Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[super_realist]

First topic message reminder :

I'm fine with immigration of people who bring value to the country in one way or another, who wouldn't be? What I'm not in favour of is people who bring nothing to the country in terms of skills, education, money etc. I wouldn't expect the many millions of useless Britons to be able to go the other way either just for balance.

What policy is has actively being engaged to stop people of a particular race unable to enter the country anyway? I've not seen any.

[super_realist]

If, you are able to interpret the guidelines, surely that makes every fibe open to interpretation, and therefore potentially unlawful?

I think you should get a new hobby Beninho.

[kwinigolfer]

DC's propensity for telling porkies is truly Drumpfian.
I love this apparent whopper:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52808059


Just the sort of thing the morbidly obese one would come up with.

Plus they both look sick, Cummings seems emaciated. Hope I don't look like that when I'm 51 . . . . . . . .

[beninho]

I know realist doesn't think peoples links to vote leave a brexit views have much sway on dc and bj. Which, is wrong, but hey ho.

Anyway, its reported that dc won't quit, because he thinks it will lead to the marginalisation of the vote leavers. Knowing how important brexit is to dc and the vote leave gang, mos and advisors. This is entirely believable.

[Davie]

I know realist doesn't think peoples links to vote leave a brexit views have much sway on dc and bj. Which, is wrong, but hey ho.

Today's YouGov poll shows that more than 50% of people polled who voted for Brexit want him to resign - as did more than 50% of people who voted Tory - so it's clearly not a party thing, nor a Brexit thing

[super_realist]

I know realist doesn't think peoples links to vote leave a brexit views have much sway on dc and bj. Which, is wrong, but hey ho.

Today's YouGov poll shows that more than 50% of people polled who voted for Brexit want him to resign - as did more than 50% of people who voted Tory - so it's clearly not a party thing, nor a Brexit thing

Davy, how dare you use evidence to ruin Ben's political argument.

[beninho]

Well it doesn't, because what davie raised was seperate to my point. Which was about the impact on government and the cabinet. Not the general public.

[super_realist]

Yet, the general public in the majority want him to be sacked. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

59% of voters want him to be sacked/resign

46% of Tory voters want him to remain, 46% want him to resign

52% of Brexit voters want him to resign.

[beninho]

Yep, still unsure what that has to do with my point. Which was about, the claims that if he goes, the  vote leave group, that he is heavily involved will be marginalised at the top level of government. Which would seem oretty reasonable.

Though, those polls show this has gone past political lines.

[super_realist]

Yep, still unsure what that has to do with my point. Which was about, the claims that if he goes, the  vote leave group, that he is heavily involved will be marginalised at the top level of government. Which would seem oretty reasonable.

Though, those polls show this has gone past political lines.

Again, there's absolutely no evidence to believe that is true. Do you know anyone who voted for Brexit who did so because of the involvement of Dominic Cummings? Don't be absurd.
Also, what does it matter if they are marginalised anyway? Brexit has been passed whether we like it or not, it's going to happen so it doesn't really matter how those who voted leave feel about Cummings being there anymore or not does it?

Sometimes I wonder why you bother.

[beninho]

What are you on about? I'm not talking at all about people who voted for brexit? Why are you inventing an argument?

Why does it matter if they are marginalised? You don't think the people behind brexit, don't want to continue pushing through on their ideologies until it is done and continues being done who they want it. And not to fall back to people they feel have different or not as strong opinions?

But, this is why, I started my point with you have different views, but hey ho.

[beninho]

I also do think a lot of people voted leave because of DC.

[Soul Requiem]

I also do think a lot of people voted leave because of DC.

What?

[super_realist]

I also do think a lot of people voted leave because of DC.

Name one.

[beninho]

Its hard to argue that DC wasn't influential if not pivotal in vote leave. Its hard to think that a number of people weren't sold or convinced to vote leave after seeing slogans on buses, or heard speeches that he wasn't integral too. Even down to running the campaign.

And, if he wasn't involved in getting people to change their views, I doubt they would have won the referendum.

[super_realist]

Well, that's something you have to prove, not surmise.

[beninho]

Its my view. Now, if you think that not one person was influenced by vote leave to vote brexit. Thats your view, and im not going to say its wrong.

