6 Nations Round 4 - England v Ireland

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 28 Feb 2022 - 4:34

First topic message reminder :

England v Ireland

Twickers, London
Saturday 12th March 2022
Kick Off - 1645hrs

England team

Ireland team

by Soul Requiem Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:49

No 7&1/2 wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:https://twitter.com/smallclone_/status/1502692190555975681?s=21

This wasn’t reviewed? Furlong pretty lucky.
Jonker. Probably a high pen to low yellow though.

Direct reckless contact to the head so a Red going by the laws, we all know that would be a nonsense though.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:50

Johnny isn't a great pundit it must be said. Johnson's not a whole lot better either.

We're finally shorn of Guscott's drivel and that's the new blood! Laugh

by Heaf Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:50

But you can't go by the laws for one incident and not another ... makes it look like bias Rolling Eyes

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:51

Malins meh....

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:51

Arghhh. Why force it there. Don't shovel s***.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:51

Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:https://twitter.com/smallclone_/status/1502692190555975681?s=21

This wasn’t reviewed? Furlong pretty lucky.
Jonker. Probably a high pen to low yellow though.

Direct reckless contact to the head so a Red going by the laws, we all know that would be a nonsense though.

My interpretation of it is that Slade is slipping or ducking into it though. You disagree?

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:53

Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:https://twitter.com/smallclone_/status/1502692190555975681?s=21

This wasn’t reviewed? Furlong pretty lucky.
Jonker. Probably a high pen to low yellow though.

Direct reckless contact to the head so a Red going by the laws, we all know that would be a nonsense though.

As Marchant grows, Malins shrinks. No giggling at the back.

by EnglishReign Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:53

Where did our advantage go?

by EnglishReign Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:54

Malins is not an international. He shouldn’t get another cap after this tournament.

by Heaf Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:54

Where was the advantage from that knock-on before the pen to Ireland - England were always under pressure ..

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:56

When Ireland have the ball that man down is showing. They are either finding space in the fringes or wide. England are defending very well in the circumstances but you can't plug all the gaps forever with that man down. Especially having lost our best defender in Curry as well.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:56

Heaf wrote:Where was the advantage from that knock-on before the pen to Ireland - England were always under pressure ..

Wasn't it the second ruck though hence where advantage was over?

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:57

Nowell has had a monster of a game

by Soul Requiem Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:57

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:https://twitter.com/smallclone_/status/1502692190555975681?s=21

This wasn’t reviewed? Furlong pretty lucky.
Jonker. Probably a high pen to low yellow though.

Direct reckless contact to the head so a Red going by the laws, we all know that would be a nonsense though.
My interpretation of it is that Slade is slipping or ducking into it though. You disagree?

His body position lowers after contact not before.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:58

Meh Randall should be keeping the ball. It's not about pressure it's about keeping it

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:58

Short knock on advantages are fairly normal. The ruck being formed and jackal not being on the ball are a touch more frustrating.

George is throwing brilliantly. Ireland are competing well but he's throwing those lobs excellently.

And that is poor from Steward to let that bounce...

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:58

The Irish scrum has been awful, didn't see that coming.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:58

Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:https://twitter.com/smallclone_/status/1502692190555975681?s=21

This wasn’t reviewed? Furlong pretty lucky.
Jonker. Probably a high pen to low yellow though.

Direct reckless contact to the head so a Red going by the laws, we all know that would be a nonsense though.
My interpretation of it is that Slade is slipping or ducking into it though. You disagree?

His body position lowers after contact not before.

It doesn't give it another look. Looks like he falling into it .
Should have been reviewed though.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 17:59

Brilliant hit from Simmonds to be fair. I've been critical of him but that is a fantastic hit exactly when England needed something.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:00

Marler and Launchbury to come for impact on that scrum too...

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:00

No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:01

It's done pretty well with Sinckler hasn't it...

by majesticimperialman Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:01

What is happening to Ireland's scrum?

by Soul Requiem Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:01

GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

We were dominant when he was on the pitch too.

by Heaf Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:02

The entire Irish line was offside there

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:02

Malins got outpaced by Stewsrd there.....

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:02

Brilliant chase. That is fantastic.

