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Post by Duty281 Wed 03 Nov 2021, 12:24 pm

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Blimey, Cross takes five fours off the sixth over. 48/1 after the PP, Scotland still in the game.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:39 pm

Yep Livingstone/Moeen's overs the key here now - NZ need to go hard at them
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:39 pm

So nine behind England at halfway. Only two down but they don't bat as deep so they'll need a lot from these and the next two players.

Wonder if we will see Moeen soon ?

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:40 pm

Good news for NZ is Conway and Mitchell are still there. Bad news is the required rate is steep at 10.9. We know it's tough for a batsman to get going right from ball one, so wickets lost with the rate this high could be fatal.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:43 pm

Wood continues with his third. So the death configuration is set as two Jordan and one each from the two Ws .

And 12-16 will be all spin. NZ will need a few from them...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:44 pm

Wood with a no ball - criminal. Gets away with it
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:46 pm

NZ on the charge now... Fifteen off that over. Just five less than England after 11.


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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:50 pm

Getting to the point now where England need a wicket. Top over for NZ off of Wood, but only 7 from Livingstone's follow-up.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:53 pm

Brilliant from CJ.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:54 pm

Or not. Brilliant effort!

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:57 pm

Livingstone doing a good job : so will we see an over from Moeen just for flexibility?

Rashid back and he's not the easiest to target. Just the same I think England would like another wicket or two. Not going to be easy for new batsmen...

Air Jordan nearly saves a six . But NZ are still well in this at 92/2 and seven overs left.

More Livingstone so Moeen seems to have the night off.

Got him ! Well bowled...Jos will never get an easier stumping . Needed that.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:58 pm

Brilliant from Livingstone, who has been trusted today, as he darts one past Conway. Good change, good bowling, England comfortable again.

Jordan's fielding effort earlier was astonishing, unlucky not to save it.

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 4:59 pm

Huge wicket for Livingstone in the context.

NZ would have been eyeing just under 60 from the last 5. With two set batsman, then Phillips and Neesham to come that wouldn't be out the question with England's iffy death bowling.

Breaking that partnership was very important there I think.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:04 pm

If the Black Caps pull it out of the bag from here, it will be some effort.
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:05 pm

Great over from Livingstone; but NZ are only three runs less than England were after 14 so I'm not calling this yet.

Phillips can hit . Change of plan here with Wood to bowl out early...interesting.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:06 pm

Another ropey day for Wood. Mills injury doesn’t make it a decision if he would play in the final (if England make it) but it doesn’t bode well.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:08 pm

Yes, Wood started well, but faded. Would prefer to see him used in one over bursts.

Livingstone gets another! That's a potentially dangerous hitter removed, no way Billings drops that in the deep.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:08 pm

Twelve per over needed from the last five. Still tight.

Livingstone again Yahoo Phillips won't be hitting any sixes tonight...

Neesham and Mitchell really need to do most of it now. Big ask.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:10 pm

Liam Livingstone with an over that may have turned things very much in England's favour...

Stunning from him today.
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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:11 pm

Superb over from Livingstone...despite the wide. I'll let him off that.

Will Morgan chance Moeen with Neesham there?

Over 12s from here. England really shouldn't lose from this position.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:11 pm

Brilliant stuff from Livingstone clap

Two important wickets ... and a three run over in the 16th ! Surely he's just won England the game ?

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:13 pm

Brilliant from Livingstone. What an addition he's been.

Phillips hasn't been in form but still so important to get as he can score extremely quick.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:14 pm

Jordan having one of those overs we all fear from him.
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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:14 pm

That's a very poor first ball from Jordan. Practically a throw down for range hitting!

Jordan has been good in the tournament so far. England need him to stand up at the death without Archer or Mills.

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:16 pm

Pressure back on England. Now they need another wicket.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:18 pm

This is where England really miss Archer. Horror first half of the over from Jordan.

But that may be the greatest catch in cricketing history...no it's six. Kiwis back in it. It's Boult in the WC final reversed.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:18 pm

Someone stands on the rope whilst taking a catch. We get it. It’s the same teams at 2019.

That was a lot trickier than Boult’s though!

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:18 pm

So close from Bairstow.

This has been an extremely poor over from Jordan. Worst over of the tournament from him.
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Post by VTR Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:19 pm

The over we all feared is probably going to cost the match here. Absolute disaster

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:19 pm

So close from Bairstow.

This has been an extremely poor over from Jordan. Worst over of the tournament from him.
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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:20 pm

Good last ball at least, but NZ back in it. England need further wickets to win it now.

Jordan surely can't bowl another after sending that down?

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:22 pm

Both sides built a platform then were looking for that one huge over. England didn't quite find it but NZ just have.

Pressure all on England now.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:22 pm

Oh dear ...nightmare over from Jordan and game back in the balance...

If Neesham stays in NZ are winning this.

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:24 pm

Not taking that single is exactly why this NZ side is so damn likable.

Next ball out the park too. Neesham has taken it away.

Missed run out chance. Oh dear.

England's only chance is wickets now.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:24 pm

This is very bad from England. NZ big favourites. Two wickets needed asap!

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:24 pm

NZ are winning this for sure. Sixes all over the place and I doubt they'll falter now.

England need a miracle.

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:25 pm

Fifty up to Mitchell.

Pressure has told for England.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:25 pm

Stunning from the Black Caps.

Really feel sorry for Jordan, he has been excellent all tournament but that over has just given the Black Caps all the momentum.

Morgan with the catch...
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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:25 pm

Brilliant knock from Neesham. If they crossed the new bat is on strike too.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:26 pm

England back in it as Neesham plonks a rank delivery to Morgan. Nearly slipped out.

Who on earth bowls 19 and 20? Woakes now to get further wickets?

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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:26 pm

Neesham gone. Definitely still NZs to lose but it's a glimmer of light for England.

Surely Woakes will get the 19th.

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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:26 pm

Neesham out! Rashid keeps the game alive - just.

But how can Jordan bowl again after that last over ? Might need Woakes to take a hat trick...

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Post by Soul Requiem Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:27 pm

Terrible bottle job from England again.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:29 pm

Mitchell has the pace off the wicket now. Picking the back of the length up. Need something special from Woakes or Jordan.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:30 pm

England lose a game they were certain to win. Jordan's horror over cost England, left Woakes too much to do in the 19th. Shocking turn-around.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:31 pm

Fair play to the Black Caps. 

What an effort, really this is something special from them.
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Post by GSC Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:32 pm

Fair play to NZ. Hope they go on and win it after Lords
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:32 pm

Neesham out! Rashid keeps the game alive - just.

But how can Jordan bowl again after that last over ? Might need Woakes to take a hat trick...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:33 pm

VTR wrote:The over we all feared is probably going to cost the match here. Absolute disaster

Yep our fears about England’s death bowling come home to roost - shocking over by Jordan, slot balls literally every delivery and this from Woakes hasn’t been any better.

Fair play to Neesham and Mitchell
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Post by king_carlos Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:33 pm

England's weak death bowling finally telling. Mills was so important once Archer got ruled out.

They were definitely 10-15 runs short of where they should have got to with the bat after a good platform was set.

It's the death bowling that has lost this though.


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Post by GSC Wed 10 Nov 2021, 5:34 pm

From England's perspective, maybe felt the loss of Roy and Mills a bit? But in this format, it's gonna be tight margins, and they haven't played badly, just NZ had Neesham to play the game changing innings
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