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Another chat thread dedicated to speculation, rumination, and general perambulation through the trials and tribulations of the club from the west with no forwards and the club from the east without a backs coach.

One day we'll have more rugby to talk about!

BigGee wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

bsando wrote:Bet Cockers will bring up the salary cap debate again after this one

What would that solve for matches like this though?

A bunch of academy players, development contract players, and low-cost second rankers for the most part.  Fardy is the marquee player.

Agreed, this is nothing to do with money, just about talent and development pathways

Unfortunately, BigGee, that's exactly it. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the pathway in places like Ireland with nearly everything below academy level stopped at age-grade and schools since beginning of the year and no sign of let up from Covid.

Pot Hale wrote:

bsando wrote:Bet Cockers will bring up the salary cap debate again after this one

What would that solve for matches like this though?

A bunch of academy players, development contract players, and low-cost second rankers for the most part.  Fardy is the marquee player.

I was just predicting Cockerill’s after game comments not trying to have a dig at Leinster’s resources.

bsando wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

bsando wrote:Bet Cockers will bring up the salary cap debate again after this one

What would that solve for matches like this though?

A bunch of academy players, development contract players, and low-cost second rankers for the most part.  Fardy is the marquee player.

I was just predicting Cockerill’s after game comments not trying to have a dig at Leinster’s resources.

I realise that Bsando. I was more pondering on Cocker's behalf.

Well it was a pumping, but a respectable pumping if that's such a thing - it looked like it was going to be 60/70 points at one point!

Pot Hale wrote:

bsando wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

bsando wrote:Bet Cockers will bring up the salary cap debate again after this one

What would that solve for matches like this though?

A bunch of academy players, development contract players, and low-cost second rankers for the most part.  Fardy is the marquee player.

I was just predicting Cockerill’s after game comments not trying to have a dig at Leinster’s resources.

I realise that Bsando.  I was more pondering on Cocker's behalf.

He's certainly not shy when it comes to criticising the Pro14.

Adam Ashe has signed for the LA Giltinis, which is apparently a Martini based cocktail!

RDW wrote:Well it was a pumping, but a respectable pumping if that's such a thing - it looked like it was going to be 60/70 points at one point!

Darge looked good off the bench. I think he's going to be another great Edinburgh back rower, certainly has something about him. I thought Johnstone looked good as a replacement for Bennett as well. Him and Dean seem to work really well as a pairing and come to think of it, they had a good run of games together when Edinburgh started to get on a good run of form in Europe and the league. Perhaps they should be lining up together more often?

I think Leinster scored several trys from turnover ball which was totally Edinburgh's fault. Too many unforced errors in attack unfortunately. Leinster read the Edinburgh defence very well at times too. Just all round excellent performance from them.

RDW wrote:Adam Ashe has signed for the LA Giltinis, which is apparently a Martini based cocktail!

That has to be the coolest club side in world rugby!

bsando wrote:

RDW wrote:Adam Ashe has signed for the LA Giltinis, which is apparently a Martini based cocktail!

That has to be the coolest club side in world rugby!

Can you imagine the comments on here if an Edinburgh player had signed for them!

RDW wrote:

bsando wrote:

RDW wrote:Adam Ashe has signed for the LA Giltinis, which is apparently a Martini based cocktail!

That has to be the coolest club side in world rugby!

Can you imagine the comments on here if an Edinburgh player had signed for them!

off the scale Flounder, off the scale!

The continued one-eyed, blinkered view the west coast warriors wannabes have is still startling

Finn signs a 3 year extension at Racing. Couldn't see him going anywhere else!

RDW wrote: Couldn't see him going anywhere else!

The pub?

Gooseberry wrote:

RDW wrote: Couldn't see him going anywhere else!

The pub?

Too soon

tigertattie wrote:

Gooseberry wrote:

RDW wrote: Couldn't see him going anywhere else!

The pub?

Too soon

It's five o'clock somewhere.

Glasgow Warriors Head Coach Danny Wilson is able to call upon the services of Nick Grigg for Monday night’s Guinness PRO14 clash with Munster, following the centre’s full release from Scotland’s Autumn Nations Cup squad.

