Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[super_realist]

First topic message reminder :

I'm fine with immigration of people who bring value to the country in one way or another, who wouldn't be? What I'm not in favour of is people who bring nothing to the country in terms of skills, education, money etc. I wouldn't expect the many millions of useless Britons to be able to go the other way either just for balance.

What policy is has actively being engaged to stop people of a particular race unable to enter the country anyway? I've not seen any.

[Soul Requiem]

I played a lot at school too and for my local club briefly then tried playing at university but found the step up in physicality a bit too much (was a full back) without committing to training more which I couldn't, just from playing at that level the aches and pains were insane. I tend to feel pride watching the Rugby guys and they carry themselves with grace most of the time compared to the footballers who feel entitled to a higher status based on kicking a football around.

[beninho]

Would a lot of football fans, who sit on the couch to watch their team or go to games, not play football on the weekends. Saturday and Sunday league. A hell of a lot do.

Even the ‘fat’ ones to use your word.
They are watching something they love, and playing it to.

If they are not playing in leagues, I’m sure they are just having a kick around in the park.

I used to play Sunday league football, (How I got my damn knee injury). There were some very good players. On our team or other teams. So are they not bettering their game by playing every week.

Same as you going out and playing/bettering your golf game.

Fine if that's the case, I don't think it always is, my point was about fat layabouts who have football (or any other sport) as the only thing that matters to them and is accompanied by football obsession like tattoos, private number plates, won't have a car the colour of their rivals, paint the house the colour of their club etc is pretty sad. Taking part in a sport is always better than watching it.

Niche.

[McLaren]

Super

As my rational Internet atheist buddy are you really going to hold your tongue on this martial arts chat?

Whats wring with martial arts Mac?
Takes discipline, respect and hard work.

Also a great form of fitness. And great way of protecting yourself and others.

Takes discipline, respect, hard work and a mega dose of magical thinking,

[super_realist]

Super

As my rational Internet atheist buddy are you really going to hold your tongue on this martial arts chat?

Whats wring with martial arts Mac?
Takes discipline, respect and hard work.

Also a great form of fitness. And great way of protecting yourself and others.

Takes discipline, respect, hard work and a mega dose of magical thinking,

Are we missing something Mac? I don't think anyone has claimed there is anything mystical about martial arts.

[McLaren]

Super

And I thought you were a skeptic.

[super_realist]

Super

And I thought you were a skeptic.

Mac, you can do martial arts without evoking any woo nonsense.

[Soul Requiem]

Super

And I thought you were a skeptic.

Are you American?

[McLaren]

Wow, another SR hive mind moment. They are both triggered by American spellings.

[dynamark]

Public service announcement - TV viewing tonight 7pm channel 24 a documentary on Seve from 1980s
Should be worth a watch
Until very recently Rutland did not have a McD but council gave permission for one in Oakham.It is on outside of town on a garage/retail park though not on the historic high street

[westisbest]

Yes dynamark. Not due till Christmas I think. Not to far from the Aldi I think.

The wife’s from Oakham. Nice little spot.

[dynamark]

Westi if you see me in Aldi or Lidl you can shoot me! and Primark !
Nice area still very unspoilt .I did some work on the Empingham reservoir in my very early days and loved going out there

[McLaren]

Aldi is ok, I like browsing the random stuff on offer.

[JAS]

Super

As my rational Internet atheist buddy are you really going to hold your tongue on this martial arts chat?

Whats wring with martial arts Mac?
Takes discipline, respect and hard work.

Also a great form of fitness. And great way of protecting yourself and others.

Takes discipline, respect, hard work and a mega dose of magical thinking,

I must have missed that bit...but feel free to enlighten me....In a scientific and evidence based way ..obviously!!!

[dynamark]

The seve docu is brilliant European Open Pete coleman on the bag i don't think it was wentworth maybe sunningdale.Seve had a very fluid swing on the follow thru and quite a jab at his putt with a brass L blade putter. Very interesting sponsor was Slazenger and I still have a set of those clubs

[westisbest]

Westi if you see me in Aldi or Lidl you can shoot me! and Primark !
Nice area still very unspoilt .I did some work on the Empingham reservoir in my very early days and loved going out there

You would see me in all three of those dynamark

[I'm never wrong]

Cummings seems to have been a naughty boy. BBC News - Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

[super_realist]

Cummings seems to have been a naughty  boy. BBC News - Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

Johnson would be doing himself a massive favour in terms of his popularity if he was to get rid of him, but of course he won't.
The Tory Alistair Campbell.