Marchant is having a stormer.

by mid_gen Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:02

Marchant has been magnificent....

by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:03

All the runner were ahead of Marcus Smiths kick, no consistency

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:03

Genge is destroying Furlong's "worlds best tighthead" reputation, he's had him on toast. Genge's best game I've seen.

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:03

Soul Requiem wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

We were dominant when he was on the pitch too.

Whey no....Dominant is a strong word.....

by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:03

king_carlos wrote:Brilliant chase. That is fantastic.

Marchant is having a stormer.

At least 3 offside

by Heaf Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:03

Why is Randall off?

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:04

GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

Yeah hate to repeat the previous but we've consistently won pens bar the first one against Genge where it looked like Furlong collapsed anyway.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:05

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Genge is destroying Furlong's "worlds best tighthead" reputation, he's had him on toast. Genge's best game I've seen.

George is a very good scrummaging hooker and Healy whilst still a good player not quite the force he once was to be fair. Scrum battles are never as simple as TH vs LH conversations.

by Soul Requiem Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:05

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

We were dominant when he was on the pitch too.

Whey no....Dominant is a strong word.....

3 scrum penalties in one half is quite dominant.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:05

Just put that back in the air and compete Freddie. Inexperience.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:06

Heaf wrote:Why is Randall off?

His fitness is questionable....I'm not sure he can keep up the tempo past 60mins.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:06

Soul Requiem wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....

We were dominant when he was on the pitch too.

Whey no....Dominant is a strong word.....

3 scrum penalties in one half is quite dominant.

As many as the Boks got in a half during the RWC final that most tried to largely put down to Mako's scrummaging...

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:06

No 7&1/2 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....
Yeah hate to repeat the previous but we've consistently won pens bar the first one against Genge where it looked like Furlong collapsed anyway.

Down to loose head side not the tight head

by Soul Requiem Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:07

Genge is having a monster of a game so far, his best by far.

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:08

GeordieFalcon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....
Yeah hate to repeat the previous but we've consistently won pens bar the first one against Genge where it looked like Furlong collapsed anyway.

Down to loose head side not the tight head

Well OK. But it was furlong being pinged. Of course its a team effort. But sorry the pack as a whole has been fantastic from the off. Including Lawes.

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:08

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Heaf wrote:Why is Randall off?

His fitness is questionable....I'm not sure he can keep up the tempo past 60mins.

He had another good game though. Fitness will come with time in the international set-up.

I really like that Randall has found his own role in the defensive system. Youngs is a good cover defender and will sometimes cover for high balls in the back three. Randall is an absolute pest around the fringes and he's started doing that a bit more. Promising signs.

by tigertattie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:08

Can England pull this off?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

king_carlos wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Genge is destroying Furlong's "worlds best tighthead" reputation, he's had him on toast. Genge's best game I've seen.

George is a very good scrummaging hooker and Healy whilst still a good player not quite the force he once was to be fair. Scrum battles are never as simple as TH vs LH conversations.

No, but your scrum is anchored from the TH. His inability to control Genge is allowing our TH to really get at Healy. The aerial views show this nicely.

by Heaf Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

Didn't Ireland pull the SH into the ruck there?

by LeinsterFan4life Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

Is there any way we can get hendo off the pitch?

by No 7&1/2 Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

England looking for a back move here?

by Geordie Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

No 7&1/2 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....
Yeah hate to repeat the previous but we've consistently won pens bar the first one against Genge where it looked like Furlong collapsed anyway.

Down to loose head side not the tight head
Well OK. But it was furlong being pinged. Of course its a team effort. But sorry the pack as a whole has been fantastic from the off. Including Lawes.

The pack are geing superb....Simmonds , Genge and Itoje leading the way....

by king_carlos Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 18:09

GeordieFalcon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:No surprise...no sinckler and our scrum does well....
Yeah hate to repeat the previous but we've consistently won pens bar the first one against Genge where it looked like Furlong collapsed anyway.

Down to loose head side not the tight head

Both sides need to be driven back or it's reset these days. We know you want everyone to think Sinckler is a TH version of Tim Payne but the scrum has dominant on both sides today!

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