Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[beninho]

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The problem states, "If I buy two tickets with different numbers" – msinghal Jul 22 '15 at 6:40
Correct. I just wanted to clarify this explicitly, since this apparently causes the confusion in the internet the OP was writing about... – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 7:38
So let me get this right. If I have a 1 in 14 million of chance of winning the lottery, if I buy a further ticket with a different sequence of numbers to the first one for the same draw my chance of winning is slashed to 1 in 7 million? – Rickie Jul 22 '15 at 8:16
Yes, that is correct. – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 8:23

[navyblueshorts]

1300 plus today. This must be linked to the Christmas is fine knock yourselves out guys message that was played for a while.

Must be? Not so sure. Maybe, but it was only the one day in the end. Think more likely to do w/ increasing non-adherence in general and new variant.

Probably comes down to how much faith you have that people didn't spend Christmas together.  People were told Christmas was fine on a number of days building up. The fact they were then told Christmas isn't fine, alas, wouldn't negate what they'd been told all along. People got together because the govt said they could.  I know soneobe who's family got together, and I now know soneone covid positive .

This new varient was known about when they were still letting people think Christmas would be fine. Everyone knows the Christmas plan was an attempt to garner support and was never a good idea. Mixed messages again.

Too many people are deliberately playing ignorant - if they got together for more than one day, in contravention of even the late change, I have no sympathy and it's no excuse. It really isn't.

Mixed message my arse. The basics haven't changed from day 1 - don't make journeys that aren't necessary, don't socialise for the sake of it, wash hands, keep your distance etc etc. There's also zero excuse for saying that one doesn't know what the 'message' is on any one day - all the info is on the UKG websites and a simple Google search will get you there if you don't know. There's no excuse for not checking that advice before simply doing something and then saying "Oh, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.".

[navyblueshorts]

Depends what you class as meet up?

You know full well what the question meant.

So, that's a 'yes' then.

[Soul Requiem]

Let me know your definition and I'll answer your question.

It's not a difficult question.

[beninho]

1300 plus today. This must be linked to the Christmas is fine knock yourselves out guys message that was played for a while.

Must be? Not so sure. Maybe, but it was only the one day in the end. Think more likely to do w/ increasing non-adherence in general and new variant.

Probably comes down to how much faith you have that people didn't spend Christmas together.  People were told Christmas was fine on a number of days building up. The fact they were then told Christmas isn't fine, alas, wouldn't negate what they'd been told all along. People got together because the govt said they could.  I know soneobe who's family got together, and I now know soneone covid positive .

This new varient was known about when they were still letting people think Christmas would be fine. Everyone knows the Christmas plan was an attempt to garner support and was never a good idea. Mixed messages again.

Too many people are deliberately playing ignorant - if they got together for more than one day, in contravention of even the late change, I have no sympathy and it's no excuse. It really isn't.

Mixed message my arse. The basics haven't changed from day 1 - don't make journeys that aren't necessary, don't socialise for the sake of it, wash hands, keep your distance etc etc. There's also zero excuse for saying that one doesn't know what the 'message' is on any one day - all the info is on the UKG websites and a simple Google search will get you there if you don't know. There's no excuse for not checking that advice before simply doing something and then saying "Oh, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.".

You aren't stupid enough to think its changed the same since day 1? The incentives to go out to resteraunts, the clips telling people to get back into the office and get on the trains. Alas my job being linked to Boris even advised a lot of people to go into the office.

[beninho]

Let me know your definition and I'll answer your question.

It's not a difficult question.

Then just fricking clarify it then. Its a vague question.

[Soul Requiem]

If you don't wish to answer that's fine.

[beninho]

If you don't wish to answer that's fine.

I dont know what the question is. Define what you mean.

[beninho]

Depends what you class as meet up?

You know full well what the question meant.

So, that's a 'yes' then.

Its a, no idea what he means by meet up.

[Soul Requiem]

You don't know what meet up means?

[beninho]

You don't know what meet up means?

Inside? Outside? At work? In a park? In the shop? Planned? Not planned? For Christmas Dinner? For a drink? In what context would you like to know?

[beninho]

And how far back over Christmas?

[Soul Requiem]

You don't know what meet up means?