[beninho]

The Cummings thing is indefensible. Especially after the governments reaction to Ferguson. If they say this is fine, basically everyone has done what they've been doing for no reason. If you could just drive off with your kids to family members all along.

[super_realist]

The Cummings thing is indefensible. Especially after the governments reaction to Ferguson. If they say this is fine, basically everyone has done what they've been doing for no reason. If you could just drive off with your kids to family members all along.

True, Man City took no action on the absurdly thick Kyle Walker either.
You should be taking action on these idiots, otherwise it sets a bad example. In my old company someone got sacked for going into the office. Quite right.

[George1507]

Wendy's is repulsive, a group of us went to one in California last year and we were all laughing at how bad it was

Edit. Actually I'm thinking of Denny's. Revolting

Denny's? Revolting? Nah. It's fried food, so you shouldn't be going there all the time, but for occasional breakfasts or lunch, it's good and great value.

There are still some independent diners left. Generally they serve a good standard of food, but once again the caveat is not to eat fried food too often.

Edie's in Marina del Rey was a great place to hang out - kind of like Arnold's in Happy Days. Sadly it's gone now. Good food, good atmosphere and backchat from the waitress. Great times.

[beninho]

Gove has confirmed caring for your child is not a crime. So basically we all over did this lockdown nonsense. Could have seen your family whenever you wanted. Kyle Walker seeing his family, not a problem.

Its just been a big game.

[kwinigolfer]

Gove has confirmed caring for your child is not a crime. So basically we all over did this lockdown nonsense. Could have seen your family whenever you wanted. Kyle Walker seeing his family, not a problem.

Its just been a big game.

There and here ben,
At least in some parts of the US (VT for example) the lockdown has been working, but in others no-one gives a toss. And Florida and Georgia have been manipulating the COVID "positives" & deaths to suit their political/Drumpfian agenda.

[super_realist]

Gove has confirmed caring for your child is not a crime. So basically we all over did this lockdown nonsense. Could have seen your family whenever you wanted. Kyle Walker seeing his family, not a problem.

Its just been a big game.

Kyle Walker hired two prostitutes Beninho.

[beninho]

Doesn't really matter though does it know. None of it does. If the givt have no issues, apart from covering it up, that someone drove while symptomatic over 250miles, to go to his family home. Then why does it natter that walker banged a couple of brasses.

Do want you want guys. Its concerning if the people care more then the government.

[beninho]

Rishi is now talking about justifiable and reasonable. So, that means I could have seen my dad at almost any time, who has been on his own, and my mum died in December. Why weren't we told that justifiable and reasonable was what we could consider.

[Soul Requiem]

Do grow up.

[beninho]

Do grow up.

Nope.

[beninho]

Defending this makes the mps look worse then if they took it on the chin.

But people have died, and family members not attended funerals. People been stuck alone, suffering in silence away from support and loved ones.

When, really, that shouldn't have been the case, because the rules don't matter. Sh%g in your home though, hancock wants the police involved.

[kwinigolfer]

Cummings' uncle died of COVID; it would be poetic justice (seeing as he was a judge) if he was infected by his loathsome nephew.

[navyblueshorts]

Do stop frothing, Ben. Why don't you wait a few days and see what happens? Scottish CMO didn't quit immediately either.

To be clear, agree it appears untenable though.

[super_realist]

Even if Boris doesn't think he's done wrong, there's clearly a precedent for sacking morons who do this. Boris would gain considerable support were he to sack Cummings over this. Seems like a no brainer to me.

[Soul Requiem]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

[beninho]

Do stop frothing, Ben. Why don't you wait a few days and see what happens? Scottish CMO didn't quit immediately either.

To be clear, agree it appears untenable though.

All these tweets, from gove, sunak raab and other general right wingers defending it is really winding me up. I also don't think he will be sacked off or quit. They will ride it out.

[beninho]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

[beninho]

Even if Boris doesn't think he's done wrong, there's clearly a precedent for sacking morons who do this. Boris would gain considerable support were he to sack Cummings over this.  Seems like a no brainer to me.