The 28-year-old is one of four changes to the starting XV from Glasgow’s most recent outing, as the Warriors prepare for a first meeting with Munster since October 2018.

Enrique Pieretto continues at tight-head prop after making his first start against Ulster last time out, the Argentinian joining Aki Seiuli and Grant Stewart in an unchanged front-row.

Having made his club debut off the bench in Belfast, Lewis Bean will make his first start for Glasgow Warriors alongside Rob Harley in the engine room.

The back-row unit is retained for the fourth successive match, as captain Ryan Wilson and Tom Gordon line up either side of number eight TJ Ioane.

Sean Kennedy will make his first start at Scotstoun since November 2012, the scrum-half lining up alongside Pete Horne in the half-backs.

Grigg’s inclusion in the number 13 jersey sees Robbie Fergusson shift across to inside centre, the Scotland 7s star having been named in the Guinness PRO14 Team of the Round for his performance against Ulster.

Tommy Seymour and Robbie Nairn both come into the back three after missing the match in Belfast, with Glenn Bryce retaining the full-back shirt.

After his late cameo against Ulster, Caleb Korteweg is in line to make his first home appearance for Glasgow Warriors after being named amongst the replacements for Monday night’s encounter.

The scrum-half is one of two changes to the bench, the other seeing Niko Matawalu rotate to the replacements after starting last time out.

Alex Allan and D’arcy Rae are once again named as the replacement props, joining Johnny Matthews as the front-row cover for Monday night.

Hamish Bain makes his fourth consecutive appearance in a Glasgow matchday 23, with Fotu Lokotui named in the number 20 jersey.

The replacements are completed by Brandon Thomson, the South African having come off the bench in both of Glasgow’s two most recent fixtures.


Speaking to glasgowwarriors.org, Head Coach Danny Wilson said: “Munster are a good side and a tough challenge, but we know we have the players to be able to go out there and execute.

“It’s nice to welcome Nick [Grigg] back into the squad. Although he’ll be disappointed to have been released by Scotland, tomorrow is a chance for him to get game time and he’s keen to come out and make an impact in the midfield.

“Caleb [Korteweg] stepped up for us last weekend and he gets the chance to the same again tomorrow night.

“We're at home this weekend and we want to put on a display our supporters would be proud of."

Glasgow Warriors team to play Munster in the Guinness PRO14, Monday 23 November, kick-off 8.15pm, live on Premier Sports 1. You can follow the action in the Live Match Centre on glasgowwarriors.org.

1. Aki Seiuli (16)
2. Grant Stewart (35)
3. Enrique Pieretto (4)
4. Lewis Bean (1)
5. Rob Harley (236)
6. Ryan Wilson (C) (175)
7. Tom Gordon (23)
8. TJ Ioane (3)

9. Sean Kennedy (9)
10. Pete Horne (175)
11. Robbie Nairn (11)
12. Robbie Fergusson (3)
13. Nick Grigg (75)
14. Tommy Seymour (148)
15. Glenn Bryce (30)

Replacements

16. Johnny Matthews (4)
17. Alex Allan (106)
18. D’arcy Rae (75)
19. Hamish Bain (3)
20. Fotu Lokotui (4)
21. Caleb Korteweg (1)
22. Brandon Thomson (26)
23. Niko Matawalu (132)

Unavailable due to injury: Jamie Dobie, Richie Gray, Adam Hastings, Paddy Kelly, Kiran McDonald, Stafford McDowall, Leone Nakarawa, Adam Nicol, Kyle Steyn.

International duty: Fraser Brown, Scott Cummings, Matt Fagerson, Zander Fagerson, Adam Hastings, George Horne, Sam Johnson, Huw Jones, Oli Kebble, Ali Price, George Turner.

Well we get Grigg back from the Scotland squad, that helps a bit I guess but you can't see much othyer thyan a long night against Munster coming up.

As well as the international absentees, that is quite an injury list as well.

Good experience for the young kids I guess.

BigGee wrote:Well we get Grigg back from the Scotland squad, that helps a bit I guess but you can't see much othyer thyan a long night against Munster coming up.

As well as the international absentees, that is quite an injury list as well.

Good experience for the young kids I guess.

It would be if there were any in the starting xv!

