England 2023 - Post 6N and beyond - Prep for WC

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We have not even looked like scoring a try.

Wales deserve their lead.

We're pathetic

Wow England are pretty poor

Dropping the ball every time they get an opportunity has been killing England

Who whiffed on the tackle attempt on North? I didn't see, the replays were poor..

Like I said earlier. Gruesome.

Well Dan is conforming he's not going.

Theo Dan did well there to be fair after missing his first throw as an interantional. Hit his man at a pressure lineout then stayed in play when the maul wheeled close to touch.

Then his third throw gets turned over. Not so good.

Being realistic I'd say we've seen more fringe selections for the 33 playing themselves out of contention than into selection.

This is impressively bad......so Dan can't throw...now we know.

All we can hope is they are deliberately being rubbish to lure everyone else into a false sense of security ...

3 put of 3 for Dan.

Heaf wrote:All we can hope is they are deliberately being rubbish to lure everyone else into a false sense of security ...

The 3 year plan.....I like it.

Catching practice tomorrow lads

Even Steward dropping now. So many handling errors 14 so far

Sgt_Pooly wrote:This is impressively bad......so Dan can't throw...now we know.

He's been good there for Sarries when I've seen him. Wales are targeting England's two jumpers very effectively since he's come on though and he's now 1 from 4.

And another poor handling error.

Next week is getting to be a bit of a pressure game for us now. The first team lads are coming back in but it'll be the same tactics. This is abysmal.

So this improved scrum I'd been reading about on this forum, any idea where it is?

Should be a penalty to Wales that.

Scrum going backwards so bring on bevan Rodd.

Honestly think Pearson has got away with one there. They get that to ground where it's usually ruled a ruck, Pearson gets on top after that. Good from Pearson to stay in the fight and win the turnover at the end of the day but a lucky call IMO.

Pearson has been impressive throughout along with Ludlam and Genge in the forwards.

Rodd and Dan in the scrum now. And a pressured position to scrummage first up!

There is no spark. Genge looks knackered, Malins is not good enough, Cokanasiga is a lump, is Porter even on the pitch?

The heads have dropped, it's France over again.

I'm going to Twickenham for the Fiji match. Considering not going...

England need two scores and who are the real dynamic playmakers who can make a difference? None.

Mr Bounce wrote:There is no spark. Genge looks knackered, Malins is not good enough, Cokanasiga is a lump, is Porter even on the pitch?

The heads have dropped, it's France over again.

I'm going to Twickenham for the Fiji match. Considering not going...

Woah. That'd be silly. History could be made.

Refs finally spotted Wales pushing early ...

doctor_grey wrote:England need two scores and who are the real dynamic playmakers who can make a difference?  None.

More than that. What's the plan to get back in the game? Passive breakdown, has there just been the 1 turnover there? Kicking tactic not working but clearly the coaches have said that's the only plan. Only 2 decent moves by the harlequins guys so they'll be disciplined for playing off game plan.

I like Rio Dyer. There's something very likable about sportsman than just run like someone being chased by a Lion. Pure energy.

Painful number of handling errors. We could and should have put this game to bed in the first half.

Borthwick will be fuming.

Dan, Porter, Hill and maybe others will have confirmed their place back with their clubs next week.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:England need two scores and who are the real dynamic playmakers who can make a difference?  None.

More than that. What's the plan to get back in the game? Passive breakdown, has there just been the 1 turnover there? Kicking tactic not working but clearly the coaches have said that's the only plan. Only 2 decent moves by the harlequins guys so they'll be disciplined for playing off game plan.

You think multiple garryowens is not a dynamic attacking strategy???????

Well it's become one of those games where if you weren't involved your stock has soared.

The rfu should be fuming.

king_carlos wrote:I like Rio Dyer. There's something very likable about sportsman than just run like someone being chased by a Lion. Pure energy.

I think we need to make some of the so-called England speedsters train by being chased by a hungry leopard.

doctor_grey wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:England need two scores and who are the real dynamic playmakers who can make a difference?  None.

More than that. What's the plan to get back in the game? Passive breakdown, has there just been the 1 turnover there? Kicking tactic not working but clearly the coaches have said that's the only plan. Only 2 decent moves by the harlequins guys so they'll be disciplined for playing off game plan.

You think multiple garryowens is not a dynamic attacking strategy???????

It's the only attacking strategy.

Wonder if we'll show something further than 3 carries then kick next week, maybe extend ourselves to 4 carries?

Frankly this is worse than the France game.

Agreed, at least France were superb. Wales been poor but England diabolical.

Er does her ref....think that may be incorrect.

Surely his left hand has knocked the ball forward before the right hand touches it down

No try bsxt

Would have to look that up again but think the ref may be wrong there.

Right hand was in touch with the ball all along. Bad decision.

That's embarrassing, ref corrects TMO.

He drops that but does Steward touch him?

Steward can catch....but my, he's soooooooo slow.

BamBam wrote:Wonder if we'll show something further than 3 carries then kick next week, maybe extend ourselves to 4 carries?

Don't get too carried away. You sound like a radical....

This is arguably one of worst games I've seen from England, certainly second half.

Wales miles offside before that turnover

Dirty from Pearson. Naughty boy.

Well looking for positives. Please can someone tell me what they are? Possibly moves the exit of Borthick on a touch but apart from that?

No 7&1/2 wrote:Well looking for positives. Please can someone tell me what they are? Possibly moves the exit of Borthick on a touch but apart from that?

The sun will come up tomorrow. Barely.

Well, that was dire.

Wales played some decent stuff in the 2nd half. I can't recall anything of real note from us....utter tosh. I can't really think of any positives.

Awful....many players won't wear an England shirt again...

Utterly dreadful. Never been less enthused about England going into a World Cup. Lot of talk about England's soft draw, but they'll actually struggle to get past Japan.