[Soul Requiem]

It's hard to argue that he wasn't pivotal? That's not quite how it works and I doubt he had any direct effect of people voting leave, the significance of the campaigns have been way over blown.

[beninho]

It's hard to argue that he wasn't pivotal? That's not quite how it works and I doubt he had any direct effect of people voting leave, the significance of the campaigns have been way over blown.

Opinions, like bumholes we all have them.

[super_realist]

Its my view. Now, if you think that not one person was influenced by vote leave to vote brexit. Thats your view, and im not going to say its wrong.

I didn't say that, but then again you thought people were so should you not be able to name some?

It's like claiming that people were in favour of the Iraq war because of Alistair Campbell.

[dynamark]

Dc must have made some enemies in his own camp.he helps them win a huge majority 5 years of employment and then they are queuing up having never met the man to stick the knife in.Pity theres no PMQ today that would have been a belter.
The long grey haired pesto got short shrift from Hancock last night' Ihad childcare he didn't next'brilliant

[super_realist]

Dc must have made some enemies in his own camp.he helps them win a huge majority 5 years of employment and then they are queuing up having never met the man to stick the knife in.Pity theres no PMQ  today that would have been a belter.
The long grey haired pesto got short shrift from Hancock last night' Ihad childcare he didn't next'brilliant

Peston and the rest of the three stooges deserve such short shrift. Their questions are bloody boring.

[dynamark]

Well said super they are stealing a living.
Just going through my largish village earlier(essential shop)open we have post office 2 indian takeaway,chip shop,estate agents x 2,flower shop,scottys café,coop,another corner shop,station into Leicester,clothing repair/dry clean-closed shoe repair place.kiddies shoe shop. optician,pub,laurens gents barber.Loads of folk out walking (dogs)council cutting the grass at last,dustbin men on the job,deliveries,neighbour has visitors.Apart from the haircut its all pretty normal albeit with some gaps between folk.And we worry about DC.

[super_realist]

I'm quite liking having longer hair, needs tidied up, but going to keep it longer than before.

[dynamark]

Im starting to look like a much poorer Bernie Ecclestone when I was a Sven Goran Ericcson.They both do Ok with the ladies though.
Pal just rang would I like to go to his house tomorrow evening sit in the garden for a drink or two?
He has had the full heart bypass and taking all manner of medication.I politely passed.Folk desperate to get back on the bike

[westisbest]

I'm quite liking having longer hair, needs tidied up, but going to keep it longer than before.

For god sake don’t put in a bun, or ponytail.

[super_realist]

I'm quite liking having longer hair, needs tidied up, but going to keep it longer than before.

For god sake don’t put in a bun, or ponytail.

Certainly not, it's only been two months and I'd rather shave it all off than have a man bun

[McLaren]

Super

Don't forget I offered to trim you if needed.

[westisbest]

I'm quite liking having longer hair, needs tidied up, but going to keep it longer than before.

For god sake don’t put in a bun, or ponytail.

Certainly not, it's only been two months and I'd rather shave it all off than have a man bun

[McLaren]

Super

What are your options when the courses open on Friday?

[super_realist]

Super

What are your options when the courses open on Friday?

One of my courses offers 9 holes only, St Andrews has a few courses open for members only, 2 balls. For some reason the Jubilee and Castle remain closed when demand could never be higher. Typical idiocy from the Links Trust.

[westisbest]

Dominic Cummings is now a golf term I see.

‘A really long drive, that goes way out of bounds, but there’s no penalty’

[dynamark]

Brilliant loves those terms 'a Maggie Thatcher'-ultra conservative.
Maybe add could not quite see where it had gone.BBC this morning still encouraging lets say the cummings
indignation agenda I wonder if its anything to do with govt plans to alter BBC funding and charter.Not open but not really challenging the aggressive callers and texters.you 'd think he had shot the pope.

[super_realist]

Brilliant loves those terms 'a Maggie Thatcher'-ultra conservative.
Maybe add could not quite see where it had gone.BBC this morning still encouraging lets say the cummings
indignation agenda I wonder if its anything to do with govt plans to alter BBC funding and charter.Not open but not really challenging the aggressive callers and texters.you 'd think he had shot the pope.

Dyna, could you take a look at your punctuation. It is really hard to follow what you are writing.

Shooting the pope would be celebrated.