Think it's about time Wilson calls on the academy players. Nothing to lose at this point!

Is anyone hopeful about this game against Munster?

If Ollie Smith, Rufus McLean and/or Ross Thompson were getting a look in, I would tend to be more understanding of the recent poor performances. At least for Munster Nairn, Kortewag and Bain will get a good look in.

20 players injured or on international duty....at least we have great depth at 10 with our first choice potentially out until April.

Heck of a game so far. Old fashioned blood and guts with lots of afters off the ball.
Amazingly enough, Batman has been involved in some of it.

Caught up on the Munster clash last night. Anyone else feel Glasgow were hard done by the ref at these moments?

67.18 - Obvious Coombes knock on yet ref says backwards despite having full view of it. Wilson Yellowed shortly afterwards

71.49 - Munster 15 off feet preventing Rae from presenting the ball (tougher one to call for the ref because of all the bodies in the ruck)

Tom English, Peter Wright and Andy Burke on the BBC Scottish rugby podcast have all just said he was poor and missed a lot. All agree Munster deserved the win (I do too) but it's clear the Pro14 is well behind other leagues in terms of reffing standards and consistency.

It was a poor game by the ref. The consistency was not there except at the lineout. Should have booked the two 8's after the second incident of handbags and did not have the stomach for it.

The maul defence was atrocious, though not sure who that is on. Would rather see Bain get in ahead of Bean who is not going to be around in a few months time. We are maybe one lock shy in the squad due to Cummings being called up by Scotland after losing Davidson, Henderson and Sykes in the offseason. Bean is not as good as any of those players.

I am not sure there is much point starting Seuli and Pieretto over Allan and Rae. They are not playing at a high standard and are NSQ. Rae may even be the better scrum TH at this moment in time. Barring a stupid penalty taking out the kicking player by Stewart (what is it about Scotland hookers and boneheaded penalties?), he was decent.

Wilson was an idiot for his yellow, no need. Effectively ended the game. The back row with Ioane and Wilson has plenty of bite but it is clear we are struggling to get go forward. We need Flockhart back into the fold.

The backs, Seymour was good in the period he was on and Grigg was injured too early to comment. Bryce had a good game, someone who gets much maligned for his time at Edinburgh. He is not Hogg (or H Jones or Maitland) but he has been/is a solid, unspectacular club player for Glasgow. Similar with Kennedy. Nairn gets a 6 from me and is worth another start. Fergusson was okay.

Not sure what we are learning with B Thomson playing at the minute. He is okay, a decent fifth choice player who should be in the Championship in England or Fed 1 in France. As third choice, he is being asked to do too much (makes Jackson retiring hurt more) and really R Thompson needs to be given a chance. Chamberlain is looking decent at Edinburgh, time to give youth a chance at Glasgow.

Glasgow are struggling at the moment, no doubt about it, but the fixture list could hardly have been less kind as well, giving us Leinster, Munster and Ulster whilst in our depleted state. They are the best three sides in the league at the moment, no question.

We showed plenty of fight, no question, but ran out of gas eventually.

Hopefully we will start getting a few players back now and also get some fixtures where we can be a bit more competitive.

It is going to be a tough old season though, no doubt about it.

With only one game left for Scotland I'm hopeful the squad can be trimmed down and players released back to the clubs. For Edinburgh I'm thinking Toolis in particular, who has been holding tackle bags for weeks. We could really do with him against Ulster. Would be nice to get one of Nel or Berghan too but I suspect one of them will be kept as backup.

There's less obvious options to fix Glasgow's woes as the forwards in the squad will all probably be playing.

I watched the Glasgow game and afraid the result was all too predictable. Can't fault the effort of the players, but they are the sum of their parts - a cobbled together selection of players with little team identity, some of whom are probably not good enough to make an impact at this level.

I really feel for Danny Wilson, he is facing a perfect storm of issues, but I can't shake the feeling things have gone badly wrong, strategically, at the Warriors. Our best players will leave for money and a chance of titles, but the recruitment below that level has been second rate for some time now. Perhaps most strikingly, our academy doesn't seem to be producing any players to support the team through this period - the commentators and pundits keep banging on about how these experiences will be good for the 'young team'. I have no idea what they are on about, the average age of the team on Monday would be much closer to 30 than 20.

