Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[super_realist]

First topic message reminder :

Should we be there?

Well if you dont mind whats happening now and support sharia law then I guess not.

[Pal Joey]

Super

But I assume you let people lick around your pee hole?

Pee is sterile

Can see why Mohandas Gandhi used to have a swig of cow's piss each day. To keep all the fans and journalists at arm's length.

Unfortunately for him though, his assassin was probably also a daily drinker of the golden liquid.

[super_realist]

Super

But I assume you let people lick around your pee hole?

Pee is sterile

Can see why Mohandas Gandhi used to have a swig of cow's piss each day. To keep all the fans and journalists at arm's length.

The woke favourite despite being a racist and a terrible mysoginist.

[beninho]

In what context are people saying mother is an issue? I remember sonething a whike ago when people school letter addressed to oarents or guardians.

[beninho]

I tell you what, there are no group of people more intolerant then the anti woke brigade.

[Pal Joey]

Super

But I assume you let people lick around your pee hole?

Pee is sterile

Can see why Mohandas Gandhi used to have a swig of cow's piss each day. To keep all the fans and journalists at arm's length.

The woke favourite despite being a racist and a terrible mysoginist.

He was also very inadequately dressed for public occasions. Didn't he turn up in Manchester barefoot and with barely a thread on in winter?

[super_realist]

In what context are people saying mother is an issue? I remember sonething a whike ago when people school letter addressed to oarents or guardians.

I think it was Stonewall, the loony gay charity was asking employers to replace "mother" with the term "birth parent".

Surely even a lefty like you would see that as stupid and unnecessary?

[super_realist]

I tell you what, there are no group of people more intolerant then the anti woke brigade.

Except the woke brigade. I dont see the anti woke brigade asking for people to be fired, cancelled, reprimanded or being censored for speech and that if you dont agree with them then youre a bigot

[lostinwales]

Why don't anti-woke people just wear a badge saying 'Ignorant and proud of it'?

[super_realist]

Why don't anti-woke people just wear a badge saying 'Ignorant and proud of it'?

Being anti woke doesnt make you ignorant when you consider its simpy a rejection of some of the utter nonsense that comes from the woke taliban, offence archaeologists and wet lettuces who are scared of offending their own shadow

[Soul Requiem]

Why don't anti-woke people just wear a badge saying 'Ignorant and proud of it'?

Brilliant input as ever, you only deal in generalisations, no depth.

[beninho]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

[super_realist]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

[beninho]

I dont think k Spooky has even banned either

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/no-spooky-not-banned-national-theatre-scotland-racism-1639853%3famp=1

[beninho]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

[super_realist]

I dont think k Spooky has  even banned either

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/no-spooky-not-banned-national-theatre-scotland-racism-1639853%3famp=1

Again I didnt claim it was banned, just that some loons thought it was potentially "offensive" and that maybe it shouldnt be used.

[super_realist]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

It is hilarious that any company, charity or indovidual woyld ever think its sensible to encohrage the use of "birthing parent" instead of "mother"

Imagine your kid has been run over by a car and you are rushed to hospital to be with them. The hospital asks if you are the "father" and you reply " no, im the sperm donor for the birth parent". Its ridiculous language.
If a trans person or whatever wants to use that language fine, but we shouldn't have any charity suggesting, encouraging, or cajolong anyone, school, workplace or anywhere else to use such terms as substitutes just incase a miniscule % of a population might have some fake offence about it. Its none of their business.

This is the madness of wokeness.

[beninho]

I dont think k Spooky has  even banned either

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/no-spooky-not-banned-national-theatre-scotland-racism-1639853%3famp=1

Again I dodnt claim it was banned, just tjat some loons thought it was offensive and that maybe it shouldnt be used.

People have extreme views. Some kill politicians of both sides, some are anti vax nutters, some hate guys, Jews, other races and religions. Unfortunately that's the world, but you can't tar everyone that is woke as wrong because of a small group, same as you cant tar every Somalian as a terrorist.

Generally everyone in the world shoukd be a bit woke.

[beninho]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

What are you on about?

