Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[beninho]

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The problem states, "If I buy two tickets with different numbers" – msinghal Jul 22 '15 at 6:40
Correct. I just wanted to clarify this explicitly, since this apparently causes the confusion in the internet the OP was writing about... – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 7:38
So let me get this right. If I have a 1 in 14 million of chance of winning the lottery, if I buy a further ticket with a different sequence of numbers to the first one for the same draw my chance of winning is slashed to 1 in 7 million? – Rickie Jul 22 '15 at 8:16
Yes, that is correct. – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 8:23

[McLaren]

Owen Jones?

[navyblueshorts]

Nobody seems to want to answer that Ben.

Hmm. I wonder. Maybe because we aren't at the end of it yet and it requires more thought and analysis than a dumb soundbite?

[navyblueshorts]

He's a mad arse, but doesn't have the same following or platform as JHB, Young, Fox. Obviously. I think, its pretty clear, that the right wingers are pushing it a lot more. Talk radio aswell, and then the newspapers, and Alison Pearson. Unfortunately lots of people listen and take these views on, as per my initial tweet quote.

Can I call them idiots?

Will it make you feel better?

[Soul Requiem]

He's a mad arse, but doesn't have the same following or platform as JHB, Young, Fox. Obviously. I think, its pretty clear, that the right wingers are pushing it a lot more. Talk radio aswell, and then the newspapers, and Alison Pearson. Unfortunately lots of people listen and take these views on, as per my initial tweet quote.

Can I call them idiots?

What does the prominence of those saying it have to do with anything? Toby Young and Julia Hartley-Brewer talking nonsense is no different to Piers Corbyn talking nonsense, you seem stuck in this social media world where it's the only measure of views, common denominator with their parentage however. You see it as a right wing problem because you want to and twitter is no metric of wider society.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-police-seek-man-after-hospital-staff-abused-by-group-trying-to-remove-coronavirus-patient-12200765

Tobe Hayden-Leigh, the man featured in the video is linked with various anti capitalist groups, are you going to suggest that people like he are taking notice of right wing journalists online?

[navyblueshorts]

So-called 'social' media; one of the 21st century's great evils.

[dynamark]

Peirs Morgan is a disgrace to broadcasting even his co presenter looks uneasy at his antics with guests.
While we are throwing big numbers about we need to remember Uk has 68 million pop and therefore we loose around 750,000 plus every year from all manner of causes car accidents,cancer,flu/pnuemonia,degenerative and smoking related diseases,diabetes.Excess deaths are the real measure of the covid impact and I think that is around 75.000 over the previous 5 year average.Hopefully the vaccine developments will deal to a great extent with covid in next few years and we may see numbers going the other way.It would be good to see after this settles an emphasis on health,weight,smoking,personal welfare,diet as a lesson from what we have gone through with the same effort and resources as the pandemic response.

[McLaren]

What does the prominence of those saying it have to do with anything?

If the BBC and other news outlets hadn't magnified Farrage about 5-10 years ago would #Brexit have happened?

[beninho]

He's a mad arse, but doesn't have the same following or platform as JHB, Young, Fox. Obviously. I think, its pretty clear, that the right wingers are pushing it a lot more. Talk radio aswell, and then the newspapers, and Alison Pearson. Unfortunately lots of people listen and take these views on, as per my initial tweet quote.

Can I call them idiots?

What does the prominence of those saying it have to do with anything? Toby Young and Julia Hartley-Brewer talking nonsense is no different to Piers Corbyn talking nonsense, you seem stuck in this social media world where it's the only measure of views, common denominator with their parentage however. You see it as a right wing problem because you want to and twitter is no metric of wider society.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-police-seek-man-after-hospital-staff-abused-by-group-trying-to-remove-coronavirus-patient-12200765

Tobe Hayden-Leigh, the man featured in the video is linked with various anti capitalist groups, are you going to suggest that people like he are taking notice of right wing journalists online?

I see it as a problem (lots of idiots around), but unfortunately the biggest, and more noticeable advocates are right wing ranters. I think that is pretty hard to disagree with. Do you not think thats the case?

[navyblueshorts]

Peirs Morgan is a disgrace to broadcasting even his co presenter looks uneasy at his antics with guests...

He should be nowhere near a career in broadcasting or media after his disgraceful fake phots re. Irag, trying to frame UK army soldiers for 'torture'. Utter scum.

[beninho]

So-called 'social' media; one of the 21st century's great evils.

