Glasgow and Edinburgh Ongoing Banter Thread 26

by Hazel Sapling Mon 01 Feb 2021, 12:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

A continuation on previous threads discussing the past, the present and the future of Scottish rugby. A dose a day, keeps optimism away

Halfway through a Covid season and not far from the Rainbow cups, both teams are on the precipice of missing out on the top tier in Europe next year. The Rainbow Cup is a well thought out idea of including sides from South Africa, the home to a new Covid variant that vaccines may not work on, with international travel involving several regions of Europe.

Glasgow Squad

LH: Kebble, Bhatti, Lambert
Hooker: F Brown, Turner, Stewart, Matthews,
TH: Z Fagerson, Berghan, Pieretto, McCallum, McQuillan
Locks: Cummings, R Gray, Harley, McDonald, Bain, Bean
Back Row: Wilson, Gordon, M Fagerson, Darge, Dempsey, Miller, G Brown

SH: Price, G Horne, Dobie, Kennedy
FH: Weir, Miotti, P Horne, Thompson
Centres: S Johnson, McDowall, Tuipulotu, Grigg, Fergusson
Back Three: McLean, Forbes, McKay, Cancelliere, Tagive, Steyn, O Smith

Edinburgh Squad

LH: Schoeman, Venter, Grahamslaw
Hooker: McInally, Cherry, McBurney, Harrison
TH: Nel, De Bruin, Atalifo, Williams
Locks: Gilchrist, Toolis, Young, Hodgson, Sykes, Phillips
Back Row: Mata, Ritchie, Watson, Bradbury, Crosbie, Haining, Boyle, Kunavula, Muncaster

SH: Pyrgos, Vellacott, Shiel
FH: VDW, Chamberlain, Savala
Centres: Lang, Taylor, Bennett, Dean, Johnstone, Venter, Currie, Hutchison
Back Three: Graham, Kinghorn, Hoyland, Blain, Bofelli, Moyano, Immelman, Owsley

Previous Thread
https://www.606v2.com/t69760-the-glasgow-and-edinburgh-general-chat-discussions-are-limited-to-6-people-before-10pm-to-prevent-the-spread-of-jimboish
https://www.606v2.com/t69555-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-24-covid-funtimes?highlight=banter
https://www.606v2.com/t69038-glasgow-and-edinburgh-banter-thread-no-23-new-season-new-thread?highlight=banter

by funnyExiledScot Sat 12 Jun 2021, 10:12 pm

I would sack a butler and settle for a non-vintage wine to have Huw Jones at Edinburgh. I'd build the team around him!

I'm pessimistic about next season. The pack is fine, but the backs remind me of Jimbo fumbling with the 606v2 quote function in the early days!

Am watching the highlights from the prior week of English Prem action. Is it really possible we have better centres than Rory Hutchinson??

by **BigGee** Sat 12 Jun 2021, 10:15 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:I would sack a butler and settle for a non-vintage wine to have Huw Jones at Edinburgh. I'd build the team around him!

He would be far better off going to Bayonne and watching the fat French forwards of Pro D2 fighting each other, he would still be more likely to get the ball than at Edinburgh and the weather is a lot better!

by Hazel Sapling Sat 12 Jun 2021, 10:23 pm

Jamie Lyall has said on twitter there is a relegation clause, fingers crossed it is the case. H Jones would be an asset for any team but can't imagine Glasgow have the budget.

Hutchinson is excellent at club level and should be in the squad. My one concern with Hutchinson is I find his tackling suspect.

by funnyExiledScot Sat 12 Jun 2021, 10:27 pm

BigGee wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I would sack a butler and settle for a non-vintage wine to have Huw Jones at Edinburgh. I'd build the team around him!

He would be far better off going to Bayonne and watching the fat French forwards of Pro D2 fighting each other, he would still be more likely to get the ball than at Edinburgh and the weather is a lot better!

A very fair point. Duncan Hodge would ruin him!!

I still maintain there's a micro climate here in Edinburgh. I'm just not exactly sure what it is...

by **RDW** Sun 13 Jun 2021, 1:05 pm

Kyle Rowe making a blistering start for Edinburgh from fullback.