[beninho]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

What are you on about? And who gives a sh&t.

[super_realist]

I dont think k Spooky has  even banned either

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/no-spooky-not-banned-national-theatre-scotland-racism-1639853%3famp=1

Again I dodnt claim it was banned, just tjat some loons thought it was offensive and that maybe it shouldnt be used.

People have extreme views. Some kill politicians of both sides, some are anti vax nutters, some hate guys, Jews, other races and religions. Unfortunately that's the world, but you can't tar everyone that is woke as wrong because of a small group, same as you cant tar every Somalian as a terrorist.

Generally everyone in the world shoukd be a bit woke.

None ofbthose examples relate to being woke

[JuliusHMarx]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

But presumably you wouldn't object if a company did that?

[super_realist]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

What are you on about? And who gives a sh&t.

If no one gives a sh1t, why do Stonewall come out with this crap?

[super_realist]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

But presumably you wouldn't object if a company did that?

I would think ot was ridiculous and that their HR department should have better things to do. I wouldnt personally use the terms.

[beninho]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

What are you on about? And who gives a sh&t.

If no one gives a sh1t, why do Stonewall come out with this crap?

No, who gives a sh&t how a lgbtq+ company deals with its staff. I don't. I really find it hard to be bothered about them, I found it easier to be bothered about media firms twisting things to make people think tge company has an issue with the word Mother, when it's all just a non story aimed at simpletons.

[beninho]

I dont think k Spooky has  even banned either

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/no-spooky-not-banned-national-theatre-scotland-racism-1639853%3famp=1

Again I dodnt claim it was banned, just tjat some loons thought it was offensive and that maybe it shouldnt be used.

People have extreme views. Some kill politicians of both sides, some are anti vax nutters, some hate guys, Jews, other races and religions. Unfortunately that's the world, but you can't tar everyone that is woke as wrong because of a small group, same as you cant tar every Somalian as a terrorist.

Generally everyone in the world shoukd be a bit woke.

None ofbthose examples relate to being woke

That's my point. Being woke is fine being extreme is a problem. It's in many walks of life. Only an idiot will say I hate woke and base it on some extreme people. Same as hating Somalian based on an extremist.

[superflyweight]

It's a generational thing. My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrassing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'.

[beninho]

It's a generational thing.  My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrassing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'.  

I've heard that somewhere.

[Soul Requiem]

It's a generational thing.  My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrassing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'.  

Lock up your daughters, Keenan is about.

[superflyweight]

It's a generational thing.  My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrassing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'.  

Lock up your daughters, Keenan is about.

Gareth Keenan Invetigates.

[Soul Requiem]

It's a generational thing.  My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrassing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'.  

Lock up your daughters, Keenan is about.

Gareth Keenan Invetigates.  

In honour of the great man, I think this thread should be renamed; 'Interrogation Room'.

[super_realist]

Luckily, I don't think Stonewall has banned the word mother.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/is-lgbtq-charity-stonewall-trying-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father/

I didnt say they were banning it, i said they were encouraging companies to use the term "birthing parent" as a substitute which is hilarious.

I cant see that in the Stonewall response. But even if they used basic terms like that, as a Lgbtq+ company its hardly a surprise or even hilarious.

Whats not a surprise is theyre creating moronic jobs to create "suggestions" on language that they "think" ought to be used "just in case" 0.0001% of a population could be "offended"

What are you on about? And who gives a sh&t.

If no one gives a sh1t, why do Stonewall come out with this crap?

No, who gives a sh&t how a lgbtq+ company deals with its staff. I don't. I really find it hard to be bothered about them, I found it easier to be bothered about media firms twisting things to make people think tge company has an issue with the word Mother, when it's all just a non story aimed at simpletons.

I dont think you inderstand what Stonewall is. They are employed by companies to conduct audits on inclusion and conduct training too on things like gender politics and identity. This isnt just what Stonewall does within its own doors, they could be suggesting the language you use in your institutions.

You might think this sort of stuff is aimed at simpletons but was only last week when white students in a couple of UK Universities were encouraged to tick a box that they acknowledged their white privelege. Its the implication that you might not think youre racist, but youre being told by the uni that you really are.

