Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[beninho]

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The problem states, "If I buy two tickets with different numbers" – msinghal Jul 22 '15 at 6:40
Correct. I just wanted to clarify this explicitly, since this apparently causes the confusion in the internet the OP was writing about... – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 7:38
So let me get this right. If I have a 1 in 14 million of chance of winning the lottery, if I buy a further ticket with a different sequence of numbers to the first one for the same draw my chance of winning is slashed to 1 in 7 million? – Rickie Jul 22 '15 at 8:16
Yes, that is correct. – Bernhard Jul 22 '15 at 8:23

[navyblueshorts]

I can't see how that is leading the news, I also can't get my head round the issues people have with them.

Want to drop out of public life.....yet appear on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Double standards.

Yeah, and of course, people are only interested in them because they've achieved so much in their lives off their own bats. Oh....

[beninho]

A giant roundabout under the Isle of man.....

[JAS]

I can't see how that is leading the news, I also can't get my head round the issues people have with them.

Want to drop out of public life.....yet appear on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Double standards.

Yeah, and of course, people are only interested in them because they've achieved so much in their lives off their own bats. Oh....

So without wishing any horror event but in a huge "what if" kind of scenario. If Charles, William and the kids all got taken for a ride in Prince Phillip's Range Rover (unlikely now - but just go with the scenario) and the worst happened...Do they go back to Harry and say "look, forget what was said, we need to get you fitted for a big spangly hat" Or do they abandon that line and go to Charles's younger brother Andrew who's obviously been much less troublesome in terms of awkward press?? Just asking for a friend :-p

[McLaren]

Jas

I think Anne would be ahead of Andrew.

[Soul Requiem]

Jas

I think Anne would be ahead of Andrew.

The line of succession up until Charlotte still prioritises males over females.

[navyblueshorts]

I can't see how that is leading the news, I also can't get my head round the issues people have with them.

Want to drop out of public life.....yet appear on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Double standards.

Yeah, and of course, people are only interested in them because they've achieved so much in their lives off their own bats. Oh....

So without wishing any horror event but in a huge "what if" kind of scenario. If Charles, William and the kids all got taken for a ride in Prince Phillip's Range Rover (unlikely now - but just go with the scenario) and the worst happened...Do they go back to Harry and say "look, forget what was said, we need to get you fitted for a big spangly hat" Or do they abandon that line and go to Charles's younger brother Andrew who's obviously been much less troublesome in terms of awkward press??  Just asking for a friend :-p

Guess so, although Andrew should be disbarred, and not just for the alleged issue re. grooming etc. I think if that sort of scenario ever came to pass, it would be a good point to evaluate if want to retain a monarchy whose head acts as our Head of State. Personally, I can see some value in an unelected HoS, because God-knows I don't want to see any more ****ing elections of people who're frankly useless. That said, presumably a HoS for the UK would just have to look decent, smile and wave, host good meals, be discrete and have a decent line in chat...

[McLaren]

Jas

I think Anne would be ahead of Andrew.

The line of succession up until Charlotte still prioritises males over females.

That rule would change pretty quickly if the prospect of Andrew taking over surfaced.

[Duty281]

That said, presumably a HoS for the UK would just have to look decent, smile and wave, host good meals, be discrete and have a decent line in chat...

Narrows it down nicely to either Nigella Lawson or Delia Smith.

[navyblueshorts]

That said, presumably a HoS for the UK would just have to look decent, smile and wave, host good meals, be discrete and have a decent line in chat...

Narrows it down nicely to either Nigella Lawson or Delia Smith.

Maybe, although I'm not sure that Delia's drunken "C'mon! Where are ya?" quite cuts the mustard...

[McLaren]

I am not sure if this is a common position on the Royal family. I would prefer they weren't there and would vote to get rid of them given the opportunity but if we are forced to have them I think we should do it properly.

If forced to have them I want them properly funded, no easyjet style royal family, and don't want to hear people whining about the privileges they get.

[JAS]

Wouldn't say I'm ardent Royalist but neither am I a rabid republican so I'm a bit agnostic on whether we should have them or not.
I would say this on the Harry thing though, I honestly think he's scarred by what happened to his mum and very much sees the press as culpable, at least indirectly and that's what's behind the reactionary behaviour. On the other side, I also honestly think despite what they might say The Royals, Royal watchers and Empire clinging Royal supporters deep down really really struggle with Meghan's ethnicity hence all the underhand digs, negative press, general bitching, spin etc etc.