EST wrote:I watched the Glasgow game and afraid the result was all too predictable. Can't fault the effort of the players, but they are the sum of their parts - a cobbled together selection of players with little team identity, some of whom are probably not good enough to make an impact at this level.

I really feel for Danny Wilson, he is facing a perfect storm of issues, but I can't shake the feeling things have gone badly wrong, strategically, at the Warriors. Our best players will leave for money and a chance of titles, but the recruitment below that level has been second rate for some time now. Perhaps most strikingly, our academy doesn't seem to be producing any players to support the team through this period - the commentators and pundits keep banging on about how these experiences will be good for the 'young team'. I have no idea what they are on about, the average age of the team on Monday would be much closer to 30 than 20.

This. It's been one of my gripes with the warriors press releases. For all the talk of the talented young players only Dobie has actually made an appearance, with Bean the other exception. There was a list of 15 academy players attached to Glasgow so what's going on?

They keep mentioning how good Ollie smith is yet don't even bench him. There's Thompson (not Thomson) who could help negate the problem area of fly half. There's second rows, front rows who are all available.

At this point what does DW have to lose? He even said at the start of the season it was going to be tough to compete so why not see what the youngsters can do?

Glasgow are very reminiscent of Solomon's Edinburgh squad right now. Lots of aging journeymen with the poor results to show for it.

NeilyBroon wrote:

EST wrote:I watched the Glasgow game and afraid the result was all too predictable.  Can't fault the effort of the players, but they are the sum of their parts - a cobbled together selection of players with little team identity, some of whom are probably not good enough to make an impact at this level.

I really feel for Danny Wilson, he is facing a perfect storm of issues, but I can't shake the feeling things have gone badly wrong, strategically, at the Warriors.  Our best players will leave for money and a chance of titles,  but the recruitment below that level has been second rate for some time now.  Perhaps most strikingly, our academy doesn't seem to be producing any players to support the team through this period - the commentators and pundits keep banging on about how these experiences will be good for the 'young team'.  I have no idea what they are on about, the average age of the team on Monday would be much closer to 30 than 20.

This. It's been one of my gripes with the warriors press releases. For all the talk of the talented young players only Dobie has actually made an appearance, with Bean the other exception. There was a list of 15 academy players attached to Glasgow so what's going on?

They keep mentioning how good Ollie smith is yet don't even bench him. There's Thompson (not Thomson) who could help negate the problem area of fly half. There's second rows, front rows who are all available.

At this point what does DW have to lose? He even said at the start of the season it was going to be tough to compete so why not see what the youngsters can do?

Glasgow are very reminiscent of Solomon's Edinburgh squad right now. Lots of aging journeymen with the poor results to show for it.

Yeah, it's really weird - almost universally the team has been described as young and inexperienced. They may be inexperienced, but they self evidently aren't young. It's all very well bringing in these stop-gap players, and in some cases I can see an argument for it, but nobody is asking why the young players you mention above aren't getting an opportunity, or perhaps more importantly, why the system isn't producing players ready to step up.

EST wrote:

NeilyBroon wrote:

EST wrote:I watched the Glasgow game and afraid the result was all too predictable.  Can't fault the effort of the players, but they are the sum of their parts - a cobbled together selection of players with little team identity, some of whom are probably not good enough to make an impact at this level.

I really feel for Danny Wilson, he is facing a perfect storm of issues, but I can't shake the feeling things have gone badly wrong, strategically, at the Warriors.  Our best players will leave for money and a chance of titles,  but the recruitment below that level has been second rate for some time now.  Perhaps most strikingly, our academy doesn't seem to be producing any players to support the team through this period - the commentators and pundits keep banging on about how these experiences will be good for the 'young team'.  I have no idea what they are on about, the average age of the team on Monday would be much closer to 30 than 20.

This. It's been one of my gripes with the warriors press releases. For all the talk of the talented young players only Dobie has actually made an appearance, with Bean the other exception. There was a list of 15 academy players attached to Glasgow so what's going on?

They keep mentioning how good Ollie smith is yet don't even bench him. There's Thompson (not Thomson) who could help negate the problem area of fly half. There's second rows, front rows who are all available.

