of claims are absolute horse sh!t.

You just need to look at the credentials and quaifications of the 'scientists' on the IPCC.

People go on about Blair and war crimes. Al Gore should face life for fraud.

Tim hats on, we have a live one here. You are full on denier of climate change?

[Tattie Scones RRN]

Realist, I get it, you dont accept climate change can impact the earth. So you ignore whats in front of your eyes, such as fire tornados killing people,  the Australian bush fires, heck, even the Scottish highlands had a temperature at 16d at the end of december. Plenty of other extreme weather conditions throughout the world.


But 1930, he says like a robot, ignoring that this year you had the highest average temp ever, 9 out of 10 hottest years have occurred since 2005,  temps have increased over 1c since 1950. Places are into the third year of a drought. But nothing to see as a climate emergency in Australia.
People have warned of extreme conditions,we know have some.

But, just think of an argument why its all just normal, then look at the pictures.

Ever?

You might want to check that.

Exactly, the highest temp in recorded times. Also worth noting that temperature recording has not been consistent over time. Locations, methods and number of recordings has varied vastly over time.
For example for decades African temperature was recorded on fewer than ten stations.

Not to mention hundreds of weather stations being closed on northern Russia (very cold place), monitoring equipment being installed in towns next to concrete (stores heat in day then releases at night).

If people actually looked into this, they'd soon start realising that there are a few people getting obscenely rich from so-called global warming and that 95% of claims are absolute horse sh!t.

You just need to look at the credentials and quaifications of the 'scientists' on the IPCC.

People go on about Blair and war crimes. Al Gore should face life for fraud.

Tim hats on, we have a live one here. You are full on denier of climate change?

Show me exactly where I said I deny climate change. And refrain from writing tin (I assume that's what you meant) hat. Something that people say when they can't provide any rational evidence to support their belief when it's challenged. It shows a lack of intelligence.

Anyway....please tell me where I said I deny climate change. I'll wait.

[beninho]

Well it was a question,as you seemed pretty adamant about some tjings, you even said so called global warming,like its not a thing. You also put scientists in brackets. You clearly have some,concerns about it.

Now, I could be completely wrong and misunderstood your post. You may well accept that climate change is a problem.

Or you may not.

[pedro]

Discussing climate with ben is like discussing religion with the 1st century Sanhedrin.

[beninho]

The thing is, when all said and done, I dont think im a million miles off what super says. There is an acceptance that something is causing climate change. He doesn't like the over the top nature, and in fairness I can accept that, because, its all just guess work. We don't know either way.

While, I do think the issues in Australia are an issue, caused by climate change overall, I also accept not everything else is,or we don't know if it is or isn't in some cases.

I do like an argument though, it gets me through looking after the kids, and keeps my mind off other issues.

Love to all,

[super_realist]

The thing is, when all said and done, I dont think im a million miles off what super says. There is an acceptance that something is causing climate change. He doesn't like the over the top nature, and in fairness I can accept that, because, its all just guess work. We don't know either way.

While, I do think the issues in Australia are an issue, caused by climate change overall, I also accept not everything else is,or we don't know if it is or isn't in some cases.

I do like an argument though, it gets me through looking after the kids, and keeps my mind off other issues.

Love to all,

I think that's the issue Beninho, people cannot separate climate change from human climate change. The two are not the same and its important to distinguish between them. Unfortunately the media and environmental groups seem incapable of doing so.
There is also the insinuation that everyone in the world will be affected in a catastrophic and negative way, when that isn't true
Doubtless it will affect many people, but the vast majority of people especially in developed western nations won't be affected in a massively damaging way. That's not to say we shouldn't try to mitigate global effects, but I do think that the hysteria which surrounds all aspects of climate change actually damages the issue because when taken to extremes, its effectively a conspiracy theory (I don't mean climate change, but rather the overpaying and exaggeration of the potential effects.).

[Be_the_ball]

It is pretty horrible looking at some of those pics from Oz. Absolute devastation, people taking cover in lakes and the sea while the sky is burning red. Awful.

[McLaren]

What Super always fails to mention is that the IPCC report along with mainstream scientific papers have models that predict exactly what is happening based on the measured global average temperature increases we have seen. To base your views on climate science on a few nutters from a protest group might be the worst implementation of skepticism ever.

It isn't difficult, Google ipcc report and then go on Google scholar.

[super_realist]

What Super always fails to mention is that the IPCC report along with mainstream scientific papers have models that predict exactly what is happening based on the measured global average temperature increases we have seen. To base your views on climate science on a few nutters from a protest group might be the worst implementation of skepticism ever.

It isn't difficult, Google ipcc report and then go on Google scholar.

As normal Mac you completely fail to grasp the point. Nothing of which the likes of Extinction Rebellion are claiming is supported by the IPCC.

I am saying that I accept that there is a human influence on climate change, I do not accept the hysterical, unjustified claims spouted by moron's like ER, Leonardo Di Caprio, Greta the Hypocrite, Lewis Hamilton, Emma Thompson etc. Why do you?

Hopefully 2020 will grant  you the ability to read better and make more sense because at the moment all you demonstrate is that you cannot follow a simple paragraph or two.
I made it very clear I accept the human element of climate change and that it is the absurdly stupid and baseless claims of doomsday cults which are a massive part of the problem.
If you can't see that's where my frustration is with the whole movement then you are even thicker than I thought.

Also, it's hardly a "few nutters" is it? The whole climate alarmist mob numbers in the millions which is where the problem lies. A whole generation is being indoctrinated by groups whose claims aren't supported by science. You've got children terrified that they're going to die because of climate change. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

[Tattie Scones RRN]

What Super always fails to mention is that the IPCC report along with mainstream scientific papers have models that predict exactly what is happening based on the measured global average temperature increases we have seen. To base your views on climate science on a few nutters from a protest group might be the worst implementation of skepticism ever.

It isn't difficult, Google ipcc report and then go on Google scholar.

It's already been proven that data in the IPCC reports has been doctored. Hence why quite a few legitimate scientists on the panel have quit over the last few years.

[beninho]

I know in today's day and age it's all about having extreme views, and never budging. See both sides of the brexit argument, who got worse over time, and politicians in general, who refuse to even work together.

But can't we all agree, that we have no bloody idea whats going to happen to the planet over the coming years, decades centuries. One side will have the worse case sitiuatiom, the other side will argue that down when in reality, no idea. We have nothing to base anything on, what will be will be.

Not saying, people shouldn't try and mitigate any potential problems.

[McLaren]

Tattie

Are you talking about East anglia uni's climategate emails?

If so you might want to look into that a bit more.

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