We have already seen politicians struggling over questions on gender identity and clearly trying not to reveal theor actual opinion but instead flounder over a definition they hope will placate the woke stasi because if you dont think lile they do, by default that must mean youre a bigot and a transphobe.

Its the same thing with immigration, if youre against illegal immigration, you're a racist in these lunatics eyes evem though you are in favour of legal and managed migration.

[JuliusHMarx]

Acknowledging that you benefit from white privilege is not the same as either admitting to or being told that you're racist.

Companies don't have to employ Stonewall. It is their choice.

[super_realist]

Acknowledging that you benefit from white privilege is not the same as either admitting to or being told that you're racist.

Companies don't have to employ Stonewall. It is their choice.

I didnt claim they did have to employ Stonewall, and i'd hope most do not.
I was pointing out to Ben that what they are talking about isnt limited to within the Stonewall office.

Furthermore , why would anyone think that acknowledging white privelege is a required action or even relevant for studying at a University? Of course it had to be St Andrews.

Clearly wokeness is infecting society if institutions are having stonewall in to assess their "thoughts" amd whether our speech meets their prescribed standard.

[beninho]

Of course it was Gareth Keenan. Such a great show. "I think there's been a r*** up their" is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[Mind the windows Tino.]

Of course it was Gareth Keenan. Such a great show. "I think there's been a r*** up their" is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I was having an argument with someone t'other day about this. They were banging on about the US Office being "far superior" than the UK version. I haven't actually seen the US version so couldn't really comment on that but he said he found the UK version "too cringeworthy".

I think you're missing the point you bell end.

[beninho]

Language changes, I'm sure no one on here says the N word, or plenty of over words while at work or other occasions.

The fact Stonewall provide advice on what may or may not be deemed offensive to sone people, im unsure on the problem. But I'm not a hypersensitive person.

What's your answers then realist.

Acknowledging your personal guilt is a useful start point in overcoming unconscious bias

Does equality mean treating everyone the same?'

'It is important to think about and understand our own prejudices and stereotypes so we don't treat someone else unfairly or inappropriately.'

[beninho]

Of course it was Gareth Keenan. Such a great show. "I think there's been a r*** up their" is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I was having an argument with someone t'other day about this. They were banging on about the US Office being "far superior" than the UK version. I haven't actually seen the US version so couldn't really comment on that but he said he found the UK version "too cringeworthy".

I think you're missing the point you bell end.

The US one is good, but it was good after they realised they didn't need to totally copy the uk version. It is funny though.

But its no, Always Sunny in Philadelphia which is one if the greatest comedy shows of all time, and American aswell. And it dies go to show that you can laugh and joke about anything without fear of being cancelled, just do it well.

[JuliusHMarx]

Language changes, I'm sure no one on here says the N word, or plenty of over words while at work or other occasions.

The fact Stonewall provide advice on what may or may not be deemed offensive to sone people, im unsure on the problem. But I'm not a hypersensitive person.

What's your answers then realist.

Acknowledging your personal guilt is a useful start point in overcoming unconscious bias

Does equality mean treating everyone the same?'

'It is important to think about and understand our own prejudices and stereotypes so we don't treat someone else unfairly or inappropriately.'

It's not even personal guilt, just acknowledging that as a white person, chances are you've benefited from the way society is structured, whether you've been aware of it or not. Being more aware of that is a good thing, in any walk of life.

[Soul Requiem]

Of course it was Gareth Keenan. Such a great show. "I think there's been a r*** up their" is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I was having an argument with someone t'other day about this. They were banging on about the US Office being "far superior" than the UK version. I haven't actually seen the US version so couldn't really comment on that but he said he found the UK version "too cringeworthy".

I think you're missing the point you bell end.

The US version is very good but not a patch on the original.

The original needed 14 episodes for us to know the characters inside and out something US comedies are incapable of achieving. The first series is for me the finest bit of comedy writing you will ever find, it is near enough perfect.