We'll soon coach that out of him!

by **RDW** Sun 13 Jun 2021, 1:11 pm

Terrible execution from the Edinburgh backs leads to s turnover and Scarlets try

by **RDW** Sun 13 Jun 2021, 1:14 pm

Good break from Cameron Hutchinson too - who looks big and strong - but again final execution letting us down

by **BigGee** Sun 13 Jun 2021, 7:05 pm

I watched the edinburgh Scarlets game on delay when i got home from work this afternoon.

While Scarlets will be kicking themselves at not closing out a game when they were 14 points up with 6 mins to play, Edinburgh were always well in the game and a draw was a pretty fair result.

We got further confirmation that Blairhorn is no FH, but there were definitely some promising performances to look at.

Surely Cammy Henderson, who was a bit of a standout at U20s, is worth a pro contract. In both his games so far, he has taken his chances and looked very good going forward. Edinburgh look a much better team with some centres who can play ball!

Kyle Rowe looked no slouch either and may explain why Sau, who had another good game, has been let go. Rowe was always well thought of in the sevens set up and showed he has a lot to his game. he looks keen to take his chance and won't break the bank either. Edinburgh are going to miss Sau though, possibly their player of the season. Surely there is another contract out there for him somewhere.

I was pretty impressed with Marshall Sykes as well, who seems to be improving every game he plays and looks like a big international second row in the making. I will watch his progress with interest.

by **BigGee** Sun 13 Jun 2021, 10:29 pm

Mark Palmer's take on the moving of young players between the Scottish Pro club sides

Rory Darge is one of the few real success stories of a tortuous Scottish pro-team season, which finally comes to an end today when Edinburgh visit Scarlets. The recent Rainbow Cup prowess of the Glasgow Warriors loose forward on both sides of the ball has seen him win rave reviews, not to mention a place on Scotland’s summer tour.

At the same time, Darge’s experience is also a cautionary tale, in that for most of the year he was kicking his heels, waiting in vain for an opportunity at Edinburgh. Had the 21-year-old not forced the issue and made the switch to the other end of the M8 at the close of the campaign as planned, he would have likely started next season in exactly the same position he began this one: a hugely promising youngster with no professional experience. There would have been no McCrea Financial Services Warrior of the Month award for May, no summer tour, no breakthrough moment.

It was natural for Darge, who was born in the capital and grew up in the East Lothian village of Aberlady, to jump at the chance of joining Edinburgh last summer, but it spoke to a real lack of strategic planning on the part of the SRU that the 2020 Scotland Under-20 captain signed for the same club on the same day as his 2019 counterpart, Connor Boyle. Both young men play in the back row, an area where Edinburgh already have deeper, richer reserves than just about any other team in Europe: behind Jamie Ritchie, Hamish Watson and Bill Mata sit fellow internationals Nick Haining, Magnus Bradbury and Mesu Kunavula plus Luke Crosbie and Ally Miller.

Darge, first from left, could make his international debut this summer after being called up to the Scotland squad for the first time by stand-in coach Mike Blair
Darge, first from left, could make his international debut this summer after being called up to the Scotland squad for the first time by stand-in coach Mike Blair
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Perhaps Darge was a victim of timing as much as anything. For all his faults, Scott Johnson, Murrayfield’s erstwhile director of rugby, was proactive about moving pieces around the chessboard to create opportunities for individuals and to fill gaps for teams. The Australian was instrumental in the switches that saw the likes of Mark Bennett, Henry Pyrgos, Duncan Weir, Jamie Bhatti and the Bryce brothers flit between the two pro clubs, and if there were varying degrees of success, the logic in each case was sound.

At the point where decisions on the likes of Darge and Boyle — who makes his first Edinburgh start today — were being made, Jim Mallinder, Johnson’s replacement, was only just picking out the furniture for his new office. The fact that Miller and Simon Berghan are swapping Edinburgh for Glasgow this month, and that Darge’s intolerable situation was belatedly addressed, suggests Mallinder is also open to the idea of spreading the love and seeking to avoid another situation where a clearly talented player is left to rot.

Before he shipped up at Scotstoun in April, the sum total of Darge’s rugby for the season was 17 minutes off the bench in Edinburgh’s 50-10 thrashing away to Leinster last November. This in a season where Richard Cockerill’s resources have been stretched thin by a combination of injury, Test absentees and Covid issues.

Naturally, youngsters are not duty-bound to remain in Scotland, and we only have to look to Cameron Henderson, one of Darge and Boyle’s under-20 team-mates, to see what can happen when the right type of character meets the right opportunity, Leicester Tigers in the case of the hulking lock who will also step up for Scotland later in June.

