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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:07 am

First topic message reminder :

We're now just over a fortnight out from the qualifying round, and team news is ever changing around the teams in the tournament.

Unfortunately today Jasprit Bumrah has been ruled out of the tournament (and a while after) with a back injury. Big blow to India that one, and a World Cup with no Archer/Bumrah (arguably the two best t20 fast bowlers in the world) is a huge shame
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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:55 am

159, I think that puts Pakistan ahead at halfway, and a very impressive total from 98/5 when 130 looked in doubt. Only three players in double-digit scores, as well.

India don't bat very deep so early wickets are even more crucial. Expecting Shaheen to find prodigious swing early on.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:05 am

Pak worked themselves to a Par score....
an over from Axar and a bit of foot off the pedal from India helped them

I would still put Ind 60-40 ahead....pak have ton bowl 8 overs of spin
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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:17 am

Early wicket for Naseem.

Already seen so many played-on dismissals at this tournament.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:26 am

Surya and Kohli against the Pakistan seam attack? Yes I’ll subscribe
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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:35 am

Surya is definitely the wicket that Pakistan need.

Rauf gets him thumbsup

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:36 am

Huge wicket to get Yadav. Some brilliant pace bowling in this PowerPlay.

India are done.

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:38 am

This one has swung back and forth , eh ? Pakistan did well to get to 159 in the end and right now with three down for peanuts in the power play it's looking like a winning score.

So presumably India will now race to victory with overs to spare Smile

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:53 am

Someone tell Kohli this game isn't a 50-over affair.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:54 am

Well that is 4 of the 8 overs of spin done with very little damage done.

Very much advantage Pakistan now.

What a match Very Happy

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:55 am

alfie wrote:This one has swung back and forth , eh ?  Pakistan did well to get to 159 in the end and right now with three down for peanuts in the power play it's looking like a winning score.

So presumably India will now race to victory with overs to spare Smile

Not much since the last part of the second quarter, alfie...  or from around about the 17th over.
It's been pretty much all one-way traffic in favour of Pakistan since then, I'd say.

So India 115 runs off the last 10 overs. That's quite a tall order!

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:11 pm

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alfie wrote:This one has swung back and forth , eh ?  Pakistan did well to get to 159 in the end and right now with three down for peanuts in the power play it's looking like a winning score.

So presumably India will now race to victory with overs to spare Smile

Not much since the last part of the second quarter, alfie...  or from around about the 17th over.
It's been pretty much all one-way traffic in favour of Pakistan since then, I'd say.

So India 115 runs off the last 10 overs. That's quite a tall order!


Well certainly all Pakistan once they started bowling...meant the down and up and down and up Pakistan innings really Smile

Still time for a miraculous Indian onslaught though. Have seen some remarkable chases in this format so I'm not calling it yet.

Not putting money on India , mind.... If one of these two gets out I reckon it's curtains for them. Apart from that NZ innings , this WC has been mostly bowler dominated so far...

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:15 pm

Shadab, take a bow. On a non spinner friendly track that is a great return.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:20 pm

60 needed off 30, it's getting tighter. Pakistan still have one over to come from Nawaz, which could be problematic, but India only really have Karthik to come after these.

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:27 pm

Very good over from Rauf then 👋

Just about assures a Pakistan win , surely ? This ground is too big for a barrage of sixes to finish it ... India have too much to do.

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:35 pm

Hmm. Shaheen Afridi lost it a bit there...keeps the game alive - just about.

31 off two ? Not impossible...

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:36 pm

Shaheen hasn't been on it today. Still got that one over from Nawaz so a huge decision coming up for the captain.

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:40 pm

Rauf had four great balls then...but the last two disappeared !

Suddenly it's Game On ! No pressure , Nawaz Smile

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:47 pm

All happening ! Wickets , sixes , no ball now ?

Wouldn't be a WC without controversy Wink

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:53 pm

Think Kohli made a mistake taking that third run...should have kept the strike !

Last ball to come , new batsman Ashwin has to get bat on ball...

A wide !!

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:55 pm

India back from the dead...Virat Kohli , take a bow thumbsup

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:56 pm

Massive from Kholi, what an innings clap

Horrible composure from Nawaz, seriously bad.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:56 pm

Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Unbelievable drama as India complete an amazing comeback, and it continues an astonishing tournament. Pakistan really messed up their bowling choices. They essentially gambled on having the game won by the end of the 19th over, but you can't do that, and you can't have a situation where the fifth-bowling spinner (who's already gone for a few) is bowling the last.

