Glasgow and Edinburgh Ongoing Banter Thread 26

[Hazel Sapling]

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A continuation on previous threads discussing the past, the present and the future of Scottish rugby. A dose a day, keeps optimism away

Halfway through a Covid season and not far from the Rainbow cups, both teams are on the precipice of missing out on the top tier in Europe next year. The Rainbow Cup is a well thought out idea of including sides from South Africa, the home to a new Covid variant that vaccines may not work on, with international travel involving several regions of Europe.

Glasgow Squad

LH: Kebble, Bhatti, Lambert
Hooker: F Brown, Turner, Stewart, Matthews,
TH: Z Fagerson, Berghan, Pieretto, McCallum, McQuillan
Locks: Cummings, R Gray, Harley, McDonald, Bain, Bean
Back Row: Wilson, Gordon, M Fagerson, Darge, Dempsey, Miller, G Brown

SH: Price, G Horne, Dobie, Kennedy
FH: Weir, Miotti, P Horne, Thompson
Centres: S Johnson, McDowall, Tuipulotu, Grigg, Fergusson
Back Three: McLean, Forbes, McKay, Cancelliere, Tagive, Steyn, O Smith


Edinburgh Squad

LH: Schoeman, Venter, Grahamslaw
Hooker: McInally, Cherry, McBurney, Harrison
TH: Nel, De Bruin, Atalifo, Williams
Locks: Gilchrist, Toolis, Young, Hodgson, Sykes, Phillips
Back Row: Mata, Ritchie, Watson, Bradbury, Crosbie, Haining, Boyle, Kunavula, Muncaster

SH: Pyrgos, Vellacott, Shiel
FH: VDW, Chamberlain, Savala
Centres: Lang, Taylor, Bennett, Dean, Johnstone, Venter, Currie, Hutchison
Back Three: Graham, Kinghorn, Hoyland, Blain, Bofelli, Moyano, Immelman, Owsley


Previous Thread
https://www.606v2.com/t69760-the-glasgow-and-edinburgh-general-chat-discussions-are-limited-to-6-people-before-10pm-to-prevent-the-spread-of-jimboish
https://www.606v2.com/t69555-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-24-covid-funtimes?highlight=banter
https://www.606v2.com/t69038-glasgow-and-edinburgh-banter-thread-no-23-new-season-new-thread?highlight=banter

[funnyExiledScot]

Interesting. You may well be right. My sense is that Sutherland was very much third choice and a close call with Healy, but if he was Gatland's second pick then I personally agree. The scrum will be huge, and I just don't trust Mako against the Boks in that department.

What's also interesting is that Warburton reported that Genge wasn't even on the long list. I was surprised by that.

[Anglobraveheart]

FES, if Farrell is a leader, he certainly didn't show it in the last 6N.
When plan A failed, he led them forwards with Plan A.
High tackle, cheap shot, furrowed eyebrow puzzled look and curt post match interview about how it needs to be better. And repeat.  
If he's there for leadership, I hope it's nothing more complicated than Plan A.

[funnyExiledScot]

He certainly had a poor 6 Nations, but I think the inability to change tactics was more down to his poor form and Jones, rather than his leadership. Martin Johnson was a fine leader, but hardly a man to change the team's tactics on the hoof (see 2000 Calcutta Cup as Exhibit A).

I'm no huge Farrell fan, but he'll certainly be a leader within that group.

[Anglobraveheart]

I hope you are right FES. (I just can't see it myself) Indon't think his poor recent form or intermittent play in England's second tier are a good cocktail for Lions quality.
If I was any of the other 6N centres that were in contention and missed out, I'd be pretty pee'd off that a player with poor recent form playing in the Championship had been picked ahead of me for the privilege of a Lion's place.
I hope he isn't a liability for us.

[jimbopip]

All this Scottish Lions +29 Others is all very well but there is a game tonight

Annual Slaughter Of The Effiminates

The Rugby Club

1. Oli Kebble (57)
2. Fraser Brown (106)
3. Zander Fagerson (99)
4. Rob Harley (248)
5. Scott Cummings (75)
6. Fotu Lokotui (11)
7. Thomas Gordon (34)
8. Ryan Wilson (C) (188)
9. Ali Price (95)
10. Ross Thompson (10)
11. Kyle Steyn (27)
12. Stafford McDowall (24)
13. Nick Grigg (87)
14. Ratu Tagive (22)
15. Cole Forbes (3)
16. George Turner (58)
17. Tom Lambert (1)
18. Enrique Pieretto (16)
19. Richie Gray (59)
20. Kiran McDonald (33)
21. George Horne (63)
22. Pete Horne (180)
23. Niko Matawalu (136)

Kath Kidson Appreciation Society

Edinburgh
15. Damien Hoyland (83)
14. Eroni Sau (23)
13. Mark Bennett (53)
12. George Taylor (34)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (65)
10. Nathan Chamberlain (8)
9. Henry Pyrgos (49)
1. Pierre Schoeman CO-CAPTAIN (61)
2. David Cherry (34)
3. WP Nel (153)
4. Jamie Hodgson (20)
5. Grant Gilchrist CO-CAPTAIN (158)
6. Jamie Ritchie (74)
7. Luke Crosbie (55)
8. Viliame Mata (87)
Substitutes:
16. Stuart McInally (151)
17. Boan Venter (5)
18.Lee-Roy Atalifo (9)
19. Marshall Sykes (4)
20. Mesu Kunavula (9)
21. Charlie Shiel (33)
22. Charlie Savala (1)
23. James Johnstone (62)

Well, form counts for nothing here; which is just as well as neither have any to speak of. Glasgow stank like tigertattie's old socks against Benetton. The Luvvies were unconvincing against whoever they played. At least they're consistent.