But when the decision is made to tie a player to an SRU contract, somebody must have the wit and the wherewithal to look beyond the immediate demands of a pro-team head coach and see the bigger picture of both individual and collective development. No hindsight is required to determine that Glasgow was always the more obvious place for Darge to thrive amid less intense competition and a style of play well matched to his talents.

He, and we, got there in the end, but the Scottish game has far too few resources to risk gratuitous wastage. Good on Darge for the persistence, resilience and big-picture thinking he has shown.

by **RDW** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 1:43 am

Just watched the rest of the game - a draw probably being a fair result. Edinburgh had a chance to turn the screw in the 2nd half but didn't take it, but we did well to fight back and score in the end.

Similar to most of the season though there were a lot of errors and we were generally relying on individuals to do something.

The young guns did well though with Cameron Hutchinson a standout. He's an absolute tank and made the gainline with every carry. Has a turn of pace too.

Kyle Rowe looks electric but also like a 7s player playing his first game of 15s!

Worth highlighting tighthead Angus Williams who is SQ - he's 27 so with s bit of conditioning might be a good asset. He held his own.

I was a bit underwhelmed with Connor Boyle - early days of course but he's not a big carrier, tackler or jackler just a bit of an all rounder. Did we get rid of the wrong young 7?

Sau had another food game and hopefully gets picked up by another club as he's a good winger.

Jack Blain looks a real good prospect - he's a classy winger to use the old cliche.

A season to forget for Edinburgh but hopefully it's given Cockers confidence to try and give the youth more gametime next season.

by **RDW** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 2:13 am

Also, Kinghorn isn't a 10.

by **BigGee** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 6:54 am

RDW wrote:Also, Kinghorn isn't a 10.

I think we hsve already established that!

Does nake you wonder with Edinburgh light on FHs and having plenty of FBs, if this is something Cockers is planning to persist with. Otherwise why not give Chamberlain the game time?

by **BigGee** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 9:20 am

https://twitter.com/IanMacGilp/status/1404036254749036552

For those of you that remember Irnbru

Well he finally made it over the line!

Congratulations to both of them

by funnyExiledScot Mon 14 Jun 2021, 11:30 am

Big congratulations to Bru! I know it's been a long wait!

Thanks for the summary RDW. My recording failed so missed the game. On Boyle vs Darge, I always just assume we make the wrong calls on these sorts of things!

Still, got my season pass for next season. God have mercy on my soul!!

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Mon 14 Jun 2021, 12:38 pm

Congrats FES, a season of scintillating Duncan Hodge coached attacking prowess awaits you, you lucky thing!

by **RDW** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 1:15 pm

BigGee wrote:https://twitter.com/IanMacGilp/status/1404036254749036552

For those of you that remember Irnbru

Well he finally made it over the line!

Congratulations to both of them

I think that was their 242nd attempt at getting married due to Covid so glad he finally got a conversion!

by **BigGee** Mon 14 Jun 2021, 1:37 pm

That Leinster game was a bruising old encounter for a game that did not really mean a lot.

Added to the casualties is Sam Johnson, out for 3 months with a facial injury!

I will be glad if we only have to play them once next season as predicted!

by tigertattie Mon 14 Jun 2021, 8:07 pm

If you think being a Scotland rugby supporter is shoite, always remember that the football is even worse!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 14 Jun 2021, 11:46 pm

tigertattie wrote:If you think being a Scotland rugby supporter is shoite, always remember that the football is even worse!

Definitely. Friday will be ugly as well!

by **George Carlin** Tue 15 Jun 2021, 5:43 am

RDW wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://twitter.com/IanMacGilp/status/1404036254749036552

For those of you that remember Irnbru

Well he finally made it over the line!

Congratulations to both of them

I think that was their 242nd attempt at getting married due to Covid so glad he finally got a conversion!

Ah, excellent - warms my old dead heart to see another idiot like me successfully fool a woman who's too good for him. Bygones. Why doesn't he post here any more? Are we really that bad?

by bsando Tue 15 Jun 2021, 4:26 pm

George Carlin wrote:
RDW wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://twitter.com/IanMacGilp/status/1404036254749036552

For those of you that remember Irnbru

Well he finally made it over the line!