In some ways Pakistan were unfortunate. I don't think the no-ball call was right and the three byes that resulted from hitting the stumps on the free hit...I don't think I've seen that before! I hope the umpires got it right as they didn't seem too sure! Nawaz shouldn't have been bowling the last, and I did feel sympathy for him, but bowling that far down the leg side on what should have been the last delivery was unforgivable.

Kohli was immense after a ponderous start and that may have been his finest innings for India. Pandya struggled to play in his usual style, but did enough to stay with him in an anchor role. I was very impressed by Naseem and Rauf, also, but Shaheen didn't turn up and his 0/34 was perhaps a key difference. Pakistan are on the precipice now, though they may take some heart from scoring 159 with practically no contribution from their usually reliable openers.

Mad game. Mad 20th over. Doubt we'll see a better game all tournament.


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Post by VTR Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Incredible finish, but what a terrible final over. Two wides and a no ball in there, top level choking

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:05 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

No reason it should be dead ball on a free hit ... If the batsman is caught in the outfield off it the runs still count so I suppose the same applies to other dismissal forms : unlucky for the bowling team though for the ball to deflect for three !

Arguably didn't matter tonight as if Kohli had stayed on strike I'd have backed him to take the last two balls for six runs anyway . But that crazy last over sort of had a touch of the "Ben Stokes against NZ in the 50 over WC final " about it ...lots of improbable things happening ...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:09 pm

alfie wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

No reason it should be dead ball on a free hit ... If the batsman is caught in the outfield off it the runs still count so I suppose the same applies to other dismissal forms : unlucky for the bowling team though for the ball to deflect for three !

Arguably didn't matter tonight as if Kohli had stayed on strike I'd have backed him to take the last two balls for six runs anyway . But that crazy last over sort of had a touch of the "Ben Stokes against NZ in the 50 over WC final " about it ...lots of improbable things happening ...

Except that match ended in a tie and not a win. A bit of a difference.

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:14 pm

One can be critical of Nawaz for those wides under pressure : but as Duty says , he really shouldn't have been bowling the last over. Did get Hardik out too...and bowling at an on fire Kohli with the game on the line was a tough assignment...

In fairness to him , the two previous overs went for the same - and didn't claim any wickets.

You could say Pakistan blew it : but I think I'd prefer to praise Kohli for just refusing to lie down...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:17 pm

I think we're all praising Kohli for his master innings.

We're just waiting for KP_fan to concur with us. Smile

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:21 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
alfie wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

No reason it should be dead ball on a free hit ... If the batsman is caught in the outfield off it the runs still count so I suppose the same applies to other dismissal forms : unlucky for the bowling team though for the ball to deflect for three !

Arguably didn't matter tonight as if Kohli had stayed on strike I'd have backed him to take the last two balls for six runs anyway . But that crazy last over sort of had a touch of the "Ben Stokes against NZ in the 50 over WC final " about it ...lots of improbable things happening ...

Except that match ended in a tie and not a win. A bit of a difference.

Well , actually led to a super over and a peculiar tiebreak rule if you want to split hairs Smile But the "unusual sequence of of events" comparison doesn't seem unreasonable...

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:28 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
alfie wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

No reason it should be dead ball on a free hit ... If the batsman is caught in the outfield off it the runs still count so I suppose the same applies to other dismissal forms : unlucky for the bowling team though for the ball to deflect for three !

Arguably didn't matter tonight as if Kohli had stayed on strike I'd have backed him to take the last two balls for six runs anyway . But that crazy last over sort of had a touch of the "Ben Stokes against NZ in the 50 over WC final " about it ...lots of improbable things happening ...

Except that match ended in a tie and not a win. A bit of a difference.

Well , actually led to a super over and a peculiar tiebreak rule if you want to split hairs Smile But the "unusual sequence of of events" comparison doesn't seem unreasonable...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:28 pm

alfie wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:
alfie wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Wow... that game had everything. Pakistan definitely blew that at the end. Amazing knock form Kohli to achieve the almost impossible.

So when a batsman is bowled on a free hit it's not a dead ball and you can take a run or three? I'd never considered that scenario so I guess I've learned something new today.

No reason it should be dead ball on a free hit ... If the batsman is caught in the outfield off it the runs still count so I suppose the same applies to other dismissal forms : unlucky for the bowling team though for the ball to deflect for three !

Arguably didn't matter tonight as if Kohli had stayed on strike I'd have backed him to take the last two balls for six runs anyway . But that crazy last over sort of had a touch of the "Ben Stokes against NZ in the 50 over WC final " about it ...lots of improbable things happening ...

Except that match ended in a tie and not a win. A bit of a difference.

Well , actually led to a super over and a peculiar tiebreak rule if you want to split hairs Smile   But the "unusual sequence of of events" comparison doesn't seem unreasonable...