The Lord Stafford is back
Forbes continues at 15.
Ratu gets another chance to show he should be there. You have to wonder how many starts he'll get, everyone who coaches him really rates him but he seems unable to string a daisy chain never mind a run of games.
Still, I expect a reaction after the 80 minute car crash that was last time out. I hope the pack beat their opposite numbers like a Lambeg drum in July.

As for the Luvvies I see their Lions (apart from the winger excused defensive duties) are hiding.

[Hazel Sapling]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/57023040

Jake Kerr finds a short term contract at Bristol.

[funnyExiledScot]

I thought Cummings was injured? Evens up the pack a bit.

Looking forward to the game tonight. Lots of young Scots on show. Edinburgh will win, obviously, but probably won't pull away out of sight until the 4th quarter.

[jimbopip]

Ah Festering One as ever deluded as a socialist in Hartlepool.
The only certainty tonight is that Batman and his capeless crusader will be frothing at the mouth for a good old fashioned square go.
The rugby club by two falls and a submission.

[BigGee]

Glasgow defence seems to have turned up this week!

[BigGee]

That was some line from Cole Forbes, he had the clock of invisibility on and was going at full pelt

10-0 Glasgow

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Fraser Brown is really thick as mince

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Lovely try for Cherry, that’ll do nicely

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Hell of a kick from the touch line from Chamberlain too, 10-7

[BigGee]

Cherry gets one back for Edinburgh, he is a hooker that scores a lot of tries

Great conversion from the touchline by Chamberlain as well

10-7 Glasgow

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Blimey try straight back from Glasgow. Tasty game this!

[BigGee]

Glasgow winning the breakdown battle and score off it

Lokotui has been a decent player for us this year and I would be happy to see him stay

17-7 Glasgow

[BigGee]

Its been a cracking game so far, no one is holding back

[BigGee]

Rob Harley been living on the edge and finally gets a YC

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

That was the most obvious change of bind you’ll see, totally daft yellow from Harley.

Another Edinburgh try, what a game

[jimbopip]

I think the Luvvies are playing into Glasgow's hands. The one out crash ball is what you want when you have spent a fortnight waiting to show that you are up for a bit of physical rugby.

[BigGee]

Edinburgh take advantage and score from a maul

17-14 Glasgow

[BigGee]

That was a high tackle, Glasgow should get this review

[BigGee]

Bennett might be in trouble here

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Great, now we have to suffer a Wimbledon moment from this ludicrous new law to take all the momentum out the game. Waste of time

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

[BigGee]

RC for Mark Bennett, unlucky and not malicious but clearly high.

This might be one where a 20 min off might be appropriate

[funnyExiledScot]

Great game. Real shame about the red. It's killed off the game a bit. Not a great challenge, but I just don't see that as a red, or rather what should constitute a red.

Glasgow seem to have a bit more hunger. As usual, Edinburgh's attacking shape and game plan have been poor.

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Elbow to the face, get off Kebble

[funnyExiledScot]

Does Kebble get a life sentence for that??

[funnyExiledScot]

To be clear. That shouldn't be a card either, in my view...

[funnyExiledScot]

Dear God!! How to ruin a good game!!

[funnyExiledScot]

The 9s both deserve an Oscar...

[BigGee]

Red card for Keeble now as well!

The captains challenges have certainly been fruitful!

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

The captains challenges are a load of old sh1t. Micky mouse nonsense

[BigGee]

Good try from Glasgow, very patient and the HT score

But we have another captains challenge!

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Good reaction from Glasgow though… then another daft challenge ffs

[BigGee]

I can't see much wrong with that

[funnyExiledScot]

If this try is disallowed I switch this off!!!

[BigGee]

Try stands and no more challenges for Edinburgh thankfully!

[funnyExiledScot]

At least that's one less challenge for us to endure in the second half!!

[BigGee]

24-14 at HT

Lots of stuff in that half but clear the players not ready to start their summer holidays just yet!

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Right can we get Glasgow’s remaining challenge out the way ASAP and get on with what’s been a great game, please. Lots of players out to prove a point tonight, a proper derby match

[BigGee]

Cummings out cold there. A shame on his first game back

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Nasty one for Cummings, really bad luck and hopefully no serious damage done

[BigGee]

Cummings gives the thumbs up - a good sign

[funnyExiledScot]

Edinburgh's attack once again looking rubbish.

[funnyExiledScot]

Steyn deserves that. He's been really good.

[BigGee]

The Steyn of Destiny gets on the scoresheet

Another great try!

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Serious comeback for Steyn to be fair, he’s been everywhere

[BigGee]

Ali Price has had a good game, showing perhaps he deserved his Lions call up

29-14 Glasgow

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