[westisbest]

Pretty childish comment there realist. C’mon.

[super_realist]

Pretty childish comment there realist. C’mon.

Why? The head of a corrupt, immoral organisation with the blood of millions on its charge sheet shot? Hardly a reason for commiserations.

[westisbest]

There’s a lot of people who wouldn’t celebrate the pope being shot I suppose.

[McLaren]

Super

I thought the new rules said you had to play locally, within about 5 miles.

Are just going to do a Cummings and drive to Fifeshire?

[dynamark]

Super you must have got the overall message(sounds like boris).
The pope I kind of agree probably the wrong choice ( im no fan of religion)maybe Bob Geldof or David Attenborough more appropriate.Do you think the BBC are having a nibble as it were.
Mac for me you can drive to Parkstone as long as you have very strong bladder and don't stop for a mcDonalds

[super_realist]

Super

I thought the new rules said you had to play locally, within about 5 miles.

Are just going to do a Cummings and drive to Fifeshire?

They aren't "rules" Mac, it's "advice".

[super_realist]

There’s a lot of people who wouldn’t celebrate the pope being shot I suppose.

Kiddie fiddling priests chief amongst them. Geldof is a bad example too as he's an odious man.

[McLaren]

Super

I thought the new rules said you had to play locally, within about 5 miles.

Are just going to do a Cummings and drive to Fifeshire?

They aren't "rules" Mac, it's "advice".

So you feel like a journey from Edinburgh to fifeshire to play golf is the right call at the moment?


And remember you clubhouse will be closed and you can't stop anywhere. That is a long time without access to the bathroom.

[super_realist]

Why not? There's no risk to the public involved.

Who cares about the toilet? I'm outdoors I can do it in the bushes.

[McLaren]

Super

I just didn't think that sort of journey was allowed. But I guess the rules are vague.

[super_realist]

Super

I just didn't think that sort of journey was allowed. But I guess the rules are vague.

I don't think they are encouraging it. The awful Krankie would love to keep us locked up but I have run further than 5 miles from my house at the moment, so what's the problem with driving it?

[McLaren]

I am not sure saying I have broken the rules a bit already is a defence for totally breaching the rules.

I would say that if you wanted to continue in the spirit of containing covid you would sadly have to conclude you can't play golf yet, because you don't have a club in town.

[super_realist]

They aren't rules Mac. It's "advice". If they were being specific about it being 5 miles, they would have rammed that home and been very specific.

How am I putting anyone at risk by playing golf? I realise you're just being a pedant, but in what way am I putting anyone at risk more than I would by staying in Edinburgh. You have repeatedly said that golf should be allowed because it's no more risky than taking a walk in the park, so is your problem with me driving my own car, on my own 50 miles? How is that going to cause a problem for the containment of coronavirus?

I'm in my car alone, I'm playing with one other person at a distance of 2m minimum. Where's the increased risk? As if you are going to stay within 5 miles of your house until told by Lego Hair otherwise.

[I'm never wrong]

but in what way am I putting anyone at risk more than I would by staying in Edinburgh.

Not wishing this on you Super, but this is the argument. By being asymptomatic - or whatever the word is -and being involved in a bad car crash - not necessarily your fault. Bunch of emergency services get involved, they all become infected. The further you go, you increase your chances, even minutely.

[McLaren]

I just think it is one thing to play as locally as possible and another to start embarking on golf trips well away from where you live. People moving between different areas is obviously one way to further spread an outbreak so minimizing travel away from your local area should be adhered to.

You have to think about what else becomes acceptable if you are willing to travel between cities/regions just to play golf and whether that is helping to get the R0 down?

[McLaren]

plus what INW said. I thin you know what you are doing is not currently in the spirit of the lockdown and helping minimizing the impact of covid.

[super_realist]

but in what way am I putting anyone at risk more than I would by staying in Edinburgh.

Not wishing this on you Super, but this is the argument. By being asymptomatic - or whatever the word is -and being involved in a bad car crash - not necessarily your fault. Bunch of emergency services get involved, they all become infected. The further you go, you increase your chances, even minutely.

Statistically I'm more likely to have an accident in the home or out for a run which requires hospital treatment.
There's risk to everything. If we worried to that level of minutiae we'd never do anything.

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