Gallagher Premiership 2020/21

by formerly known as Sam Fri 05 Mar 2021, 21:46

First topic message reminder :

That's not a high tackle. Heyes initial contact is the chest. If you're going to review it, review it properly. It's a legal tackle.

How did the assistant miss that the LI player knocks the ball out of JVP's hands and into touch before the Joseph break. It was right in front of him FFS. Lineout Tigers.

Anyway, Tigers blow what should have been a straightforward win and only get 4 instead of 5 points. LI manage to snatch 2 league points with a TBP at the death. Probably a fair result as LI were the better side in the first half but didn't really show up in the second. Hassell-Collins is looking like a really classy player, shame Parton went off.

by Geordie Fri 23 Apr 2021, 15:50

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Saints team announced:

15 George Furbank
14 Matt Proctor
13 Rory Hutchinson
12 Piers Francis
11 Ollie Sleightholme
10 Dan Biggar
9 Alex Mitchell

1 Alex Waller (co-capt)
2 Sam Matavesi
3 Ehren Painter
4 David Ribbans
5 Alex Moon
6 Tom Wood
7 Lewis Ludlam (co-capt)
8 Teimana Harrison

Replacements:
16 Mike Haywood
17 Nick Auterac
18 Paul Hill
19 Alex Coles
20 Shaun Adendorff
21 Tom James
22 Ahsee Tuala
23 Tommy Freeman

Not available due to injury:
Owen Franks (foot), Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (achilles), Nick Isiekwe (pectoral), Courtney Lawes (pectoral), Taqele Naiyaravoro (calf), Ryan Olowofela (ankle), Api Ratuniyarawa (shoulder), and Kayde Sylvester (achilles).

Referee: Karl Dickson God help us all
Assistant referees: Wayne Falla and Rob Warburton
No.4: Hamish Smales
TMO: Nigel Carrick

What is it about the Saints players Pecs, both Lawes and Isiekwe out with pectoral injuries

Very strong bench there, all players that like it a bit open, good for the last 20, could have done with Naiyaravoro though. His mere presence opens up space for the others.

I can't quite see Borthwick as Kim Jong-un, but he is relatively new, so he has time to garner some of the local influences become a despot.

Maybe it's the bench (press) that's the problem. laughing

by doctor_grey Fri 23 Apr 2021, 15:56

Maybe Saints players think they are like those Kardashians and need to have some, ahem, support there.

by doctor_grey Fri 23 Apr 2021, 16:00

Borthwick can’t do the Kim Jong-Un haircut. Will probably be fired or sent to a re-education facility for that.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/17/north-korean-fashion-police-crack-banned-haircuts/amp/
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/an-north-korea-men-must-have-kim-jong-un-hair/5348626
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/north-korea-hairstyles-approved-kim-17012779

by formerly known as Sam Fri 23 Apr 2021, 17:21

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:

I can't quite see Borthwick as Kim Jong-un, but he is relatively new, so he has time to garner some of the local influences become a despot.

The Tigers head of media is a cheeky Aussie and has long since been refering to Borthwick as the "Dark Lord" and other similar titles.

by doctor_grey Sat 24 Apr 2021, 00:46

No one commented about Exe-Bristol? I was working and did not see it. But wanted to kow people's opinions. Probably a preview of the Finals, unless my Saints upset the apple cart.......

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 08:25

doctor_grey wrote:No one commented about Exe-Bristol? I was working and did not see it. But wanted to kow people's opinions. Probably a preview of the Finals, unless my Saints upset the apple cart.......

I'd suggest watching the first half. Might be the best 40 mins of rugby I've seen in a while. Both teams were throwing the ball around, there was loads of turnovers and proper turnovers with the ball taken and then attacked instead of penalties. Exeter didn't concede a penalty until the second half. The second half was good but Exeter had a lead to defend and were just able to exert too much control.

Andy Item's try for Bristol showed off some ridiculous acceleration and came from a first phase move off a scrum around their own 22. Sam Simmons rampaged all over the place and made a silly amount of metres despite being heavily taped up.

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 12:18

Some great performances. And the likes of Johnny Hill showing why he shouldn't be thrown out by England just yet...

by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Apr 2021, 12:44

Dallaglio again showing why hes one of the worst commentators around. Calling a forward pass where a ball has travelled forward rather than explain and clearly understand the interpretations around that law.

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 13:02

Ref was wrong to not listen to the TMO though as it was a clear forward pass - that wasn't just momentum ...

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 13:13

Another clearly forward pass missed by the officials ...

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 13:16

Finally spots a forward pass - but it's from Irish Rolling Eyes

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 13:41

Really not sure what the officials are doing Care interfering with the 8 before he's picked up the ball from the scrum and offside as he's in front of the line of the ball and they ping Irish ... result try for Quins ...

by tigertattie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 13:45

Joe marler is part hilarious part nobhead

by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:16

Goode and Dallaglio again not knowing the laws around knock ons. Embarrassing considering the high standards BT has generally brought with their coverage.

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:27

Aaww Marcus Smith....lovely finish...

by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:27

You have to say after a quiet first half Smith really has grown into the game after the red.

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:29

LI should have had their game sewn up long before. Just got pulled into an open game against the 14 man Quins. Smith with some lovely footwork for the win but LI should have never let them have the opportunity, far too loose and needless penalties.