Congratulations to both of them

I think that was their 242nd attempt at getting married due to Covid so glad he finally got a conversion!
Ah, excellent - warms my old dead heart to see another idiot like me successfully fool a woman who's too good for him. Bygones. Why doesn't he post here any more? Are we really that bad?

Ah excellent! Congrats to them both.

by tigertattie Wed 16 Jun 2021, 11:29 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
tigertattie wrote:If you think being a Scotland rugby supporter is shoite, always remember that the football is even worse!

Definitely. Friday will be ugly as well!

Fes, I’ve been getting pelters from the wrong shaped ball brigade for predicting a 4-0 cuffing by the Wembley mob. Apparently I “don’t have a clue about football”

All I know is that all year the first story on the news has been covid. Then on Monday night it was how Scotland lost at football. Why that isn’t just kept the sport section is beyond me. Our media, regular and social, jumped soooooo far on the I can boogie bandwagon that everyone forgot that to get there we scraped by a lot of bang average sides. Now we’re at the big boy’s table we’re getting a spanking.

We moan about how the Welsh and English media get carried away with the rugby and how their team are going to do it this year. Well my god they have nothing on our media thinking we actually stood a chance in this football thing

Saying this, Scotland will now go and hump the English eh.

Maybe not

by funnyExiledScot Thu 17 Jun 2021, 7:58 pm

You're right, we're in for a stuffing. I make one Scotland player in a combined XI (Andy Robertson) and the gulf in attacking quality is vast. Unlike in rugby in the 2000s, the weather and some astute kicking won't save us!

I see Sau is the Edinburgh Players Player of the Season. Crackers to let him go.

by **BigGee** Thu 17 Jun 2021, 10:10 pm

I imagine retaining Darcy Graham was not cheap for Edinburgh, that and the other big retainees, like Mata have cost Sau his place

A shame, he deserved to be kept on, surely he has done enough to pick up snother contract elsewhere though

by funnyExiledScot Thu 17 Jun 2021, 11:14 pm

I think you're right. But whisper it quietly, were I a cold hearted sort of chap, interested only in Edinburgh results, I'd have kept Sau over Graham.

by **RDW** Thu 17 Jun 2021, 11:23 pm

Sau has signed for a French D2 team.

Worth saying he's 31 too so wouldn't have commanded a strong place in the market.

I agree it would have been good to have kept him though.

by Hazel Sapling Fri 18 Jun 2021, 9:17 am

Edinburgh have 5 wings and a full back on the books (according to wiki) with Patterson and Sweeney in the academy. There appears to be space for Sau considering at least 1, if not 2, of Edinburgh's back 3 will end up in the Scotland squad and Owsley is unproven.

I am hoping the reason for not re-signing Sau may be that the young players coming through such as Jacob Henry (who was picked over Blain in a few u20s games according to overthemoon) and Sweeney/Patterson are considered ready to play at professional level.

by Hazel Sapling Fri 18 Jun 2021, 12:52 pm

Also forgot to mention that with the drop in games from 21 to 18 and a "normal" international season, Edinburgh can afford to reduce the size of the squad a bit.

by **BigGee** Fri 18 Jun 2021, 11:16 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:You're right, we're in for a stuffing. I make one Scotland player in a combined XI (Andy Robertson) and the gulf in attacking quality is vast. Unlike in rugby in the 2000s, the weather and some astute kicking won't save us!

.

I think there might be one or two more in the combined team now!

What a great result from the round ball guys. Not very often that I get excited about football, but this was one of them!

Hopefully like the rugby players, taking a draw in London, when it was completely stacked against the, will bring better results for the team going forward.

by tigertattie Mon 21 Jun 2021, 10:50 am

We must be the only nation in the world that celebrates a draw like we've just won the whole competition!

As a sporting nation we've got this utter blind spot still that we can be cuffed in every other game, but as long as we beat the English, we're doing well.

Until we throw off this weird way of thinking as a nation, we'll never progress. Not in football or Rugby. I think we're starting to get over it on Rugby terms but how long that lasts is another question.

by **BigGee** Mon 21 Jun 2021, 4:35 pm

https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/carolan-named-as-assistant-coach

A new attack coach for Glasgow, Nigel Carolan from Connacht.

