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Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread
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Ben Leicester have been fortunate to find wealthy owners who saved us from a deal of trouble but they could not be accused of throwing stupid money around and disregarding the fans.The PL winning team was assembled from a bunch of frees ,has beens and cheap buys I think Ulloa was the top buy at about £9m.What they then did as some players moved on for big money was start throwing some of that money about to try to maintain position with varying degrees of success.The Chairman gives away free beer and cakes on his birthday and has given a lot to local organisations including a childrens hospital ,We have been very very lucky.
I think the German teams have a different voting structure where fans have a big say.
Ben Leicester have been fortunate to find wealthy owners who saved us from a deal of trouble but they could not be accused of throwing stupid money around and disregarding the fans.The PL winning team was assembled from a bunch of frees ,has beens and cheap buys I think Ulloa was the top buy at about £9m.What they then did as some players moved on for big money was start throwing some of that money about to try to maintain position with varying degrees of success.The Chairman gives away free beer and cakes on his birthday and has given a lot to local organisations including a childrens hospital ,We have been very very lucky.
I think the German teams have a different voting structure where fans have a big say.
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I dont think they did keep it quiet. Statements were made at the deal with discovery was announced, it was just years ago.
But, do you think the beeb should have paid over 920m for Europe wide coverage of the Olympics?
But, do you think the beeb should have paid over 920m for Europe wide coverage of the Olympics?
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Second is first of the loosers.My old company had a motivational speaker at our last big conference and he spoke about going to the london olympics and watching the big event 100m final .The winner Usain Bolt - he then asked the audience who came second and in a room of 300 plus noone knew the answer,
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beninho wrote:I dont think they did keep it quiet. Statements were made at the deal with discovery was announced, it was just years ago.
But, do you think the beeb should have paid over 920m for Europe wide coverage of the Olympics?
I'd rather they spent money on things that people want to watch, rather than spunk 100m on diversity training.
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Duty281 wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:Was talking about this the other day, with regards to the tennis player Broady. Imagine being ranked 144th in the world, yet still being classed or thought of as a failure because you are only 144th in the world.
Like being 2nd best at a sport in the world, winning a silver Olympic medal then being sniped at as a failure by some no mark with no achievements from the Internet.
I'm not calling him a failure, I'm querying celebrating a third place when at any time they'd be devasted not to win. Why is not winning a great thing in the Olympics, when it's seen as a bad thing at any other time?
If you got to your Club Champ final, would you do a lap of honour when you got beaten 7&6?
It's simply down to expectation. If you expect to finish around 8th in your event, but end up getting bronze you'll be delighted. If you expect to win your event and end up getting bronze (like Walkden earlier) you won't be content. I'm sure it works the same in other non-Olympic events as well.
I'll bear that in mind next time England don't win a football tournament. I'll say, chin up lads, you should be biting your runners up medal and be deliriously happy.
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Wheres this 100m training from?
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
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super_realist wrote:Duty281 wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:Was talking about this the other day, with regards to the tennis player Broady. Imagine being ranked 144th in the world, yet still being classed or thought of as a failure because you are only 144th in the world.
Like being 2nd best at a sport in the world, winning a silver Olympic medal then being sniped at as a failure by some no mark with no achievements from the Internet.
I'm not calling him a failure, I'm querying celebrating a third place when at any time they'd be devasted not to win. Why is not winning a great thing in the Olympics, when it's seen as a bad thing at any other time?
If you got to your Club Champ final, would you do a lap of honour when you got beaten 7&6?
It's simply down to expectation. If you expect to finish around 8th in your event, but end up getting bronze you'll be delighted. If you expect to win your event and end up getting bronze (like Walkden earlier) you won't be content. I'm sure it works the same in other non-Olympic events as well.
I'll bear that in mind next time England don't win a football tournament. I'll say, chin up lads, you should be biting your runners up medal and be deliriously happy.
Just to ask, do you think that the team gymnasts, in a competition that GB hadn't won a medal for 100 years, shouldn't be happy with bronze, when they outperformed expectations with a team average age if 17?
