What is a REALISTIC price for Charlie Adam ?

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According to most newspapers Charlie Adam will be leaving Blackpool for either Liverpool or Aston Villa this week .

My question is how much can Blackpool realistically think they can get for him given he only has under a year left on his contract ? in january both Liverpool and Spurs offered in the region of £6 million to which Ian holloway said he was worth £45 million to Blackpool to aide them in staying up .

Now they are in the championship and Adam has stated he wants to leave to play in the Premiership what will the price be that sees him leave

I'd say 6-8. But he's def not man u class.

[quote="invincibleILeak (CL-6WF)"]I think he's worth around the £5-8 million mark. I don't think we need him though.

Fernando, I very much doubt Meireles will leave, he was one of our top players last year and was in the first team for a long time.

Mate of mine has just text me saying strong rumour Inter Milan have asked about Meireles in possible swap for Et'o . Dont know how true it is but hes usually not far off the mark.

Eto'o should be in the Prem by now, cant see that deal but it would be fantastic, Eto'o has just banged in 36 goals for Inter, surprised they'd let him go for someone like Meireles

Deal suppose to be £20 - 25 million so would probabley be Meireles plus cash ? Agree id love to see Et'o at Anfield , dont know how long he has left on Inter contract maybe explain them letting him go .

He went there in 09, Eto'o is a game changer, he can win a team the title

I'd heard earlier that Eto'o has stated he's in talks with an English club and expects the move to go through very soon.
I expected it to be City, Chelsea or Spurs, cracking buy for Liverpool if they pull it off!

I got to know my mate Les through ebay he sells autographs .He spends a lot of time at melwood , hes got to know a few of the staff over the years and always lets me know if theres a new rumour passed on . Like i said theres usually some truth to it even if they dont always happen .
Would love this to be one though that does .

Eto'o would be an asset to any side I hope he doesn't end up at Liverpool , Chelsea or City

I said last week Eto'o is the one guy I think could replace Tevez ie he did leave City, can't believe Inter managed to get €40m + him for Ibrahimavic

Didnt think it deserved its own feed but just seen Liverpools new 3rd kit for next season . White with blue detail , what ? blue on a Liverpool kit ?

thats the yanks influence

your right there , think the sponsers have had a say as its there trading colours

Charlie Adam is worth in the region of £10-15 Million. This is because of his fantastic eye for a pass, footballing brain and gifted ability.

Yes, he was playing in weak team at Blackpool but didn't that just highlight what a good player he is? It's alright playing well in a title winning side with superstars around you but to be able to put in great performances like he did almost every week when the players around you are of Championship quality was astonishing.

He obviously doesn't want to stay at Blackpool but in the current transfer climate, the seasiders will hold out for as much as they can get for him. He will do a job in any team and will replace the likes of Scholes at Man Utd. Giggs won't play every game next season and so he will need a replacement also.

Very good buy for any top 6 Premier League side.

He's no better than Nolan, Barton imo. I'm a toon fan and watched them play every week last year, they were awesome, he never scored nowhere near as many as Nolan from open play either, weren't about 10 of his goals pens?. Didn't he also go missing for a spell at a crucial stage of the season? . Our lads were england class all season long but ignored by a bent Italian in charge. I'd say just under what Nolan went for, because he's not as good, or Barton.

Giggs won't play every game next season and so he will need a replacement also.
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Giggs is a fast winger, Adam is a slow midfielder who can play in the centre or just behind the strikers in his best role

Giggs has barely played on the wing for 3 years, he has been playing central for quite some time now

Young_Towzer wrote:He's no better than Nolan, Barton imo. I'm a toon fan and watched them play every week last year, they were awesome, he never scored nowhere near as many as Nolan from open play either, weren't about 10 of his goals pens?. Didn't he also go missing for a spell at a crucial stage of the season? . Our lads were england class all season long but ignored by a bent Italian in charge. I'd say just under what Nolan went for, because he's not as good, or Barton.

Are you honestly that biased? I seem to remember your thread about how Barton and Nolan should be in the England side got ripped apart.

Are you honestly that biased? I seem to remember your thread about how Barton and Nolan should be in the England side got ripped apart.
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Biased? Nolan and Barton have done it the premiership for years, and are both better players, Nolan's an Hammers player now, and they have comfortably the best midfielder in the championship, Adam has had 1 season in the premiership, went cold at a vital point of the season and scored about 10 penalties, whereas Nolan got 12, who's done it for longer and produced it longer in the premiership Adam or Barton and Nolan? i thought Barton and Nolan too.

I think you need to take the blinkers off mate.