Don't know to much about him but he seems like a time served coach and Connacht certainly play an attractive type of rugby, very much in the same style as Glasgow, so he should hopefully fit in very well.

by tigertattie Mon 21 Jun 2021, 6:40 pm

Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening

by Anglobraveheart Mon 21 Jun 2021, 6:58 pm

tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening

6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 21 Jun 2021, 10:22 pm

BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/carolan-named-as-assistant-coach

A new attack coach for Glasgow, Nigel Carolan from Connacht.

Don't know to much about him but he seems like a time served coach and Connacht certainly play an attractive type of rugby, very much in the same style as Glasgow, so he should hopefully fit in very well.

Oh for a new attack coach, or any attack coach, at Edinburgh!!

by EST Tue 22 Jun 2021, 8:22 am

tigertattie wrote:We must be the only nation in the world that celebrates a draw like we've just won the whole competition!

As a sporting nation we've got this utter blind spot still that we can be cuffed in every other game, but as long as we beat the English, we're doing well.

Until we throw off this weird way of thinking as a nation, we'll never progress. Not in football or Rugby. I think we're starting to get over it on Rugby terms but how long that lasts is another question.

I think the celebrations were mainly because we needed at least a draw to stay in the competition - I'm sure there was some increased celebration of doing so against England, but if we had lost then after all these years we'd have been out with a game to play.

I do agree in general about the blind spot though, the players need to make sure they can back it up tonight without the emotional boost of playing England - true for both sports.

by EST Tue 22 Jun 2021, 8:24 am

Anglobraveheart wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening
6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

He lives close to where I was brought up and i've seen him out and about quite a few times (he's pretty hard to miss), I can confirm that he is absolutely huge - never seen a bigger human in the flesh. Crazy to think that at 180kgs he won all of the events that involved speed/movement - it's all relative of course, but he is so dynamic for a man of that size.

by EST Tue 22 Jun 2021, 8:28 am

BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/carolan-named-as-assistant-coach

A new attack coach for Glasgow, Nigel Carolan from Connacht.

Don't know to much about him but he seems like a time served coach and Connacht certainly play an attractive type of rugby, very much in the same style as Glasgow, so he should hopefully fit in very well.

Don't know much about him either BigGee, but all the comments I've seen from Irish fans appear positive, Connacht certainly play an attractive brand of rugby and he is experienced but still with something to prove - our last ex-Connacht coach didn't turn out too badly!

Wilson/Kellock are doing some very good work in the transfer market, both coach and player wise.

by **George Carlin** Tue 22 Jun 2021, 5:38 pm

EST wrote:
Anglobraveheart wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening
6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

He lives close to where I was brought up and i've seen him out and about quite a few times (he's pretty hard to miss), I can confirm that he is absolutely huge - never seen a bigger human in the flesh. Crazy to think that at 180kgs he won all of the events that involved speed/movement - it's all relative of course, but he is so dynamic for a man of that size.

I'll give you a thousand quid if you see him again and ask him if he thinks all that spandex is a little bit effeminate.

I'll even come and visit you in the hospital, so I can't say fairer than that.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 22 Jun 2021, 5:48 pm

Anglobraveheart wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening
6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

Stick him at lock behind the tighthead. Scrum will be going nowhere.

by tigertattie Tue 22 Jun 2021, 9:38 pm

We’re pish at football eh.

Still, lions starts next week

by **BigGee** Wed 23 Jun 2021, 11:01 am

Cameron Hutchinson gets a pro partnership contract with Edinburgh on the back of 2 very impressive performances in the last 2 Rainbow cup games.

He always looked like a junior with the potential to go pro so good to see him get his chance now.

by Hazel Sapling Wed 23 Jun 2021, 11:46 am

From the sounds of the reviews on here, Hutchison was given an opportunity and delivered.

According to wiki, spent a year at Stade Nicois and came back to win several man of the matches in the Super Six. In a way, he should have been given his shot earlier and would have if we had another pro team.

With Scott leaving last year, are we at risk of seeing one of the older centres offloaded (Bennett or Dean)? Edinburgh have 7 or 8 centres on the books and none are a threat to be missing during internationals consistently without injuries to others.

by EST Wed 23 Jun 2021, 1:28 pm

George Carlin wrote:
EST wrote:
Anglobraveheart wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening
6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

He lives close to where I was brought up and i've seen him out and about quite a few times (he's pretty hard to miss), I can confirm that he is absolutely huge - never seen a bigger human in the flesh. Crazy to think that at 180kgs he won all of the events that involved speed/movement - it's all relative of course, but he is so dynamic for a man of that size.
I'll give you a thousand quid if you see him again and ask him if he thinks all that spandex is a little bit effeminate.