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We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
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beninho wrote:Wheres this 100m training from?
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
Not when it hasn't proven to be efficacious. Critical race theory for example is pseudoscience, and £100m? The BBC is not that big.
Besides its not just that, that includes programming too. Why does it cost money to be diverse in terms of programming?
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super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
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JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
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super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
OK, so your whole poibt is now confirmed as nonsense, and us just exactly what everyone says. People are happy to win a medal and it all comes to expectations. If you think someone celebrating a medal is hard you should see the teams celebrating 4th place in the Premier league!
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super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:Wheres this 100m training from?
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
Not when it hasn't proven to be efficacious. Critical race theory for example is pseudoscience, and £100m? The BBC is not that big.
Besides its not just that, that includes programming too. Why does it cost money to be diverse in terms of programming?
Where is this 100m from? Do you have a break down of the training sessions?
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So on the olympic coverage thing, where can I watch the full coverage if not on the BBC?
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super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
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McLaren wrote:So on the olympic coverage thing, where can I watch the full coverage if not on the BBC?
Eurosport. Which is owned by Discovery. Has 9 channels on Sky.
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JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
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JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
People should never go full piers Morgan
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beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:Wheres this 100m training from?
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
Not when it hasn't proven to be efficacious. Critical race theory for example is pseudoscience, and £100m? The BBC is not that big.
Besides its not just that, that includes programming too. Why does it cost money to be diverse in terms of programming?
Where is this 100m from? Do you have a break down of the training sessions?
I didn't say it was all training.
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super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
So, your opinion is all based on assumptions?
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Or Discovery+ online which is about £7 a month.
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super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:Wheres this 100m training from?
Though, even if it's true, is it a surprise that a massive company trains on diversity and equality? I've had equality training, surely most managers should.
Not when it hasn't proven to be efficacious. Critical race theory for example is pseudoscience, and £100m? The BBC is not that big.
Besides its not just that, that includes programming too. Why does it cost money to be diverse in terms of programming?
Where is this 100m from? Do you have a break down of the training sessions?
I didn't say it was all training.
You said they spunk 100m on diversity training. Your exact words. So, you didn't mean that?
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beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
So, your opinion is all based on assumptions?
Why is it not odd to he happy with 2nd or 3rd when you wouldn't be happy at any other time?
Thankfully we have had athletes who were throughly pissed off to be silver or bronze. That's a winners attitude.
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So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
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super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
So, your opinion is all based on assumptions?
Why is it not odd to he happy with 2nd or 3rd when you wouldn't be happy at any other time?
Thankfully we have had athletes who were throughly pissed off to be silver or bronze. That's a winners attitude.
You sound like you know better than the athletes themselves how they should react. It must be nice to feel so comfortably superior to them (and to just about everyone else, based on your posts).
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Maybe everyone that wins a medal needs to ring the how do I celebrate call line manned by Piers Morgan and his group of Weirdos before celebrating or throwing the bronze in the face of some ioc dignitary at the ceremony.
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Super
At least a bronze is better than chickening out. This Biles thing is wild.
At least a bronze is better than chickening out. This Biles thing is wild.
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At least a bronze is better than chickening out. This Biles thing is wild.
If she had a broken leg, woukd she be chickening out? Health is health.
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Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
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JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
So, your opinion is all based on assumptions?
Why is it not odd to he happy with 2nd or 3rd when you wouldn't be happy at any other time?
Thankfully we have had athletes who were throughly pissed off to be silver or bronze. That's a winners attitude.
You sound like you know better than the athletes themselves how they should react. It must be nice to feel so comfortably superior to them (and to just about everyone else, based on your posts).
Stop being so pious and right on.
I've asked a question which no one has answered.
I'm not claiming to know better than the athletes, I'm asking a question.
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McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Performance anxiety wrapped up as mental health. It's a get out of jail card.
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Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
How do you know that? Did you pick up the c*nt baton for today?
