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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 30 Jun 2022, 9:22 am

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With Bath enduring a terrible season how many tries has Cokonasiga scored?

In five starts and four sub appearances he's bagged five tries. One appearance and one try for England.

It's a bench lacking experience but it's the type of players we'd like to have as options come the world cup.

Ignore the front row that pretty much picked itself.

Chessum - covers lock and 6 highly mobile and physical, good lineout option and we've been desperate for a young lock to come through.

Ludlam - covers 8 and 7 which is what the bench needs, club captain so adds much needed leadership here.

JVP - no one likes the current 9 options for last season's Under 20 captain and player of the J6N gets a chance. Best kicking game of the three 9s on tour and likes to play high tempo.

Porter - covers every position in the backs outside of 9 and 10, could probably do a job on the flank as well. Eddie likes a versatility option as they very much help the overall squad come world cup so audition time for Guy.

Arundell - exciting young player, not ready yet but Eddie will be hoping some international game time might speed up his development. Unlikely starter but potential game changer off the bench, always handy to have one of those at a world cup. Porter's inclusion means Arundell won't have to go in early unless there's multiple injuries.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:13 pm

I despair with England sometimes. Chance to put pressure on and they join the ruck incorrectly and then high shot, any pressure exerted is gone.
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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:14 pm

Silly penalty from England offset by a silly penalty from Australia
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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:16 pm

Nowell is justifying his selection today. Playing really well.
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:16 pm

The England replacement 9 is so much better than Care.

He made a huge difference last week - why was he dropped this week?

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm

RDW wrote:The England replacement 9 is so much better than Care.

He made a huge difference last week - why was he dropped this week?

Eddie is gonna Eddie...
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Post by Heaf Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm

RDW wrote:The England replacement 9 is so much better than Care.

He made a huge difference last week - why was he dropped this week?

Eddie Jones ...

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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm

Laugh

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Post by Duty281 Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:20 pm

Genge, Nowell and Van scrum-half having a superb start to this half.

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:20 pm

Much better sequence of play from England. We can hope they are growing into the game. And the ref spots Hooper interfering with JVP. Will wonders never cease?
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:20 pm

That was pretty stupid from someone of Hooper's experience. Wallabies giving away a lot of penalties for taking out past the ruck.

Baby rhino on the rampage too!

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:23 pm

Is England going back to channel 1 Rugby more and more?


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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:23 pm

LCD on the ground when he turned over there. Lots getting missed in this game.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:25 pm

We really need to get more that a try ahead, our wide defence just looks so fragile.
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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:26 pm

I reckon this will get checked... There was a knock on at the lineout.
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:26 pm

That could be the game

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:27 pm

Cumbrian wrote:I reckon this will get checked... There was a knock on at the lineout.

I guess not then!


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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:27 pm

Apparently they won’t. One loose ball is enough for Smith
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Post by Duty281 Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:27 pm

Grand stuff. Two series victories for the men of t'north.

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:28 pm

Still a lot of time to go, but England getting some momentum. Need to be careful not to let it swing back to Australia
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:28 pm

Wallabies haven't fired a shot in the last 30 minutes

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:31 pm

Mako getting done in the scrum. Lucky to turn it over, he needs to do better in this one.
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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:32 pm

The Aussie commentators just said the way to beat England is up the middle. That is not good.

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:32 pm

Great maul defence there. Need a good scrum now
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Post by George Carlin Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:32 pm

RDW wrote:Wallabies haven't fired a shot in the last 30 minutes
And that from a jock who lives in Australia.
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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:33 pm

Mako is a dangerous liability where the scrum is concerned. Lucky not to get pinged there
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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:35 pm

That’s ba poor call. Smith had moved as far as he could with the player lying on top of him
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:36 pm

The JVP - Steward kicking/chasing combo could form the basis of England's gameplan for many years to come

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Post by Heaf Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:36 pm

Going back a bit but not sure why Hill holding on to White after tackling him was a pen but Porecki holding Smith is fine ...

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:36 pm

How was that not called as a double movement?
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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:37 pm

10 has got to roll away? Smith was on our side of the ruck!
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:37 pm

Poorfour wrote:That’s ba poor call. Smith had moved as far as he could with the player lying on top of him

Yeah see those calls every game. If you're on the wrong side it's gonna be a pen.

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:38 pm

Ref’s arm only going one way at the moment
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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:39 pm

RDW wrote:
Poorfour wrote:That’s ba poor call. Smith had moved as far as he could with the player lying on top of him

Yeah see those calls every game. If you're on the wrong side it's gonna be a pen.

Except he wasn’t. He was on his own side of the ruck with one arm trapped under the player.
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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

We really need to do better with this restart, pin them down in their 22.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

If Jones turns out to be right about taking Care off early, it will highlight how much he boxed himself in at the last World Cup, keeping Youngs on, because Spencer had only just arrived in Japan. You can only make big calls when you trust the other players in your squad.

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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

One of those weird occasions when Australia may have been better not to have scored in that phase as there was an England yellow coming!

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Post by Poorfour Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

If England do win this, the Aussies won’t have any real cause to moan about the officials.
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Post by Heaf Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:41 pm

Is this ref the NZ version of Karl Dickson?

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:42 pm

Luther Burrell sends his best to Danny Care

https://twitter.com/lutherburrell/status/1548262447852560393

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:43 pm

Heaf wrote:Is this ref the NZ version of Karl Dickson?
True, but England are their own worst enemy here.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:44 pm

England shouldn't have kicked possession, but another monumentally forward pass.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:45 pm

Arundell on, a run from behind the try line?
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Post by Heaf Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:46 pm

Duty281 wrote:England shouldn't have kicked possession, but another monumentally forward pass.

These officials are the absolute worst I've seen for ages ... completely blind to Oz passes going miles forwards

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:47 pm

Lawes is a diamond, how many turnovers does he come up with???
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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:48 pm

Wallabies apparently forgetting you need to actually commit men to rucks

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Post by Heaf Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:49 pm

Attacking scrum for England on Oz 22 replaced by an attacking line-out on England 5m line courtesy of blind officials ...

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:52 pm

This is going to be a nail-biter...
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Post by Cumbrian Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:52 pm

Got to see this out now.
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Post by Duty281 Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:53 pm

Tremendous defensive effort from England, against a powerful opposition that is allowed to pass forwards.

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Post by RDW Sat 16 Jul 2022, 12:53 pm

This has bee a huge defensive shift from England.

Wallabies not showing much variety though, and again not committing enough men to the rucks.

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