Inside? Outside? At work? In a park? In the shop? Planned? Not planned? For Christmas Dinner? For a drink? In what context would you like to know?

Ahhh bless you won't answer.

[beninho]

You don't know what meet up means?

Inside? Outside? At work? In a park? In the shop? Planned? Not planned? For Christmas Dinner? For a drink? In what context would you like to know?

Ahhh bless you won't answer.

Seems neither will you.

[Soul Requiem]

It's a very general question and isn't that complicated.

[westisbest]

Any of the above Ben

[beninho]

4th December went to an outdoor christmas Market and met my sisters and dad. Nearer christmas my dad came to my house twice and stood on the doorstep exchanged presents for the rest of my family, as he was staying with one of my sisters.
On christmas eve I met my sister in the car park of the hospital where she was having cancer treatment. We chatted for about 15mins.
I was at work and met a number of people on the 22nd 23rd and 30th.

[Soul Requiem]

Do you want to know how many sh*ts or wa*nks i had aswell?

That wasn't so difficult now was it?

Presumably you didn't meet people inside because you possess your own free will and there is your answer.

[Soul Requiem]

Common sense is a political point now.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1347926359767732237?s=19

Over a 1000 deaths, its a great day for the government. Hope you are also celebrating SR2.

[navyblueshorts]

1300 plus today. This must be linked to the Christmas is fine knock yourselves out guys message that was played for a while.

Must be? Not so sure. Maybe, but it was only the one day in the end. Think more likely to do w/ increasing non-adherence in general and new variant.

Probably comes down to how much faith you have that people didn't spend Christmas together.  People were told Christmas was fine on a number of days building up. The fact they were then told Christmas isn't fine, alas, wouldn't negate what they'd been told all along. People got together because the govt said they could.  I know soneobe who's family got together, and I now know soneone covid positive .

This new varient was known about when they were still letting people think Christmas would be fine. Everyone knows the Christmas plan was an attempt to garner support and was never a good idea. Mixed messages again.

Too many people are deliberately playing ignorant - if they got together for more than one day, in contravention of even the late change, I have no sympathy and it's no excuse. It really isn't.

Mixed message my arse. The basics haven't changed from day 1 - don't make journeys that aren't necessary, don't socialise for the sake of it, wash hands, keep your distance etc etc. There's also zero excuse for saying that one doesn't know what the 'message' is on any one day - all the info is on the UKG websites and a simple Google search will get you there if you don't know. There's no excuse for not checking that advice before simply doing something and then saying "Oh, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.".

You aren't stupid enough to think its changed the same since day 1? The incentives to go out to resteraunts, the clips telling people to get back into the office and get on the trains. Alas my job being linked to Boris even advised a lot of people to go into the office.

Jesus H Christ. Read! The basics haven't changed - what is it about that, which you don't appreciate? Even the 'eat out to help out' - did anyone have to go out? No. I don't recall anyone saying "get on the trains". Take some personal responsibility, just for once.

You and I won't agree on this; it's plain. Everything is the Government's fault in your view. Let's leave it at that.

[navyblueshorts]

Depends what you class as meet up?

You know full well what the question meant.

So, that's a 'yes' then.

Its a, no idea what he means by meet up.

No. Don't lie. It's avoidance of the obvious, for the obvious reason that you know well (and now, so do we) that you've disregarded the guidance over Christmas. If it wasn't as I've just stated it, you'd quite happily say you adhered to the guidance.

[beninho]

Depends what you class as meet up?

You know full well what the question meant.

So, that's a 'yes' then.

Its a, no idea what he means by meet up.

No. Don't lie. It's avoidance of the obvious, for the obvious reason that you know well (and now, so do we) that you've disregarded the guidance over Christmas. If it wasn't as I've just stated it, you'd quite happily say you adhered to the guidance.

Not a lie, if you get asked a vague question. You try and clarify, thats what I did. Did I breach any guidance. Honestly no idea. Do I particularly care, not really.

[Soul Requiem]

You care when there's a political point to be made from it though?

[beninho]

1300 plus today. This must be linked to the Christmas is fine knock yourselves out guys message that was played for a while.