Its terrible. I do enjoy it though.

[Soul Requiem]

It's very easy to disagree with, I didn't really notice Toby Jones but I did notice Piers Corbyn. Fame does not constitute prevalence among certain groups, you notice the offspring of labour members but I notice the nobody Labour members online.

[beninho]

Whats poor Toby Jones done, apart from be a damned fine actor. I honestly haven't noticed left leaning columnists in anti lockdown and down playing the whole thing. Thats not to say they haven't. Its not been raised to my attention. While, you may not have noticed, I can advise you that Hartley Brewer, Young, Fox and Pearson, and also the Daily Telegraph and I think at times the Sun, Dan Wooton and talk radio have all been pretty terrible at stoking up fears and anger about lockdown and measures in place. You have done well in staying clear of the utter bumholes.

[beninho]

I again doth my cap to you. Not only your ability to make no snap judgements on anything, but your ability to stay well clear of the crazy right wing nutters. You truly are a talented individual.

[Soul Requiem]

It's amazing what one can do when you don't set out to be offended.

[beninho]

Yep, thats true. I like not being offended. We are very similar me and you SR2. Just in slightly different bubbles.

[westisbest]

Frustrating thing watching Piers Morgan, is that he asks his guests
A question, then 3/4 words into the answer he interrupts them. I’m watching thinking, Christ let the person answer your question, then go from there.

Frustrating part for him I guess, is that some don’t answer his question(maybe not the way he wants them to answer)

[McLaren]

Can someone explain this gamestop thing to me. Hedge funds got burned trying to short gamestop because small investors boosted the share price, and for some reason that is a reason to abandon the free market and protect the hedge funds?

[beninho]

It all sounds ridiculous. But, its the power of the money men over the world and country. Look at our pensions. All generally tied up with hedge funds and investments.

[McLaren]

Surely funds get burned all the time trying to short on shares, just seems ridiculous that because it was a bunch of amateur traders that got the better of the hedge funds all these protections should be brought in.

[I'm never wrong]

What made me think it was all absurd was that one person (who was in charge of something, can't remember) said this was all about investing and it is not gambling. So selling short is not gambling?

[superflyweight]

What made me think it was all absurd was that one person (who was in charge of something, can't remember) said this was all about investing and it is not gambling. So selling short is not gambling?

Not if there is a strategic decision made by the hedge funds to do so. By flooding the market with the borrowed shares they dilute the demand for the shares and their value inevitably drops.

I've never been able to get comfortable with the fact that it's allowed at all.

[beninho]

I'm glad I've watched the Big Short. A very good film.

[superflyweight]

It is good - the book is excellent.

[dynamark]

Afternoon folks back to radio and tele which im sure many of us have seen lot more of lately.Why does the media spend a day or two going over something that has not actually occured ,For instance travel restrictions,school going back date(govt had said it would give 2 weeks notice)vaccine shortages.None of these things have occurred and yet we get even BBC inviting dopey public comment and dragging out hours of pointless debate.I cannot believe one of the ministers doesnt tell them where to stick it!
The good news is things like the on Tv education stuff and exercise/music.Im not over worried about the effect on children they will soon shake off any effect and to be blunt parents need to accept the situation for a few more weeks and care/educate their children .On Tv now 2 kids living on a farm middle of nowhere with no broadband so getting limited lessons-but they are living a great life on farm wouldnt it be fantastic .Another lass with 7 children(seven) cannot afford broadband -seven!!

[dynamark]

Am I sounding a bit like Super?

[pedro]

Can someone explain this gamestop thing to me. Hedge funds got burned trying to short gamestop because small investors boosted the share price, and for some reason that is a reason to abandon the free market and protect the hedge funds?

Thought you were always in favour of protecting people from themselves?

[pedro]

The hedge funds screwed up by shorting 130% of the shares. The piranhas found out and turned up. It’s not only ‘retail’ investors buying GameStop, now pros have joined too.
What’s even more fked is that some of the US trading apps limited the possibility to buy the share, causing the price to drop on Thursday. ‘Coincidentally’ the biggest app, Robinhood, is owned by Citadel who has a huge short position in GameStop. Can’t rule out that some suits will see jail time. (And yes, Google Play removed 100,000 negative app reviews on Thursday, Apple just didn’t allow any.) So plenty of material for conspiracy theorists.
If investors can keep calm we will see some of these hedge funds go belly up as they’ll be forced to close their positions at very high prices. Unfortunately they’ll also have to sell other assets along the way to cover their losses, which is why we are seeing some uncertainty in the overall stock market as well.
Only 8% of the short positions have been closed this week, and >100% are still shorted.
Not offering finacial advise here, but buying GameStop shares could be a safer bet than the lottery or that Rory will soon win a tournament.