Still a tie and then that dreadful count-back rule. Perhaps one of those awful bowl-offs would have been better?

I'm not sure one can compare the unusual sequence of events. In one the ball came off Stokes' bat; in the other it came off the stumps. Two very different scenarios to be fair. Smile

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Post by alfie Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:29 pm

Pal Joey wrote:I think we're all praising Kohli for his master innings.

We're just waiting for KP_fan to concur with us. Smile

He's probably still recovering ...

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Post by eirebilly_01 Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:44 pm

Well, i am disappointed with the result but hey ho.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:32 pm

Two rather prosaic games tomorrow - Bangladesh v Netherlands and South Africa v Zimbabwe.

Looks like there could be some rain around for those games. It would be a sizable setback for South Africa if they were to drop a point due to the rain.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:43 pm

Unbelievable game - missed it live but seen the India innings on highlights now, and just thrilling cricket. Pakistan will be kicking themselves for not closing that out!

This tournament is off to a really fantastic start
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Post by KP_fan Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:33 pm

I had to get away from live TV for last 5 overs of Indian innings....but followed  on CI with my heart jumping out
Came back to find last 3 overs footage...and boy it was overwhelming
As heart-stopping as a game in any sport could get for a such a big chunk of humanity.

Redemption for kohli...who many ( me strongly) had written off as having declined for good

India's tactics and team selection was as good under the circumstances
They brought shami who hits 140+ instead of H. Patel's medium pace for Bumrah

and have Ashwin +Axar as spinners who can bat to plug the hole left behind by Jadeja
Chahal is a muck with the bat and ain't exceptional when ball is not gripping...so Ashwin is a good choice, but needs to be hidden at fine or deep square leg as a fielder.

Ind's chase was further complicated by the first ball R.O of Axar....he is capable with the bat against spin and medium pace...and was sent into get a 20odd off 10 balls against Pak spinners
And Ind also don't want to expose DK until the last 3 to 4 overs...that set their assault back for too late...but boy they did plunder 48 off last 3 some how

But what a game
and what an overwhelming joy to finish on the winning side

Ind will need to watch KL over next two games closely else be ready to bring in Pant.

PS* and 160 is a par score when top sides play each other on these Aussie pitches
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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:26 am

The Dutch are doing a very good job here against Bangladesh.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:44 am

Very decent to keep Bangladesh down to 144. Some shambolic batting helped the Dutch though.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:18 am

Savage start to the chase from Nederlands. Firstly 2 wickets back to back then two absolutely shocking run outs with O'Dowd being the last man run out.

Game already well and truly over.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:46 am

Well that got a lot closer than i thought possible. Well done the Dutch thumbsup

An excellent win for Bangladesh though, very deserved.

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Post by KP_fan Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:53 am

I saw some of the BD game.
Expectations are off BD to be a challenger to the Big-3 in their group for a s.f spot
They ended up barely staving off the challenge from NED
Ned's bowling is quite handy......an was good to see them compete
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Post by Duty281 Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:36 am

No surprise about the Dutch, they'd struggle to chase anything above 120, they have a very curious batting line-up.

Looks like rain will claim SA/Zim which would be hurtful to SA, dropping a point in one they'd have probably considered a banker to win.

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:46 am

Looking less and less likely there will be any play. South Africa really do not have the best runs in situations like this do they. I feel very sorry for them.

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Post by Duty281 Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:54 am

Only one game tomorrow - Aus v SL - and the weather looks perfectly fine for that. Must win for Australia.

Wednesday, however, the current forecast for Melbourne, where Ireland play England and NZ play Afghanistan, does not look promising at all. Friday looks wet as well, when Aus are supposed to play England.

Still, these forecasts seem to change hour-by-hour, so maybe things will be alright. Definitely not alright in today's game, though, I expect it to be called off soon.

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Post by Duty281 Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:24 am

Interesting...9 over game starting in about ten minutes, if the rain stays away!

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:28 am

If they start playing then they can play through the drizzle.

9 overs may be entertaining though.

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Post by Duty281 Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:36 am

The shorter the game then the greater the chance of an upset.

Batting first might be an impediment, but let's see if Zimbabwe can swing their way up to 100 and pile the pressure on South Africa.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 am

Duty281 wrote:The shorter the game then the greater the chance of an upset.

Batting first might be an impediment, but let's see if Zimbabwe can swing their way up to 100 and pile the pressure on South Africa.

Bizarre they chose to bat first with the weather around!!
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Post by Duty281 Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:25 pm

Zimbabwe get 79. Torrid start but Madavhere swung them up to something respectable. Also got to see five penalty runs and the worst review of the tournament!

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Post by eirebilly_01 Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:28 pm

This may not be that easy...

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