[beninho]

On the court hearing last week this is interesting. https://davidallengreen.com/2021/02/the-real-significance-of-the-governments-defeat-over-transparency-in-public-procurement-yes-the-claimants-overstated-their-case-but-reaction-of-the-government-was-extraordinary/

Really can't understand the actions of the government on this at all. Seems undefensible. Though I like the way they think regulations don't count while legislating that people can't walk and have a coffee together.

[beninho]

Golfers on social media seem very vociferous about not being able to play golf in winter. Iots with arguments, but it did sort of make sense. If the point of lockdown was keeping people in should people be driving to get to play golf. Maybe if they could walk to the course.

[George1507]

Golfers on social media seem very vociferous about not being able to play golf in winter.  Iots with arguments, but it did sort of make sense. If the point of lockdown was keeping people in should people be driving to get to play golf. Maybe if they could walk to the course.

A lot of people seem to compare a round of golf with going to the supermarket. It's clear that, in terms of contracting Covid, a supermarket is more dangerous than a golf course. But we do need to eat, so the logic stops there. I know lots of people in England who are really punches out of shape that they can't play golf today. But probably half the courses would be closed anyway because of waterlogging. The government has made plenty of mistakes with regard to this pandemic, but they have become something of a punching bag for golfers.

Whether by luck or design, lots of English golfers will be able to trek to the course just as things start to dry out and the temperature goes up a bit. Perhaps not such a bad result in the end.

[I'm never wrong]

From a purely selfish golf-orientated point of view, I find it hard to reconcile the fact that two people can exercise and have a cup of tea together, but golfers playing in a two ball can't. Whenever I play with my golf group, we are never closer than two metres. More like 50 as we go up our own side of the fairway/rough.

[JAS]

Of course if we had the long promised "world class" track and trace system we would by now probably have some decent stats on the different activities and the susceptibility of people to pick up infections at those activities.

I think George is right though, I don't think we should be moaning too much about not being allowed to play in quagmires. Yes I'm missing a team Open at Saunton Mid-March. Also for the 36 hole Easter Open I'll have to drive there & back same day rather than go down a couple of days before and have practice rounds...C'est La Vie, its not the end of the world.

After this is all over I do think some things should stick, the prime one being free and freely available hand sanitiser at supermarket doors. Also once the flu season (might be called the covid & Flu season moving forward) starts, mask wearing inside should also become mandated. I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that this years flu numbers are a historic low.

[navyblueshorts]

Golfers on social media seem very vociferous about not being able to play golf in winter.  Iots with arguments, but it did sort of make sense. If the point of lockdown was keeping people in should people be driving to get to play golf. Maybe if they could walk to the course.

A lot of people seem to compare a round of golf with going to the supermarket. It's clear that, in terms of contracting Covid, a supermarket is more dangerous than a golf course. But we do need to eat, so the logic stops there. I know lots of people in England who are really punches out of shape that they can't play golf today. But probably half the courses would be closed anyway because of waterlogging. The government has made plenty of mistakes with regard to this pandemic, but they have become something of a punching bag for golfers.

Whether by luck or design, lots of English golfers will be able to trek to the course just as things start to dry out and the temperature goes up a bit. Perhaps not such a bad result in the end.

Maybe so but a) what a laughable bunch of self-important whingers and b) I seriously doubt UKG gives a 4X about a relatively wealthy, male- and white-biased sub-group of the UK population.

Golf can in no way be described as 'necessary' during a pandemic. What so many of these self-important pillocks don't get or consider are issues re. group behaviours and perceptions of what others are allowed to do and how that influences the behaviour of others. No, policies aren't perfect, but think golfers just have to put up and shut up like most of the rest of the UK population.

[navyblueshorts]

...Also once the flu season (might be called the covid & Flu season moving forward) starts, mask wearing inside should also become mandated. I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that this years flu numbers are a historic low.

They are I think, but masks only one (smallish?) part I would guess. More to do w/ social distancing, lockdowns and increased sanitary behaviour i.e. hand washing etc.