At this point what does DW have to lose? He even said at the start of the season it was going to be tough to compete so why not see what the youngsters can do?

Glasgow are very reminiscent of Solomon's Edinburgh squad right now. Lots of aging journeymen with the poor results to show for it.

Yeah, it's really weird - almost universally the team has been described as young and inexperienced. They may be inexperienced, but they self evidently aren't young. It's all very well bringing in these stop-gap players, and in some cases I can see an argument for it, but nobody is asking why the young players you mention above aren't getting an opportunity, or perhaps more importantly, why the system isn't producing players ready to step up.

I think the thing is it's a bit chicken and egg with Scottish rugby, unless they're brought in from academies in the English prem where they get exposed in a stepwise way so are probably ready to start let alone bench, the best way is just to throw them in and see how they get on rather than fannying about with the S6 which is obviously not even an option this year. The most successful warriors team were all pretty much straight from U20s and just thrown into it almost from the off.

Arguably the reason the Irish side youth is so good is because they just expose them earlier. I wouldn't say based on the U20s that they were much more talented than any of our boys, there's just a lot less handwringing over putting them in the squads for the pro14.

I am going to put out there some kind of rationale as to why DW is not stuffing the team full of youngsters at the moment.

The fact is we are getting beaten and in some cases quite badly and it is hard to see how throwing very green young players at that problem will improved it.

For instance if he did pick Smith and Lambert say and they had absolute howlers in a team that was going backwards at a rate of knots several things could happen. Firstly they could get injured, secondly their confidence could get shredded and lastly the fans could look at them and say, what is the fuss about this supposed talented youngster, he really does not look to be very good.

Throwing youngsters into a failing team is only likely to make it fail some more and despite the fact that DW will get a bit of latitude this season for the many reasons that have already been stated, it does remain a results based business and we can't just accept getting stuffed every week. For our own and the competitions credibility, we do need to turn up.

I seem to remember Cockers and Solly saying similar things at Edinburgh back in the day when they were trying to turn the ship around. The youngsters did eventually get their chance.

Do I want to see the youngsters get their opportunity, absolutely. Do I want to see them get thrown to the wolves, not so much.

I hope they do get bloodied a bit more as the season goes on and when we have some stronger teams to put out.

I do feel sorry for DW at the moment as he is dammed if he does or does not and really can't win.

That can be taken as a pun, should you wish!

BigGee wrote:I am going to put out there some kind of rationale as to why DW is not stuffing the team full of youngsters at the moment.

The fact is we are getting beaten and in some cases quite badly and it is hard to see how throwing very green young players at that problem will improved it.

For instance if he did pick Smith and Lambert say and they had absolute howlers in a team that was going backwards at a rate of knots several things could happen. Firstly they could get injured, secondly their confidence could get shredded and lastly the fans could look at them and say, what is the fuss about this supposed talented youngster, he really does not look to be very good.

Throwing youngsters into a failing team is only likely to make it fail some more and despite the fact that DW will get a bit of latitude this season for the many reasons that have already been stated, it does remain a results based business and we can't just accept getting stuffed every week. For our own and the competitions credibility, we do need to turn up.

I seem to remember Cockers and Solly saying similar things at Edinburgh back in the day when they were trying to turn the ship around. The youngsters did eventually get their chance.

Do I want to see the youngsters get their opportunity, absolutely. Do I want to see them get thrown to the wolves, not so much.

I hope they do get bloodied a bit more as the season goes on and when we have some stronger teams to put out.

I do feel sorry for DW at the moment as he is dammed if he does or does not and really can't win.

That can be taken as a pun, should you wish!

Agree with the sentiment but if we've not got good enough senior players then we're going to lose every week and not gain anything from it! I'm not saying put 15 young players on the pitch every game, I'm saying swap a few of the older heads out. Brandon Thomson, for instance for Ross Thompson, Matawalu for McClean or Smith. I'm all for evolution not revolution. I don't buy the argument that if we have a young squad they'll get pasted. They may well play much better because they want to prove they are ready for pro rugby and aren't weighed down with the expectation. Watching their seniors repeatedly lose is hardly going to do them good either.