Must be? Not so sure. Maybe, but it was only the one day in the end. Think more likely to do w/ increasing non-adherence in general and new variant.

Probably comes down to how much faith you have that people didn't spend Christmas together.  People were told Christmas was fine on a number of days building up. The fact they were then told Christmas isn't fine, alas, wouldn't negate what they'd been told all along. People got together because the govt said they could.  I know soneobe who's family got together, and I now know soneone covid positive .

This new varient was known about when they were still letting people think Christmas would be fine. Everyone knows the Christmas plan was an attempt to garner support and was never a good idea. Mixed messages again.

Too many people are deliberately playing ignorant - if they got together for more than one day, in contravention of even the late change, I have no sympathy and it's no excuse. It really isn't.

Mixed message my arse. The basics haven't changed from day 1 - don't make journeys that aren't necessary, don't socialise for the sake of it, wash hands, keep your distance etc etc. There's also zero excuse for saying that one doesn't know what the 'message' is on any one day - all the info is on the UKG websites and a simple Google search will get you there if you don't know. There's no excuse for not checking that advice before simply doing something and then saying "Oh, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.".

You aren't stupid enough to think its changed the same since day 1? The incentives to go out to resteraunts, the clips telling people to get back into the office and get on the trains. Alas my job being linked to Boris even advised a lot of people to go into the office.

Jesus H Christ. Read! The basics haven't changed - what is it about that, which you don't appreciate? Even the 'eat out to help out' - did anyone have to go out? No. I don't recall anyone saying "get on the trains". Take some personal responsibility, just for once.

You and I won't agree on this; it's plain. Everything is the Government's fault in your view. Let's leave it at that.

I dont think I've said everything is the governments fault though. People are idiots, no denying that.

[beninho]

You care when there's a political point to be made from it though?

That may be what you think.

[Soul Requiem]

You care when there's a political point to be made from it though?

That may be what you think.

It's reality, you'll try and weasel out of that with some childish comments.

[beninho]

No, you think I care about making a point. I do it, but do I actually care?

[Soul Requiem]

Yes you do hence your constant comments on the subject but when your own hypocrisy is highlighted you revert to this 'I don't care' rubbish.

[beninho]

I'll tell you one thing I care about is a stonking 4-1 win for the chairboys. Great result.

[beninho]

Yes you do hence your constant comments on the subject but when your own hypocrisy is highlighted you revert to this 'I don't care' rubbish.

Hypocrisy?

[navyblueshorts]

Depends what you class as meet up?

You know full well what the question meant.

So, that's a 'yes' then.

Its a, no idea what he means by meet up.

No. Don't lie. It's avoidance of the obvious, for the obvious reason that you know well (and now, so do we) that you've disregarded the guidance over Christmas. If it wasn't as I've just stated it, you'd quite happily say you adhered to the guidance.

Not a lie, if you get asked a vague question. You try and clarify, thats what I did. Did I breach any guidance. Honestly no idea. Do I particularly care, not really.

Quite. Not surprised.

[TM2K]

My sister is a journalist and she told me that the overnight change in tiers/restrictions on the weekend immediately before Christmas wasn’t the big shock and surprising revelation that warranted immediate action to the government as they led us to believe...apparently they’d known about the new mutated Covid the Friday before that and waited a week before acting to allow the MPs to return to their constituencies in time for Christmas. Heard Hancock on the radio being questioned about when he first heard of this new, more aggressive strain and he maintained it was within the last 48 hours almost in a boastful manner as if he was proud of how efficient and decisive they were in acting so quickly.
The host then played him a clip of him talking the Friday before about a new variant being discovered!!
The vast majority haven’t an ounce shame between them with the transparent, blatant lies they feed the public or how inept and incompetent they’ve been on a consistent basis...but he’s as bad as anyone.

[beninho]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-visa-free-work-musicians-eu-brexit-b1784600.html

Imagine being a brexit voter, knowing it would have an impact on the music industry.

[beninho]

I have a hell of a lot more loathing for this government over brexit then I do over covid.