Charlie Adam for a start off can't really be judged on the amount of goals he scores, he's a deep lying playmaker, Kevin Nolan is a box to box, perhaps even an attacking midfielder, he's naturally going to score more goals. If Nolan is better than Adam, why have no big clubs ever come in for Nolan? As much as you may think Charlie Adam is a poor player, if the rumors are to be believed some very successful managers think different, while the only person who really thinks Kevin Nolan is Sam Allardyce, and if he was at a top club, I doubt even he would sign up Nolan.

Fair enough Barton and Nolan had good years last year, but for most of their careers they have hardly been top class. Joey Barton has ruined his own career with his stupid reputation, and last year was his first good season since his City days. As for Kevin Nolan, he played well for Bolton about four years ago then started to struggle again, he revived his career at Newcastle, but I think at Championship level he is comfortable, as he becomes a much better player in the division below. Not a chance are either international level.

I don't think it's too unrealistic to value Charlie Adam in the current enviroment at around £10 million, if we ignore the fact he is in his last year of contract. Nolan has just been sold for £1.5 million, but is probably worth around £4 million, and Joey Barton is only really worth around £5 million. Obviously they are just estimates, but I don't think that there is any undervaluation.

I think you need to take the blinkers off mate.

Charlie Adam for a start off can't really be judged on the amount of goals he scores, he's a deep lying playmaker, Kevin Nolan is a box to box, perhaps even an attacking midfielder, he's naturally going to score more goals. If Nolan is better than Adam, why have no big clubs ever come in for Nolan? As much as you may think Charlie Adam is a poor player, if the rumors are to be believed some very successful managers think different, while the only person who really thinks Kevin Nolan is Sam Allardyce, and if he was at a top club, I doubt even he would sign up Nolan.

Fair enough Barton and Nolan had good years last year, but for most of their careers they have hardly been top class. Joey Barton has ruined his own career with his stupid reputation, and last year was his first good season since his City days. As for Kevin Nolan, he played well for Bolton about four years ago then started to struggle again, he revived his career at Newcastle, but I think at Championship level he is comfortable, as he becomes a much better player in the division below. Not a chance are either international level.

I don't think it's too unrealistic to value Charlie Adam in the current enviroment at around £10 million, if we ignore the fact he is in his last year of contract. Nolan has just been sold for £1.5 million, but is probably worth around £4 million, and Joey Barton is only really worth around £5 million. Obviously they are just estimates, but I don't think that there is any undervaluation.
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Barton was awesome last season, and has been good for Newcastle, i go week in week out, you don't.

Nolan has scored goals in the premiership, worked his socks off and produced the goods year after year, 01/02, 02/03, 03/04, 04/05, 05/06, 06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 10/11. He has rarely failed to get into double figures, nobody interested in Nolan lol? do me a favour. Kev is a quality player, he also went for £4 million. Barton didn't have a bad game last year i don't think, and he also is a better player imo. Adam should score more from open play he plays in the hole and just behind the front two. I wouldn't have him at Newcastle, i'm not saying he's poor, he is a good player but £15 mill? do me a favour, that's what he's valued at. If Barton isn't good enough for England why is Barry in there? he can't run, i thought it's for improving, Barton's twice what he'll ever be or ever been so should be in.

Kevin Nolan has only got into double figures twice before coming to us- and that was about 5 or 6 years ago where he could run. He's also never made more than 4 assists at the top level. If Nolan was rated so highly in the Premier League then more clubs would have been willing to pay his wages.

I think you'll find Barton had a couple of bad games, but was good for the majority. Barton will never play for England because of his reputation and he's too old to make an impact on future squads.

03-04 he got 12, 05-06 he got 11, i maybe got carried away saying he got double every year, but he is better than Adam imo. I don't agree about too old, he's 28 and better than Barry or Jagielka or other fringe players imo

Yeah and in one of those seasons he had to rely on goals in Europe to get double figures. He didn't bring much to the team apart from poaching knockdowns from Carroll and he always looked knackered after 70 minutes. I'd rather have a player that plays dangerous passes into other attackers rather than seemingly doing nothing. I'm not saying I want Adam at Newcastle as I think he's a bit overrated and has bigger clubs willing to pay more.

Plus Jagielka is a CB so that's completely different. And Barry has international experience and will fill a space due to that, Barton doesn't.

Yeah and in one of those seasons he had to rely on goals in Europe to get double figures. He didn't bring much to the team apart from poaching knockdowns from Carroll and he always looked knackered after 70 minutes. I'd rather have a player that plays dangerous passes into other attackers rather than seemingly doing nothing. I'm not saying I want Adam at Newcastle as I think he's a bit overrated and has bigger clubs willing to pay more.

Plus Jagielka is a CB so that's completely different. And Barry has international experience and will fill a space due to that, Barton doesn't.
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Lol you must be one of an handful of toon fans who wanted rid then because i thought he was terrific for us. Adam worth £10-£15million is baffling and laughable imo. Cheick Tiote cost under £4million i look at it that way, and Adam isn't close to being as talented as Tiote.