Solomons didn't really use any of the local talent. Cockers was pretty much forced to at times but it really paid dividends with him, look at where Edinburgh are now, largely through contributions from the younger players. Exeter, Sarries it's all the same trend. Bringing their own talent through has helped them (in Sarries case some clever accounting too, but fundamentally).

BigGee wrote:I am going to put out there some kind of rationale as to why DW is not stuffing the team full of youngsters at the moment.

The fact is we are getting beaten and in some cases quite badly and it is hard to see how throwing very green young players at that problem will improved it.

For instance if he did pick Smith and Lambert say and they had absolute howlers in a team that was going backwards at a rate of knots several things could happen. Firstly they could get injured, secondly their confidence could get shredded and lastly the fans could look at them and say, what is the fuss about this supposed talented youngster, he really does not look to be very good.

Throwing youngsters into a failing team is only likely to make it fail some more and despite the fact that DW will get a bit of latitude this season for the many reasons that have already been stated, it does remain a results based business and we can't just accept getting stuffed every week. For our own and the competitions credibility, we do need to turn up.

I seem to remember Cockers and Solly saying similar things at Edinburgh back in the day when they were trying to turn the ship around. The youngsters did eventually get their chance.

Do I want to see the youngsters get their opportunity, absolutely. Do I want to see them get thrown to the wolves, not so much.

I hope they do get bloodied a bit more as the season goes on and when we have some stronger teams to put out.

I do feel sorry for DW at the moment as he is dammed if he does or does not and really can't win.

That can be taken as a pun, should you wish!

I agree with a lot of this BigGee, but like Neily I would't advocate throwing loads of players from our Academy in at once, but I would have hoped by now that we would have at least seen some sign of those who have performed very well at jnr int level - Smith in particular. If we're going to use being a young team as an excuse for losing, we might as well actually do it and reap the benefits later. It's worth remembering that in the 2010/11 season Glasgow bloodied a whole generation of young talent who would become the backbone of the team for the next generation - Wilson, Harley, Horne, Hogg all got their shot that year, partly as a result of the WC. Yes we finished near the bottom of the table, but the long-term benefit was huge and we're likely to finish near the bottom anyway.

The second part of my issue is that we actually don't have a huge number of players able to step up from the Academy as some are still very young, which is almost more of a problem.

team's up

1. Aki Seiuli (17)
2. Grant Stewart (36)
3. Enrique Pieretto (5)
4. Lewis Bean (2)
5. Kiran McDonald (27)
6. Rob Harley (237)
7. Tom Gordon (24)
8. Ryan Wilson (C) (177)

9. Sean Kennedy (10)
10. Pete Horne (176)
11. Ratu Tagive (18)
12. Robbie Fergusson (4)
13. Nick Grigg (76)
14. Lee Jones (82)
15. Glenn Bryce (31)

Replacements

16. Johnny Matthews (5)
17. Alex Allan (107)
18. D’arcy Rae (76)
19. Fotu Lokotui (5)
20. TJ Ioane (4)
21. Jamie Dobie (10)
22. Brandon Thomson (27)
23. Huw Jones (41)

Not a bad side. Great to see McDonald back in the second row. I assume Big Bad can cover lock and Ioane and Lokotui come on in the back row. Fergusson has been very solid defensively, which is great because Scotland really need another solid, reliable defensively sound centre! Shug is on the bench and it'll be good if he and the House Elf come on and really up the pace.

The lesser spotted Lee Jones puts in an appearance, first game for the warriors for nearly a year! DW seems to be systematically going through his wingers and having a look at them all. None of them have set the heather on fire so far it has to be said.

This looks like a more solid pack this week and should hopefully be able to compete with the Blues and get us some decent ball to play with. This is a competitive match at long last and might give us more of an indication of where we are in the great scheme of things this season.

Shuggy will get a run off the bench. That might means that Toonie has binned him for this series or that he wants him in match shape for next weekend. Heart says latter, head says former!

This will probably be Glasgow's best chance for a win.

Good to see Dobie back on the bench too. Not too convinced that DW should have kept Wilson in the starting xv for this game. Thought he was dreadful against Munster and seems to be revelling in just being a d**k rather than focusing on the actual game.