It should be, but I really doubt they will sack him. Look at the supporters out, even on this board we seem to have a defender.

[Soul Requiem]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

What if the pair had become seriously ill then what happens with the child?

[navyblueshorts]

Do stop frothing, Ben. Why don't you wait a few days and see what happens? Scottish CMO didn't quit immediately either.

To be clear, agree it appears untenable though.

All these tweets, from gove, sunak raab and other general right wingers defending it is really winding me up. I also don't think he will be sacked off or quit. They will ride it out.

You might be right, but it'll be a huge mistake if they do. I don't think PM has any choice, assuming facts as reported.

[navyblueshorts]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

What if the pair had become seriously ill then what happens with the child?

They broke the rules I'm afraid. Given his position, he should be gone. There are millions of other parents in same position w/ kids and who might have got ill. No real excuse.

[super_realist]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

Can't you just say that both are unacceptable Beninho?

[beninho]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

What if the pair had become seriously ill then what happens with the child?

I don't know, whats happened to all the children of every person who has been ill? Are you saying, its actually been fine to take your kids to other relatives for childcare reasons? As I thought that was explicitly ruled out by johnson on 18th March?

Why do you think it was covered up, by the wife in her spectator article and on radio 4 and by downing Street when they said ge was isolating at home?

[beninho]

So providing possible childcare and paying for a prostitute are the same thing are they Ben?

Don't think I said that, but what's riskier, 2 symptomatic people driving a car with a child on a 500mile round trip for that child to stay with relatives or a gut banging a hooker?

Actually don't answer that.

Can't you just say that both are unacceptable Beninho?

Of course they are, when we had the first debate on walker I think I accepted it was stupid. But, that was based on what the government were telling rather than covering. If they had no issues with cummings trip, then why the issues with walker, or generally anyone out and about. Because it will take a lot to be worse.

[Soul Requiem]

I don't even really care either Ben but must say I enjoy how agitated you get about these things, makes it worthwhile.

[super_realist]

I'm not talking about the government having a view about Walker, why would they? I'm talking about why his club think he should get away with breaking lockdown on three separate occasions and then him lazily playing the "mental health" card.
He should at least have been fined or suspended for bringing the club into disrepute and shows a lack of integrity by the club.

On Cummings I think media pressure is going to finish him off just as it rightly did with the frequently wrong Ferguson and the stupid Scottish CMO.

[kwinigolfer]

Walker should be suspended indefinitely by the FA.
Cummings should be outathere. (But the party of law and order play by their own laws, once again there and here.)

[super_realist]

I don't even really care either Ben but must say I enjoy how agitated you get about these things, makes it worthwhile.

I know a guy who's a bit like Beninho, except he's an SNP supporter rather than a Corbyn voter like Beninho. He'll happily slag off Boris all day long for how badly he's done on Coronavirus, but won't hear a word against Sturgeon, who has a worse record on most aspects of Covid-19, Health, Education etc than Boris does. There's certainly a view up here amongst many that she's beyond criticism as if she's some sort of North Korean Dear Leader or the Fuhrer.

[beninho]

I'm a Labour voter, Corbyn just happened to be leader of the party, and there was no real alternative.

[kwinigolfer]

I don't even really care either Ben but must say I enjoy how agitated you get about these things, makes it worthwhile.

I'm surprised, given your harrowing account of your own health issue, that you don't take this a bit more seriously. Imagine you're in a medical sweet spot for suffering badly if some careless, entitled, self-important t0ssp0t contaminates you with the COVID?

[beninho]

The interesting but will be did johnson know? If this happened weeks back, and was kept secret. Who knew and kept it covered up.

[McLaren]

The issue is that if people had known that during lockdown there was a clause that said if you have a family member in need you can travel as you please many people would have used that opportunity. Many people died alone or went through difficult times during covid that it now turns out they didn't have to. The clear lockdown rules were not so clear.

Either Cummings flaunted the law or there was a set of lockdown regulations that was not in any way communicated to the public.

[Soul Requiem]

The interesting but will be did johnson know? If this happened weeks back, and was kept secret. Who knew and kept it covered up.

In other news who really cares...

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