[I'm never wrong]

Sea shanties are popular at the moment. Here's a golf one. https://twitter.com/LETgolf/status/1355220933930332162?s=09

[JAS]

Can someone explain this gamestop thing to me. Hedge funds got burned trying to short gamestop because small investors boosted the share price, and for some reason that is a reason to abandon the free market and protect the hedge funds?

I think it's called "free" market Capitalism...where power, wealth and opportunity are in the hards of the FEW not the many and if EVER that looks like not being the case the rules are bent to make sure the status quo prevails in perpetuity.

"free" meaning where the elite are free to exploit the many.

It's quite simple really not only is it quite simple, as a society we deem it acceptable because the evils of Socialism would would be so so much worse (say the main beneficiaries of the above system in a very persuasive way).

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated??

[beninho]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/millions-people-trapped-unsellable-properties-23425467.amp?111=&__twitter_impression=true

Its a shame that tory mps all don't care enough about the cladding issues, or the dead from Grenfell that they wouldn't put aside party politics to vote in favour of something worth voting for. Disgraceful.

[JAS]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/millions-people-trapped-unsellable-properties-23425467.amp?111=&__twitter_impression=true

Its a shame that tory mps all don't care enough about the cladding issues, or the dead from Grenfell that they wouldn't put aside party politics to vote in favour of something worth voting for. Disgraceful.

Yep, and the theme from my post above also fits again..

"Free market Capitalism" - where the few are free to exploit the many

Ain't it strange that when free market Capitalism screws up it's ALWAYS those at the bottom that have least means are the ones to pay.

Yet as a society we almost revel in that kind of societal self harm because we gleefully vote for it over and over again

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" for most the answer would appear to be no because they don't seem to have worked it out yet!!

[beninho]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-55913907?__twitter_impression=true

I'm unsure how any blame goes on the EU for brexit or the deal agreed by the government. Unfortunately people will think its tge eu fault.

Brexit will be an utter sh*tshow

[JAS]

Any of the rest of you had the Jab yet? I got mine Monday. Was told then it's likely to 10 weeks until the 2nd one.

[I'm never wrong]

I regularly with a group of 9 other seniors. I am the "boy" of the group. 8 of them have had it or going to have it within the week. Reports from them say a very efficient process.

[navyblueshorts]

Any of the rest of you had the Jab yet? I got mine Monday. Was told then it's likely to 10 weeks until the 2nd one.

Nope. Think I'll be in group 8 by the time it comes around...

[BlueCoverman]

Nope for me as well, online calculator is suggesting early April.

[beninho]

I lucked into it a few weeks back, though due to the job we have been prioritised. But as a fit, slightly overweight 40 year old I did feel bad having it before my sister who has been through cancer twice and is having chemo.

I felt rough as sh&t the day after though.

[TM2K]

Not had the jab myself but know plenty that have...including both my folks, grandfather (had both his before most people took their Christmas decorations down!) and numerous obvious candidates at the club which you’d expect to be priority cases.
Was really surprised when my old fella said they’d been to get theirs a couple of weeks back. He’s 68 this year and she’s a couple of years younger. Besides being on the chunky side, like so many I know, they’ve nothing else that puts them in the at risk category.

I’ve not really paid too much attention to be honest (fed up being lied to by the cretins in charge!) but does it differ depending on where you live as well as age?

[navyblueshorts]

Not had the jab myself but know plenty that have...including both my folks, grandfather (had both his before most people took their Christmas decorations down!) and numerous obvious candidates at the club which you’d expect to be priority cases.  
Was really surprised when my old fella said they’d been to get theirs a couple of weeks back. He’s 68 this year and she’s a couple of years younger.  Besides being on the chunky side,  like so many I know, they’ve nothing else that puts them in the at risk category.

I’ve not really paid too much attention to be honest (fed up being lied to by the cretins in charge!) but does it differ depending on where you live as well as age?

Maybe pay a bit more attention to the 'cretins'?