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McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Hi Mclaren. Have you ever been sexually abused?
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super_realist wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Performance anxiety wrapped up as mental health. It's a get out of jail card.
Hi Super Realist. Have you ever been sexually abused?
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beninho wrote:So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
How happy were the England team coming second at the Euro's?
Remember how "happy" Murray was when Federer beat him in the Wimbledon final?
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beninho wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Hi Mclaren. Have you ever been sexually abused?
Weird thing to ask.
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McLaren wrote:beninho wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Hi Mclaren. Have you ever been sexually abused?
Weird thing to ask.
Not in the context of talking about Biles it isn't.
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super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
How happy we're the England team coming second at the Euro's?
Remember how "happy" Murray was when Federer beat him in the Wimbledon final?
You just keep arguing the point everyone has made. It's about expectations.
Only an absolute moron can't accept that people can and shoukd be overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. As proven by the people being overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. Its really very very simple.
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beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Performance anxiety wrapped up as mental health. It's a get out of jail card.
Hi Super Realist. Have you ever been sexually abused?
No thanks Ben, but thanks for the offer.
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McLaren wrote:beninho wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
Hi Mclaren. Have you ever been sexually abused?
Weird thing to ask.
Why?
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beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
How happy we're the England team coming second at the Euro's?
Remember how "happy" Murray was when Federer beat him in the Wimbledon final?
You just keep arguing the point everyone has made. It's about expectations.
Only an absolute moron can't accept that people can and shoukd be overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. As proven by the people being overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. Its really very very simple.
Yes, if it is about expectation then why were England players and supporters disappointed with second? That's beyond expectation.
Shouldn't Murray have been ecstatic to be beaten by the greatest grass court player of all time? Yes, all expectation
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superflyweight wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
How do you know that? Did you pick up the c*nt baton for today?
In some ways I hope she does have a psychiatric problem. I hope she hasn't jumped on the current mental health fad and lumped in performance anxiety with psychiatry. If you had a faster heart rate before an event would you claim to have a cardiology issue?
It really is peculiar how the general public have accepted the invasion of psychiatry by pseudoscience.
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super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
How happy we're the England team coming second at the Euro's?
Remember how "happy" Murray was when Federer beat him in the Wimbledon final?
You just keep arguing the point everyone has made. It's about expectations.
Only an absolute moron can't accept that people can and shoukd be overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. As proven by the people being overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. Its really very very simple.
Yes, if it is about expectation then why were England players and supporters disappointed with second? That's beyond expectation.
Shouldn't Murray have been ecstatic to be beaten by the greatest grass court player of all time? Yes, all expectation
Because those are knock-out events. Once you've made a final, of course you'll be disappointed to lose it in the immediate aftermath. That's different to an event like team gymnastics where all competitors compete at once.
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McLaren wrote:superflyweight wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
How do you know that? Did you pick up the c*nt baton for today?
In some ways I hope she does have a psychiatric problem. I hope she hasn't jumped on the current mental health fad and lumped in performance anxiety with psychiatry. If you had a faster heart rate before an event would you claim to have a cardiology issue?
It really is peculiar how the general public have accepted the invasion of psychiatry by pseudoscience.
I'm assuming you haven't been sexually abused then. Well I hope you haven't. But, surely you can understand that the impact of being sexually abused, while also working for the association who employed the person who sexually abused you, can manifest itself in many ways both short and long term.
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super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
Unless anyone on here has competed in the Olympics then we're not qualified to answer. Maybe we should just let the athletes react as they see fit rather than imposing on own views on them, as if we know better.
What a tired answer. In that case don't reply to anything you're not an expert on or have experience in.
I'm not imposing my views at all, I'm expressing an opinion or is that not allowed now?
I'm pretty sure someone who is an expert would know better than any of us. By all means express an opinion but also have the grace to accept it may be wrong.
Like I said, feel free not to comment on anything unless you're an expert.