[McLaren]

I can understand the frustration. It was quite galling last March through May when the course was closed but you saw hundreds of people walking all over it in a more covid risky manner than just playing golf on it would have been.

Although as Jas points out, given our abismal track and trace system I have no idea how there is any data on where and when people catch covid.

[westisbest]

From a purely selfish golf-orientated point of view, I find it hard to reconcile the fact that two people can exercise and have a cup of tea together, but golfers playing in a two ball can't. Whenever I play with my golf group, we are never closer than two metres. More like 50 as we go up our own side of the fairway/rough.

It does seem crazy.
Getting your exercise in to.

[beninho]

My understanding is/was allowed to walk outside with one other person not from your household or exercise, which starts and ends at your house. While it's clear people haven't followed the rules, I doubt most people would walk to and from the golf course.

[dynamark]

I just went to get food shop and noticed the florist looked open,coffee shop serving 'takeaway'I mean who really badly needs a coffee in a paper cup?,couple having a kiss and cuddle outside shop.Lot of folk chatting probably not strictly in the rules.Garden centre is open, M and S selling clothes along with the food hall.If you have a dog apparently no rules apply.Estate agents open.Its hardly a tignt lock down but if folk are being careful as appears then no real impact.Two guys should be able to play golf without question.
Im pretty sure Flu has virtually gone missing this year so maybe some continued distance/care will be a long term good thing.Had my first jab last week and felt cack for 2 days after

[dynamark]

Forgot one point ultra stupid radio presos today asking 'when can you hug your mum'.Lets face it you can if you wish to its not like the hug police are going to jump out of a cupboard and give you a fixed penalty is it.

[George1507]

From a purely selfish golf-orientated point of view, I find it hard to reconcile the fact that two people can exercise and have a cup of tea together, but golfers playing in a two ball can't. Whenever I play with my golf group, we are never closer than two metres. More like 50 as we go up our own side of the fairway/rough.

The actual playing of golf doesn't pose much risk, but if people in England were allowed to play golf today,then golfers would be travelling around to get to the golf course, and if the course was closed for any reason, then it would be tempting to go to another course to play. So pretty soon you have people travelling around when the government intends everyone to stay home.

[beninho]

When I'm in the office I like a coffee from a shop. At home I got a nespresso for Christmas which is pretty good.

[Soul Requiem]

When I'm in the office I like a coffee from a shop. At home I got a nespresso for Christmas which is pretty good.

I tend to grab a coffee on my way into the office too, it's as much of a treat as is possible at the moment.

[McLaren]

Also you get way better coffee than you can make at home if you go to a good coffee shop.

[JAS]

Also you get way better coffee than you can make at home if you go to a good coffee shop.

Good choice of beans, a grinder and an aero press.... home wins every time over Luxemburg/Ireland domiciled for Tax purposes big coffee multinationals ;-)

[McLaren]

Jas

Yeh aeropress is good but some of the "hipster" coffee shops produce outstanding coffee these days. Plus any coffee that requires foam is always better out than at home.

Anyone drinking coffee out of the likes of costa should be shot.

[I'm never wrong]

Anyone drinking coffee out of the likes of costa should be shot.

Mac - think of the effect on the R number.

[JAS]

P45 for Lennon, been coming for a while to be fair. Final confirmation really that the balance of power has shifted back to the Govan side of Glasgow...for now. Have they really been that bad or has Rangers steady rise just made it look worse than it is?

[Soul Requiem]

P45 for Lennon, been coming for a while to be fair. Final confirmation really that the balance of power has shifted back to the Govan side of Glasgow...for now. Have they really been that bad or has Rangers steady rise just made it look worse than it is?

A bit of both; Rangers have improved out of sight this year and with the pressure on Celtic have crumbled. One doesn't happen without the other.

[JAS]

P45 for Lennon, been coming for a while to be fair. Final confirmation really that the balance of power has shifted back to the Govan side of Glasgow...for now. Have they really been that bad or has Rangers steady rise just made it look worse than it is?

A bit of both; Rangers have improved out of sight this year and with the pressure on Celtic have crumbled. One doesn't happen without the other.