I'll even come and visit you in the hospital, so I can't say fairer than that.

Well, if somehow I managed to get away unscathed from Tom i'm certain his 'big' brother would catch up with me - he's only the 7th strongest man in the world Glasgow and Edinburgh Ongoing Banter Thread 26 - Page 17 1f601

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by EST Wed 23 Jun 2021, 1:29 pm

BigGee wrote:Cameron Hutchinson gets a pro partnership contract with Edinburgh on the back of 2 very impressive performances in the last 2 Rainbow cup games.

He always looked like a junior with the potential to go pro so good to see him get his chance now.

Delighted Hutchinson is getting a shot - was always a name that seemed to be positively reviewed in U20's dispatches a few years ago. He's a powerful looking bloke.

by **George Carlin** Wed 23 Jun 2021, 4:42 pm

EST wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
EST wrote:
Anglobraveheart wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Now that Tom Stoltman has won the world’s strongest man, could we convert him into our much needed number 8???

Having him running onto crash balls would be utterly frightening
6 foot 8, and 28 and a half stone. He wouldn't even need to run!

He lives close to where I was brought up and i've seen him out and about quite a few times (he's pretty hard to miss), I can confirm that he is absolutely huge - never seen a bigger human in the flesh. Crazy to think that at 180kgs he won all of the events that involved speed/movement - it's all relative of course, but he is so dynamic for a man of that size.
I'll give you a thousand quid if you see him again and ask him if he thinks all that spandex is a little bit effeminate.

I'll even come and visit you in the hospital, so I can't say fairer than that.

Well, if somehow I managed to get away unscathed from Tom i'm certain his 'big' brother would catch up with me - he's only the 7th strongest man in the world

I'm imagining that Christmas round at the Stoltman house is like a direct enactment of a medieval banquet with protein piled high to the ceiling. And jugs of mead on the table.

by bsando Wed 23 Jun 2021, 6:08 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:From the sounds of the reviews on here, Hutchison was given an opportunity and delivered.

According to wiki, spent a year at Stade Nicois and came back to win several man of the matches in the Super Six. In a way, he should have been given his shot earlier and would have if we had another pro team.

With Scott leaving last year, are we at risk of seeing one of the older centres offloaded (Bennett or Dean)? Edinburgh have 7 or 8 centres on the books and none are a threat to be missing during internationals consistently without injuries to others.

And there’s that young inside centre Ventner that Cockers signed from same town as DVDM. Wonder when we’ll see him getting a game? Presumably he’s playing the super 6?

by **BigGee** Thu 24 Jun 2021, 10:31 am

Lewis Carmichael retires due to the accumulative concussions over past few seasons.

That one has been on the cards for a while, but still a shame that he was never really able to fulfil his potential.

Best of luck to him in whatever he decides to pursue in the future.

by **RDW** Thu 24 Jun 2021, 10:35 am

That's a shame - even without the concussion issues he was probably at risk of having to retire anyway from all his other injuries. A talented player who never really managed much of a run of games.

by **BigGee** Thu 24 Jun 2021, 11:01 am

Ayrshire Bulls seem to be hoovering up all the players dis-guarded by Glasgow at the end of this season.

Nairn, Thornton, Gavin Lowe, Jordan Lemac (SH who was on the fringes of the Glasgow squad a few times last season) now all signed up.

Maybe some of them have been told not to quite give up on their professional dreams just yet but to go off and get some game time, which they have all been sadly lacking this season.

The Super 6 starts at the beginning of August this year and all of those players should be well match fit by the time the URC gets going towards the end of September.

Maybe that will be the model going forward as well, slightly smaller pro squads with the ability to pick up players from Super if required. In many ways it makes some sense.

I hope some of those players get to show what hey are worth.

I have not seen any announcements from any other Super 6 sides, Ayr might be walking away with it as things stand.

by EST Thu 24 Jun 2021, 11:04 am

BigGee wrote:Lewis Carmichael retires due to the accumulative concussions over past few seasons.

That one has been on the cards for a while, but still a shame that he was never really able to fulfil his potential.

Best of luck to him in whatever he decides to pursue in the future.

Real shame, and scary that a guy of 26 is forced to retire out of the game. Best of luck to him indeed.

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