L Jones has been injured for ages hasn't he? Great for Glasgow to have him back involved again. Looks a decent selection, hopefully they can get the win.

It is an alright 23 and Cardiff are a step down on the Irish provinces. We gave Munster some trouble so hoping we can go one better this time. Only missing 16 to injury and international duty rather than 20.

Still don't understand why Allan and Rae were not swapped in.

Got a tall second row for this one, aren't Bean and McDonald both 6'8 odd? Would have put Bain in for Lokotui on the bench and don't particularly like Harley at BS but neither is the end of the world.

Happy to see L Jones come back in and there will be impact off the bench with Dobie and H Jones. Youngest starting player in the backs might be Fergusson at 27, something that will hopefully change for the Six Nations games.

Hickey and Christie were playing against each other today in the Mitre 10 final, Auckland vs Tasman. Hickey missed a potential 77th minute match winning drop goal and Christie booted the ball out at the end as the clock went red to win it for Tasman.

Remember the Nigerian teenager signed by Edinburgh?

Good footwork for a big lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxEfxza1gM&t=238s

Mcsweens wrote:Remember the Nigerian teenager signed by Edinburgh?

Good footwork for a big lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxEfxza1gM&t=238s

Only problem with that, is that Edinburgh did not sign him.

He has gone to the Ealing Academy.

I guess time will tell if that is a good or bad thing. He is still available to Scotland but clearly is still very green in his rugby development.

BigGee wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Remember the Nigerian teenager signed by Edinburgh?

Good footwork for a big lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxEfxza1gM&t=238s

Only problem with that, is that Edinburgh did not sign him.

He has gone to the Ealing Academy.

I guess time will tell if that is a good or bad thing. He is still available to Scotland but clearly is still very green in his rugby development.

Yes, it's a fun highlights package, but he's very raw indeed, particularly in the tackle area - thankyou for the update.

Edinburgh team much as expected for tomorrow, and another game for young Chamberlain. Huge ask against Ulster, but that back row of Bradbury, Crosbie and Miller with Mata on the bench is very decent.

Glasgow playing some decent high tempo stuff

Sean Kennedy and Glen Bryce just look like different players when they play for Glasgow

I can't believe we haven't seen any tries in this game. Glasgow have been the better side by a mile. However Kaahdiff could easily be two tries ahead.
If DW feels confident that Bean and McDonald will last the full 80 then he could well replace BBB and Batman with TJ and Lokotui which may well give us a bit more oomph around the fringes.
Furra Linee is having a great game with ball in hand: kicking not so much.
I think Glasgow should pull away in the second half.

Huw Jones takes an interception and scores under the posts

Suddenly a 2 score game

Dumb drop goal attempt - felt there was a try coming.

Good win for Glasgow

Nor pretty but we were well on top for most of the game

This is probably a fairer reflection of where we are as a team at the moment, well below the Leinster/Mumster/Ulster level but we can be very competitive against just about everyone else, even with a much weakened side

Kennedy, Bryce and Lee Jones (MoM) all had really good games

Gicater wrote:Dumb drop goal attempt - felt there was a try coming.

Would have been a good call if he had scored it (which he should have!)

There was a short period just after the Blues scored when the Glasgow players looked as if they were about to fold. Their body language was poor and individually and collectively they seemed to lose focus. I was worried that the game would slip away from them there. Then on 50 minutes they aggressively blitzed a Cardiff attack. They didn't just fly into three big tackles and stop the attack, they drove Cardiff back, ripped the ball and then drove into Cardiff's 22. Glasgow were never on the back foot after that.
Next up Dragons at home.

Gicater wrote:Dumb drop goal attempt - felt there was a try coming.

Welcome to the forum Gicater - even if you are a weegie fan (I'm assuming)

You're going to have to explain your username to us?

RDW wrote:

Gicater wrote:Dumb drop goal attempt - felt there was a try coming.

Welcome to the forum Gicater - even if you are a weegie fan (I'm assuming)

You're going to have to explain your username to us?

We can never have enough Glasgow fans on this forum!

I was out on my bike this morning only about a mile from home and cracking on, as it was freezing and I saw a guy jogging on the other side of the road in a Glasgow Rugby Shirt.

I thought I was the only one in the village around here in East London!