[super_realist]

Language changes, I'm sure no one on here says the N word, or plenty of over words while at work or other occasions.

The fact Stonewall provide advice on what may or may not be deemed offensive to sone people, im unsure on the problem. But I'm not a hypersensitive person.

What's your answers then realist.

Acknowledging your personal guilt is a useful start point in overcoming unconscious bias

Does equality mean treating everyone the same?'

'It is important to think about and understand our own prejudices and stereotypes so we don't treat someone else unfairly or inappropriately.'

Making a comparison to the  N word and the use of Mother is really rather amusing.

What possible use is getting students to admit to white privelege have on their ability to study Physics for example? Howndoes a univerosty know you have nenefotted from white privelege? Tell a white working class lad from a single parent from Moss Side hes had white privelege.

Its not a universities place to police thought.

What personal guilt? What personal guilt have any of us got? What are we guilty of?

[McLaren]

Super

I think you are, like me, a white middle class male. Every single one of those identifiers has conferred some advantage to us. Can you really dispute that? If you don't acknowledge that all you are doing is inflating your abilities, and can you really lie to yourself like that?

[super_realist]

Super

I think you are, like me, a white middle class male. Every single one of those identifiers has conferred some advantage to us. Can you really dispute that? If you don't acknowledge that all you are doing is inflating your abilities, and can you really lie to yourself like that?

Even if that is true, why  would  i have to sign a declaration to "admit" that and why should i feel guilt for an accident of Birth simply to be gain access to a university course ?

Do I have British privilege for being born into a first world country? Should i feel guilt for that? Maybe I should have Athlete Guilt for being better at sport tham most people? Should I have hair guilt because I  have hair over those who are bald?  Should I have income guilt because I earn more money than another white middle class male?

Im fine with the knowledge that as someone born in Britain, Europe, the west, a developed country I have advantage over someone who isn't from a country with such resources but why do I have to attest to that in the form of a declaration? Why should I feel guilt for where and when i was born and what my colour is?
Should i feel guilt that Ive been born with certain talents, a healthy body?
Should I feel development guilt that im born in the scientific age and not the dark ages?

[beninho]

Has the university refused a place if soneone doesn't tick the box? I read its been around for ages?

[super_realist]

Has the university refused a place if soneone doesn't tick the box? I read its been around for ages?

Why ask it if they don't?

[beninho]

I'm white middle class. Brought up in London suburbs. Am I guilty about my upbringing. Nope. Am I aware I've probably had more privilege due to being a middle class white male, yep.

Probably the same for most middle class white people

[beninho]

Has the university refused a place if soneone doesn't tick the box? I read its been around for ages?

Why ask it if they don't?

Have you got the answer?

[super_realist]

Has the university refused a place if soneone doesn't tick the box? I read its been around for ages?

Why ask it if they don't?

Have you got the answer?

Apparently its part of an application declaration. Why would a university ask such a question? Whats it got to do with them?

[super_realist]

I'm white middle class. Brought up in London suburbs. Am I guilty about my upbringing. Nope. Am I aware I've probably had more privilege due to being a middle class white male, yep.

Probably the same for most middle class white people

Why did you mention guilt then? You cant be guilty of something you arent responsible for.

Does the richest person in a school, uni, workplace have to admit they have had greater privilege than others? Its absurd.

[beninho]

Has the university refused a place if soneone doesn't tick the box? I read its been around for ages?

Why ask it if they don't?

Have you got the answer?

Apparently its part of an application declaration.  Why would a university ask such a question? Whats it got to do with them?

No idea. I've not applied. It doesn't bother me, and it seeks that it doesn't bother the vast majority of people at the University, according to what they've said. It's been in place for years, and only a handful have raised issues.

It seems a bigger issue for people who haven't applied then for people who have.

[beninho]

I'm white middle class. Brought up in London suburbs. Am I guilty about my upbringing. Nope. Am I aware I've probably had more privilege due to being a middle class white male, yep.

Probably the same for most middle class white people

Why did you mention guilt then? You cant be guilty ofnsomething you arent responsible for.

I haven't.

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