I however will comment and it's my opinion that it's strange to be happy with 2nd or 3rd in the Olympics when you'd be fed up with second or third in any other event.
So, your opinion is all based on assumptions?
Why is it not odd to he happy with 2nd or 3rd when you wouldn't be happy at any other time?
Thankfully we have had athletes who were throughly pissed off to be silver or bronze. That's a winners attitude.
You sound like you know better than the athletes themselves how they should react. It must be nice to feel so comfortably superior to them (and to just about everyone else, based on your posts).
Stop being so pious and right on.
I've asked a question which no one has answered.
I'm not claiming to know better than the athletes, I'm asking a question.
There you go again. You do like to feel superior to people.
As for the 'asking a question' bit, it's been explained and you've since opined that the attitude of athletes who celebrate silver or bronze is that of a loser, but you make exceptions where it is 'somewhat acceptable' to you.
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super_realist wrote:We have already been through that, and I agreed that in those terms then being pleased is somewhat acceptable.
My point was that if it isn't a pleasing thing at any other time, why do people get such a hard on at the Olympics?
You can always not watch or follow it if happiness offends you so much.
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McLaren wrote:superflyweight wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
How do you know that? Did you pick up the c*nt baton for today?
In some ways I hope she does have a psychiatric problem. I hope she hasn't jumped on the current mental health fad and lumped in performance anxiety with psychiatry. If you had a faster heart rate before an event would you claim to have a cardiology issue?
It really is peculiar how the general public have accepted the invasion of psychiatry by pseudoscience.
What does it matter whether its performance anxiety or a deeper rooted psychiatric problem? Perhaps the deeper problem is causing the performance anxiety. Neither she, nor you, nor the vast majority of people complaining about it are qualified to express a meaningful opinion. Your opinion is based on nothing.
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Duty281 wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:super_realist wrote:beninho wrote:So again, as everyone has said, it's about expectations. Which you keep arguing about. And also how do you know that someone who wins bronze wouldn't be happy with a bronze at a similar field event. It's just a wild assumption.
The gymnasts were over the moon, brought to tears of joy. Yet, no achievement nameless faceless man on the Internet says they shouldn't be. That's really odd.
How happy we're the England team coming second at the Euro's?
Remember how "happy" Murray was when Federer beat him in the Wimbledon final?
You just keep arguing the point everyone has made. It's about expectations.
Only an absolute moron can't accept that people can and shoukd be overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. As proven by the people being overjoyed with a bronze or silver medal. Its really very very simple.
Yes, if it is about expectation then why were England players and supporters disappointed with second? That's beyond expectation.
Shouldn't Murray have been ecstatic to be beaten by the greatest grass court player of all time? Yes, all expectation
Because those are knock-out events. Once you've made a final, of course you'll be disappointed to lose it in the immediate aftermath. That's different to an event like team gymnastics where all competitors compete at once.
Exactly.
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Ben
Don't worry, I sympathise with everything Biles has gone through, but does that mean I can't call out pseudoscience when I see it?
Don't worry, I sympathise with everything Biles has gone through, but does that mean I can't call out pseudoscience when I see it?
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Argentina looked pretty happy with third. Someone needs to tell them that 3rd is shi$t. And they shoukd hang their heads in shame.
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McLaren wrote:superflyweight wrote:McLaren wrote:Ben
Thing is though, she isn't psychiatrically unwell so it's not comparable to a broken leg. People need to stop being conned by the conflation between feeling a but unhappy and real medical conditions.
How do you know that? Did you pick up the c*nt baton for today?
In some ways I hope she does have a psychiatric problem. I hope she hasn't jumped on the current mental health fad and lumped in performance anxiety with psychiatry. If you had a faster heart rate before an event would you claim to have a cardiology issue?
It really is peculiar how the general public have accepted the invasion of psychiatry by pseudoscience.
It is also peculiar how the general public have all become experts in psychiatry to the extent that they can watch TV and read news reports and then accurately diagnose the individual mental wellbeing issues of famous people.
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