Indeed, the extent of Rangers improvement this year has surprised even me, not only in the SPL goldfish bowl but in Europe as well. The foundations have been laid in the previous 2 seasons and now this season they are properly bearing fruit. That helps to create the impression that Celtic have been asleep at the wheel, they should have seen it coming. Since 2012 they've been able to coast along mopping up most domestic silverware without needing to get out of 2nd gear, now as the first proper challenge gets into full swing they've melted. The challenge for them now is can they fix it in time to realistically challenge next season or do they accept they they now have to take some time to rebuild with a completely new regime. All of a sudden it's harder, the boot's going to be on the other foot, Rangers will be getting the Champions League money (much bigger deal in the SPL than EPL as CL money is a multiple of league income in Scotland whereas in the EPL its just a nice proportionate supplement to league income).

[dynamark]

Coffee is an odd one ,I stopped many years ago.The little shop in the village always has a queue outside even sunday morning in a pandemic .Is it an addiction

[pedro]

Coffee  is an odd one ,I stopped many years ago.The little shop in the village always has a queue outside even sunday morning in a pandemic .Is it an addiction

All hipsters lined up, flashing their individuality.

[dynamark]

True pedro they do have a certain persona.I havent found a coffee yet that tastes as good as a gin and tonic with ice and lemon

[McLaren]

I thought this was a good take on the idea of cancel culture.

Conservatives, The Cancel Culture is Just Adult Accountability


Actor Gina Carano was fired from the Lucasfilm-produced series The Mandalorian, broadcast on Disney+, after months of fan pressure in the wake of Carano’s steady social media stream of anti-mask, anti-Transgender, anti-Semitic, election fraud conspiracy rhetoric.

It wasn’t the toxic content of the tweets alone that generated the building backlash resulting in her termination, but the defiance she displayed in response to honest expressions of pain from thousands of vulnerable fans injured by her, as one of the faces of a cherished franchise that has become a place of solace for them in a world that tends to do them damage.

In the immediate aftermath of Carano’s firing, the predictable histrionics and expected pearl-clutching came from supposedly outraged Conservatives in the media and online, once again bemoaning that most insidious and prevalent of lurking evils: the Cancel Culture.

And in a moment of Olympic-level irony, the actor’s supporters rushed to condemn her cancelling—by calling for an immediate boycott of Disney+: a cancelling of the cancellors.

TCC has presently become the catch-all from the Right, anytime a politician, celebrity, or media member is terminated, penalized, or otherwise adversely affected by something they’ve said, written, or posted. It illustrates the moral tone-deafness they’re afflicted with and the lasting symptoms of their recent political alignments.

Over the past five years, as they fully embraced a so-called “straight shooter” who “tells it like it is” and who “doesn’t bow to political correctness,” a good number of Americans have increasingly emulated the man on social media, at their jobs, and in grocery store checkout lines—and expected (much like their hero) to utter any expletive-laden, conspiratorial, discriminatory garbage and never face ill-effects from it, and to in fact be rewarded for it.

Whether they can admit it or not, they’re now coming to experience (just as he as) that free speech comes with a heavy cost: the response of others to that speech.

The Cancel Culture is just adult accountability.

The truth is, people with power and influence facing tangible consequences for the dangerous filth they generate, isn’t part of some Left-wing conspiracy—but a collective expression of humanity that will no longer tolerate the bullies from using their free and massive platforms to inflict injury on already injured people.
Maybe people like Gina Carano need to understand that the position of rare privilege afforded those fortunate enough to be where she is, isn’t something that can be wielded with recklessness and arrogance, but one that requires a modicum of humility, a desire to learn about other’s experiences, and a respect for the disparate community who will see her as someone whose voice carries weight—whether she deserves that or not.

The Cancel Culture isn’t (as Conservatives might claim) an unreasonable mob mentality of political correctness demanding that she soften her convictions or alter her politics—but the peer pressure of a global community asking her to be a decent human being: to not weaponize her fame to marginalize Jewish or Transgender people, to exacerbate a deadly pandemic without expecting consequences, or to intentionally provoke vulnerable communities.

Having standards of decency for people, whether they’re important characters of beloved franchises, revered members of Congress, American presidents, or for the person in the cubicle next to you, isn’t the problem.
It’s that these standards have become an altar of their own design for cruel and hateful martyrs to die on; that these standards are weaponized once more to make the bullies into the victim on their way out.