Tiote was a complete unknown though, if he was being signed after last season he would be worth the same amount of money.

No I've spoke to quite a few who were in agreement that giving him £50k on a 5 year contract would not have made sense and the creative likes of Ben Arfa and Cabaye will be good enough to replace him and probably create more chances and make us a bigger threat from open play.

Tiote was unknown playing in a league with a lower reputation, whereas Adam has played in the best league in the world (imo) and created/scored a lot of goals. Plus Adam and Tiote are different types of players, Adam can pick out a 30 yard pass and hit a good freekick- Tiote can't. But Tiote can tackle and break up the game a lot better than Adam.

I think Blackpool would accept a £7 million offer for him, along with a whole heap of add ons.

Getting back on topic I think that in January he would have cost about £15 million, now I would say about 8 or 9

Good discussion, but the value of a player is determined by the wallet size of club(s) who want him.
I agree with the poster who said Henderson was overpriced at £20m, and of course there's Torres who was 'valued' at £50m.
At the end of the day Liverpool might see Adam as worth £10m, if Chelsea and Man City start liking the player then all common sense in valuations disappear, you can add noughts and it still won't touch the sides of the pot that these two have available.

£4-£5m absolute maximum, and he wont go to a top 6 side, cos he aint good enough!!

Villa or NEwcastle (as a replacement for Nolan/Barton)

£10million at the most for Adam. No more for a player who got relegated. He's a decent player and would do well at a team like Bolton or Fulham for example. Not at that level for a top 6 team that's pushing for europe and or the league.

His corner's are worth £10mil alone

His right foot worth £7.50..............................

Should be announced tomorrow or Monday at the latest. 8m I think it's gonna be.

Hes at mellwood now and has passed medical and agreed terms , just add ons to sort with Blackpool plus possible player loan from us to them .

just heard from my mate that the player Blackpool are looking to loan is Jonjo Shelvey , season loan just to get more game time .

i think 6 million is the right price for adam, plus shelvey to go for a season long loan is sufficient

If Adam was an England cap or hailed from somewhere exotic with a name like Charlino Adaminiho then there would be less debate on his value.

In todays market Adam is worth about 8 million.

He's worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for him.
On the basis clubs throw around £20m, £30m and more on average players he could go for anything - if Liverpool get desperate and see Adam as the missing link then they'll probably pay £15m, similar to Chelsea who hit the panic button last Jan in paying £50m for Torres, that meant Liverpool paid £35m for Carroll ? ? ?
No-one has a fixed value, it's all about market conditions and club needs....

Agreed, some of these guys purchased for crazy money really havent proved much in the premier league. Yet Adam has and people rate him at 6 million? ridiculous in the current climate of excessive spending.

6 million rising to 8 million plus Jonjo Shelvey and Stephen Darby on loan for next season

Im actually suprised he is that cheap if that is true. If he was English he would cost about £20mil.

I did think the fee would be closer to 10 million it may still be if Blackpool dig their heels in .
Think the fact hes only got 1 year left and has asked to go could force their hand though .
A year in the championship imo wouldnt damage him at all in fact hed probably be one of the star players .
He could stay and see out his contract and go for free , then there would a long line for his signature.

I would say 5-6 million in my honest opinion.

According to this mornings papers Blackpool are demanding 9 million were as Liverpool wont go over 6 million rising to 8 , so this could drag on .

Finally. Having a medical later today. Fee agreed.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-agree-adam-deal

liverbnz wrote:Finally. Having a medical later today. Fee agreed.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-agree-adam-deal

Imo this is good news i know theres a lot of talk of to many midfielders , but i do think he does improve the quality .

Henderson/Meireles Gerrad/Lucas Adam/Spearing Downing/Maxi

Saurez/Kuyt/Aquilani

Carroll/Kuyt/??

I suspect one of Meireles or Aquilani will go though.

I'm not convinced.
He strikes me as a player who stood out in a poor team last year having stayed under the radar for years prior to that.
Signed for half a million by Blackpool I'm convinced that had he been at the level required to be a Liverpool (or any of the top clubs) player then I'm sure the armies of scouts that know everything about everyone who kicks a ball over the age of 12, would have taken an interest.
Apologies for sounding cynical/sarcastic but do Liverpool plan to offload any of the dross they've bought in the last 2/3 years, they appear to be building a squad of around 50 !

I think the problem is that they can't unload any of them because they are just that...dross. They end up waiting for contracts to expire or trying to offload them on the cheap but even that doesn't work as the players expectation of what they are worth is also grossly over-exagerated and so wages become the problem.