[navyblueshorts]

Guess Alan Shepard didn't quite stripe it after all:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/55927727

[JAS]

Guess Alan Shepard didn't quite stripe it after all:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/55927727

Pretty impressive golf ball locating though. I know people that really need NASA on speed dial!!

[McLaren]

Guess Alan Shepard didn't quite stripe it after all:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/55927727

Pretty impressive golf ball locating though. I know people that really need NASA on speed dial!!

Was it embedded?

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1357604492603252736?s=19

Can anyone make sense of cleverlys point.

[I'm never wrong]

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1357604492603252736?s=19

Can anyone make sense of cleverlys point.

Yes - because of the UK's fantastic scientific laboratories, when someone becomes infected with a new strain of the virus, it will be identified quickly, and therefore the location it came from can also be identified. We then shut travel to and from that location. The debate stops at that point. After Cleverlys response, the interviewer should have changed tack away from suggesting that we close borders to taking him to task on how long it takes for the infected person to become noticed and the strain anlaysed, and how many people they had infected.

[pedro]

Guess Alan Shepard didn't quite stripe it after all:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/55927727

Pretty impressive golf ball locating though. I know people that really need NASA on speed dial!!

Was it embedded?

How can we be sure he didn’t ground the club? Does anyone know the local rules?

[dynamark]

I think the moon is classed as a giant bunker.They put in a call for John Paramor but apparently all the buggies were in use at the time.Please lets not have a pop at the govt over vaccination it looks like a very good effort from all concerned and the order of play has been carefully put together to minimise death and serious illness.I havent had a jab yet just a text from health centre to say 'dont call us'
I think i am correct in saying that flu has virtually gone missing this year .Maybe a bit of caution and the interuption in infection will help that again in the coming winters ?

[JAS]

I think the moon is classed as a giant bunker.They put in a call for John Paramor but apparently all the buggies were in use at the time.Please lets not have a pop at the govt over vaccination it looks like a very good effort from all concerned and the order of play has been carefully put together to minimise death and serious illness.I havent had a jab yet just a text from health centre to say 'dont call us'
I think i am correct in saying that flu has virtually gone missing this year .Maybe a bit of caution and the interuption in infection will help that again  in the coming winters ?

I'm quite happy to do credit where credit is due and got to say, for all the other things they've screwed up (and there's been a few), the vaccine rollout is without doubt their finest hour in this pandemic.

It's a good point about flu going missing, social distancing, mask wearing and increased focus on hand washing has positive effects on more than just Covid transmission. Something indeed to bear in mind for future winters.

Regarding the vaccine, had an interesting point made at the weekend. I had mine last week and felt nothing really (although & flu & pneumonia jabs on the same day back in Sept floored me for 2 days). People tend to be having worse reactions to 2nd one whilst people who have had Covid are having a bit of a reaction to the first one.

[McLaren]

Who would have thought a bunch of public school boys raised in a nation lacking diversity would get this wrong?

England 6-11 Scotland: Scottish Rugby backs players who did not kneel - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55971987

[JAS]

Who would have thought a bunch of public school boys raised in a nation lacking diversity would get this wrong?

England 6-11 Scotland: Scottish Rugby backs players who did not kneel - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55971987

Or to put it a slightly different way...Players exercise freedom of choice in free democracy and their Union supports them in exercising that freedom of choice.

What would you propose as the punishment then for "your" interpretation of alleged wrongdoing?

Do I think there is still too much racism, both blatant and indirect in society today...yes I do BUT....There's no surer way of draining sympathy and respect for a cause than trying to ram it down peoples throats at every opportunity. Indeed more than that, actually trying to create additional opportunities to keep ramming it down. Even as an anti racist I'm getting heartily sick of this virtue signalling & demonisation of all those who don't "comply"!! All that is going to achieve is further division and polarisation.

[McLaren]

Jas

Why wouldn't you take the knee? What point are players making by not doing it?


Just look at football, it is about a collective message. Not individuals. In the EPL taking the knee is now part of every pre match routine. The players all kneel because it is about the whole organisation showing a collective message, not just whoever feels like they want to support it. I assume that the clubs have warned the players that they have to do it because that is the message their pay masters want them to portray.

As for the punishment. In an ideal world they take the knee or don't get picked. As it stands hopefully their reputations are damaged.


"I'm getting heartily sick of this virtue signalling & demonisation of all those who don't "comply""

If you say you are someone who is against racism I don't understand this. Why would you have an issue with those people who continue to perpetuate racism being demonised?

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