I hope the Gina Caranos of the world are paying attention.
I hope her experience becomes more commonplace.

I hope we as a society have finally reached the saturation point of our tolerance for human beings who have become so used to unchecked ugliness that they feel consequences will never come; that we have finally grown collectively tired of costly bigotry disguised as free expression.

It’s not the Cancel Culture that’s doing this, it’s our shared humanity showing itself, and that is a beautiful revelation.

It isn’t an out-of-control “woke mob” taking down innocent people—it’s a reckoning with decency.

If it’s anything, it’s the Consequence Culture.

Welcome to adult accountability, Gina Carano.

May you not be the last to experience it.

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https://johnpavlovitz.com/2021/02/11/the-cancel-culture-is-just-adult-accountability/

[Soul Requiem]

What a load of crap.

[navyblueshorts]

I thought this was a good take on the idea of cancel culture.

Conservatives, The Cancel Culture is Just Adult Accountability

Blah, blah, whatever....

Yep. It's a fair article in the context of an employer that has a reputation to keep an eye out for. There might be an argument re. someone expressing opinions 'as themselves' (i.e. in a private capacity) vs. those that could be construed as potentially representing the employer, but it's grey and not worth arguing about.

This is not the same as the recent discussion re. speakers at Universities.

[McLaren]

Navy

I think the general points could easily be extended to any of these so called cancelling cases. It is really just a very well put description of the idea that free speech does not come with a freedom from consequences for what you have said.

[JAS]

What a load of crap.

Whilst I found it a bit of a tiresome read, there are nuggets of truth in it so I didn't see it as a "load of crap"

I do also get a bit tired of the assertion that those on the left own this and they are the only ones capable of decency....they're not. There are decent people on the left and on the right, just as there are nasty b@%T@rd5 on the left & right. It is not and should not be a left right sided debate (in that way just like Brexit)

[JAS]

Meanwhile...slightly disappointed that Leicester melted last night. Had they come through we could have been looking at Brenda vs Stevie G...the sequel!!

[Soul Requiem]

What a load of crap.

Whilst I found it a bit of a tiresome read, there are nuggets of truth in it so I didn't see it as a "load of crap"

I do also get a bit tired of the assertion that those on the left own this and they are the only ones capable of decency....they're not. There are decent people on the left and on the right, just as there are nasty b@%T@rd5 on the left & right. It is not and should not be a left right sided debate (in that way just like Brexit)

It's just the usual crap that gets churned out to appease a select part of society. That select part of society seem under the impression that their view of things is the only way and anyone that falls outside of it is subjected to a barrage of abuse, the irony in that.

[beninho]

Gina Carano wasn't sacked though. She wasn't employed and wasn't under contract, thats my understanding. The cancel Disney stuff that went on was from people who supported here. Cancel culture isn't left or right wing, its just a reaction.

If you do or say something, don't be surprised if some people don't like it. It's just part of life.

[beninho]

Getting into twitter debates who argue that people shouldn't have the vaccine as uts not 100% safe, but also that we shouldn't if locked down because people live with risks everyday and nothing is 100% safe.

[Soul Requiem]

That's what you get for going on twitter, why anyone would see it as entertaining or enjoyable is unfathomable to me.

[beninho]

Did the school pta online zoom quiz yesterday and won. It was the most exhilarating thing that's happened in about a year. My heart rate went through the roof. I'm very competitive.

[beninho]

Increasing corporation tax will obviously have a knock on impact for small businesses trying to rebuild. I'm unsure if I'm the only person thinking this. I have no issues increasing it, just not at this present time.

[Duty281]

It's interesting that it seems to be the Tories who might raise corporation tax (19% up to 25%), and Labour might set about opposing such a raise, when it's normally the opposite. The overall yield brought in from increasing corporation tax will probably be less, also, than if corporation tax was kept at the same level.

But we shouldn't expect anything less from the Tories who have consistently raised taxes over the last 10 years, despite often pledging to do the opposite.

[beninho]

Just before next election tory will pledge to reduce corporation tax. Tge party of business and all that. Peopke will think great.

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