[TM2K]

Agree that people are largely to blame, been massively irresponsible and probably the biggest cause of this latest wave with some pretty reckless and selfish behaviour that’s become much more frequent every week and in disturbingly large numbers...suspect there’ll be several reasons that’ve contributed to so many getting sloppy and lackadaisical about sticking to the rules such as complacency creeping in after so long or the double standards those in positions of power have shown that flaunt the rules. Plus the imbeciles out there who’d be influenced by all the two Bob, Z-list celebrity hypocrites in The Sun every day!!

[TM2K]

I have a hell of a lot more loathing for this government over brexit then I do over covid.

They’re capable of embarrassing themselves at virtually anything so at least they’ve mastered the art consistency

I don’t think it’d be particularly fair, so try to not, be too harsh on judging the handling of something like we’ve seen the last year as it’s completely unprecedented and constantly evolving from one week to the next and the science improves our understanding of things....anybody could forgive there being hiccups along the way you’d hope, but what’s inexcusable to me is the endless lying deceitful way they go about everything in an attempt to cover their own backsides

[TM2K]

The only person who’s seemed like they could instil any level of confidence in you is Rishi. Not a great surprise given he previously worked in the private sector

[navyblueshorts]

The only person who’s seemed like they could instil any level of confidence in you is Rishi. Not a great surprise given he previously worked in the private sector

Shame. You were doing so well before this.
The private sector are such exemplars of good behaviour aren't they? Especially the finance sector in which Sunak works. Good grief.

One of the cleverest(?) things the right/private sector have ever done is embed the lie that: private = good, public = bad. Utter nonsense, but the sheeple just lap it up.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/grantshapps/status/1334543848333332482?s=19 this one hasn't aged well.

And Rishi Sunak, a hard brexiteer. I dont think he's come out smelling any better then the rest. Wasn't it leaked he was against stricter restrictions. And wasn't he pushing to bring any support down, and not helped millions of self employed or contractors?

[Soul Requiem]

What would you have done as Chancellor then Ben?

[TM2K]

The only person who’s seemed like they could instil any level of confidence in you is Rishi. Not a great surprise given he previously worked in the private sector

Shame. You were doing so well before this.
The private sector are such exemplars of good behaviour aren't they? Especially the finance sector in which Sunak works. Good grief.

One of the cleverest(?) things the right/private sector have ever done is embed the lie that: private = good, public = bad. Utter nonsense, but the sheeple just lap it up.

Not meant as an endorsement of the exemplary conduct of the private sector, nor the morals and ethics of those that work in it...let alone in somewhere as corrupt and morally bankrupt as the murky world of investment banking at the likes of Goldman Sachs!!
It was more his ability to perform under significant pressure unlike the lifelong politicians who’ve spent their whole lives cocooned from the real world and are still an abject failure who’re a total embarrassment. Even when they’re hoofed for making a mess of things all that happens is they’re shifted to another cushy number to do it all again.

[beninho]

What would you have done as Chancellor then Ben?

Probably not have ended applications to the furlough scheme and tried to replace it with a lower scheme. Also Probably woukd have taken on board the issues with the contractors. I was pleased with the increase in LHA rates, but think I would also have removed the benefit cap or increased it, as it then doesn't work with the increase in lha, and just makes more areas unaffordable for the people impacted in a pandemic, especially rough sleepers, who councils are housing more than before.

[beninho]

Also, wouldn't have gotten into a pi$$in contest with Manchester.

[Soul Requiem]

Also, wouldn't have gotten into a pi$$in contest with Manchester.

You actually mean they should have given in to the demands of a Labour mayor just because.

[beninho]

Also, wouldn't have gotten into a pi$$in contest with Manchester.

You actually mean they should have given in to the demands of a Labour mayor just because.

They made it political. They offered less because it was Burnham. They then offered more anyway. So why get in the contest anyway.

[Soul Requiem]

Burnham made it political and his actions no doubt cost many lives.

[beninho]

How many lives?

I'm going against my own advice of not getting into a pi$$in contest.

[Soul Requiem]

Who knows but his actions certainly didn't reduce deaths.

[beninho]

Though, just to clarify. You don't think the elected Labour mayor of Manchester should have stood to get the best support for his area, which had been under restrictions, longer then anywhere else in the country?

[Soul Requiem]

Not at the expense of increasing cases in his area but I'm assuming that by being Labour that makes it ok?

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