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:32

Thrown away by LI but some woeful officiating didn't help

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:47

No 7&1/2 wrote:Goode and Dallaglio again not knowing the laws around knock ons. Embarrassing considering the high standards BT has generally brought with their coverage.

Possibly, but I'm not sure the ball actually went forwards from Loader's hands in the first place ...

by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Apr 2021, 14:56

Heaf wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Goode and Dallaglio again not knowing the laws around knock ons. Embarrassing considering the high standards BT has generally brought with their coverage.

Possibly, but I'm not sure the ball actually went forwards from Loader's hands in the first place ...

You can argue that but that's clearly not what they were saying. They're stealing a living.

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:05

Early signs that Cobus van Wyk will be no less of a liability for Tigers since his ban. Saints have started brightly.

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:05

True - them and the officials who clearly don't know the scrum laws either ...

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:06

Get in Falcons. Callum Chick.

Very adventurous attacking start by us.

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:06

Tiger's have blown a couple of good chances too

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:12

And Zammett scores a nicely taken try.

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:15

McGuigan scores...

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:18

Maybe I'm watching the wrong match - sounds like it's all happing at the shed ...

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:20

Defence optional Heaf

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:21

Heaf wrote:Tiger's have blown a couple of good chances too

Yeah our attack is a work in progress and it's not quite clinical enough.

I did like the TMOs handling of a shoulder to head contact. The Saints player did everything he could to make a legal tackle and Kelly fell into him. Nice to see that was checked and just play on.

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:22

Whilst we're dar from perfect....why don't we try to play like this all the time. All action, high energy and aggressive carrying....

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:22

Callum Chick scores his second....

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:23

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Heaf wrote:Tiger's have blown a couple of good chances too

Yeah our attack is a work in progress and it's not quite clinical enough.

I did like the TMOs handling of a shoulder to head contact. The Saints player did everything he could to make a legal tackle and Kelly fell into him. Nice to see that was checked and just play on.

Common sense prevailed ...

by Geordie Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:29

And now we WIN.....a scrum penalty!!!!

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:42

Come on Tigers convert some of these chances - I've picked you to win by 1 ...

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:44

Tigers 3 -12 Saints at HT

Saints with two late changes, Freeman for Sleightholme and Adendorff for Harrison

Tries from Ribbans and Hutchinson, penalty from Ford.

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:45

Did I imagine that try?

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:46

Dickson somehow misses Saints collapse a rolling maul destined for the try line hitting the ground a metre short but Tigers manage to muscle it over after several phases. Initially really good defence from Saints but a clever line close makes the difference.

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:46

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Tigers 3 -12 Saints at HT

Saints with two late changes, Freeman for Sleightholme and Adendorff for Harrison

Tries from Ribbans and Hutchinson, penalty from Ford.

You called that a bit early...

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:46

I think Harrison was a late change too?

Oops meant Hill in for Painter

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:48

I did in deed, thought the board said HT

England Women beat France 10- 6

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:48

I did in deed, thought the board said HT

England Women beat France 10- 6

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:51

Heaf wrote:I think Harrison was a late change too?

Oops meant Hill in for Painter

Must have been one hell of a warm up.

At least it gives us an excuse, but if the Tiggers lose to a side shorn of their captain, highest try scorer and biggest prop all just before the start.................... well, what can I say.

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:52

10 -15 Biggar replies with a penalty

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:53

That's why I changed my pick from Saints to Tigers - could bite me in the bum Shocked

by Heaf Sat 24 Apr 2021, 15:58

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:I did in deed, thought the board said HT

England Women beat France 10- 6

That's the 6N title then I believe?

Congrats to the England women for winning it again ...

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 16:06

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:
Heaf wrote:I think Harrison was a late change too?

Oops meant Hill in for Painter

Must have been one hell of a warm up.

At least it gives us an excuse, but if the Tiggers lose to a side shorn of their captain, highest try scorer and biggest prop all just before the start.................... well, what can I say.

To be fair Hill is a better player than Painter, Adendorff has been one of it not your best player so far. Freeman has been lively but his only break saw him get tackled into touch when one on one Vs Steward.

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 16:08

10 - 18 Biggar again

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 24 Apr 2021, 16:10

formerly known as Sam wrote:
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:
Heaf wrote:I think Harrison was a late change too?

Oops meant Hill in for Painter

Must have been one hell of a warm up.

At least it gives us an excuse, but if the Tiggers lose to a side shorn of their captain, highest try scorer and biggest prop all just before the start.................... well, what can I say.

To be fair Hill is a better player than Painter, Adendorff has been one of it not your best player so far. Freeman has been lively but his only break saw him get tackled into touch when one on one Vs Steward.

I'll give you Hill. but Harrison has been on fire since he came back from injury, easily step up from Adendorff. Sleightholme has scored 9 tries in the last 6 games, Freeman a worthy replacement, but more of a 15 than a 14

by No 7&1/2 Sat 24 Apr 2021, 16:12

Dont agree with a yellow for that. That said its another stupid foul where you're risking an interpretation like that. Leicester would be winning i think bar the stupidity.

by formerly known as Sam Sat 24 Apr 2021, 16:12

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:10 - 18 Biggar again

Needless penalty as well.

TMO hands Saints an absolute gift with a yellow card to Wells for "targeting the standing leg on a charge down" completely overlooking the fact he makes contact with the kicking leg. It was a late one and no more. Really poor officiating reacting more to the Saints players shouting like footballers than the incident.

Saints score a really nice try almost straight after.

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