England U20 vs New Zealand U20 JWC final

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England:

1.Vunipola
2.Haywood
3.Thomas
4.Launchbury
5. Matthews
6. Jones
7. Kvesic
8. Gray

9. Cook
10 Ford

11. Wade
12. Farrell
13. Daly
14. Short
15. Ransom

Bench: (16-22) Rob Buchanan, Will Collier, Sam Twomey, Matt Everard, Dan Robson, Ryan Mills, Marland Yarde.


New Zealand

1 Solomona Sakalia
2 Codie Taylor
3 Ben Tameifuna
4 Steven Luatua
5 Brodie Rettalick
6 Brad Shields
7 Sam Cane
8 Luke Whitelock (C)
9 TJ Perenara
10 Gareth Anscombe
11 Charles Piutau
12 Lima Sopoaga
13 Francis Saili
14 Mitchell Scott
15 Beauden Barrett

16 Sefo Setefano
17 Michael Kainga
18 Dominic Bird
19 Carl Axtens
20 Brad Weber
21 Rhys Llewellyn
22 Waisake Naholo

This touchjudge is terrible. That's two foot in touches he's missed.

NZ lineout has been terrible both times I've seen them. Difference was, against Wales it didn't matter...

Come ON England! Do it for the NH.

Have the BB's been behind before in the comp? I think not.

Great score by the BBs there. Ruthless stuff.

Timing. Good try BB's.

Great kick from Anscombe. Damn NZ taking advantage of the injured man.

Is that Yarde on for Short?

That was a bit harsh from the ref

I can only see NZ getting stronger as the game goes on. England (and individual players) trying to do a bit too much at times, we need to go through the phases a little more, we're competing well at the breakdown and crossing the gainline well.

Good stuff George Ford.

This is really nicely poised.

NZ speciallty. Try just before HT.

johnpartle wrote:That was a bit harsh from the ref

What the hell was Wade supposed to do? He was competing fairly for the ball (the ref said so himself!) the two Kiwi lads pull him over onto their side of the ruck and he moves away as soon as he can, yet still gets penalised!

10-20 at half-time

johnpartle wrote:I can only see NZ getting stronger as the game goes on. England (and individual players) trying to do a bit too much at times, we need to go through the phases a little more, we're competing well at the breakdown and crossing the gainline well.

True John. Must starve them of ball. Must go through the phases more and play tighter - as a team. Ye have em in the set-pieces.

Believe.

Gibson wrote:

johnpartle wrote:I can only see NZ getting stronger as the game goes on. England (and individual players) trying to do a bit too much at times, we need to go through the phases a little more, we're competing well at the breakdown and crossing the gainline well.

True John. Must starve them of ball. Must go through the phases more and play tighter - as a team. Ye have em in the set-pieces.

Believe.

That's the one.

C'mon lads, just keep playing no matter what!

FFS lad.

Cumbrian wrote:

johnpartle wrote:That was a bit harsh from the ref

What the hell was Wade supposed to do? He was competing fairly for the ball (the ref said so himself!) the two Kiwi lads pull him over onto their side of the ruck and he moves away as soon as he can, yet still gets penalised!

10-20 at half-time

Agree with that, but I was actually referring to Hayward getting pinged for holding on. I felt he released in a more than suitable time and the defender backed off as support arrived.

It'll take a monumental performance for England to crawl this back.

Booya!

Oh yeah? TRRRRRY!

That was more like it, nothing too speculatiuve, just some nice switches of play and send the big guys up close to the breakdown

Now they Believe. They have the beating of this BB team. They just need to believe they can and go at them.

Like they are now.

If that isn't a try, that was a Flip early tackle.

Oh my god, that is a great try saving effort from the Kiwi

Great try saver. England have to make this pressure and position count.

Oh yes. BB's not used to this at all. It DID touch the ground... after he put his hand under it.

That's bollox. England robbed.

That is a Flip joke, that was a penalty at the scrum!

NZ threw everything into defending that scrum. Impressive.

Fantastic try England. Beautiful to watch. Great try saving tackle by the NZ 9 too. Looked like it could have been a 22 as it seemed he took the ball off the English player in goal instead of carrying it back.

disneychilly wrote:Looked like it could have been a 22 as it seemed he took the ball off the English player in goal instead of carrying it back.

I did wonder about that.

Nice control by Wade there.

Get some!

Get some!

Get some!

Come on England!

Justice! This is great stuff. Loving England's sheer gumption and skill here.

Yo!

Anscombe is some kicker.

Anscombe's kicking form the spot is superb

Justice haha. What about the first try?

These AB's really do develop ahead of anyone else don't they.

Good to see that Eng sure are getting closer though.

Hope they can convert it into senior players and get a bit better at the top level again.

I've been critical of the England SHs this tournament, but Cook has done well today, I hope the less convincing Robson can step up similarily.

Gibson wrote:Oh yes. BB's not used to this at all. It DID touch the ground... after he put his hand under it.

That's bollox. England robbed.

it did, the NZ dude on comentary seemed to be doing his best to sell a no try though.

This looks to be a proper test for the Blacks though. Well played to Eng for that but they are in their own league.

I'm sure Wales could have run them much closer on a better day too.

With a first choice side out, Wales might have kept them below fifty. A big might though.

Mon England, one last push. Do it!

Shoite... bad lineout.

The ref has been quite unwilling to call penalties for dominance at the scrum

Cmon kiwis wake up for goodness sake. Last 10 mins and you still have the lead. Good effort by england. Shocker kick. Pressure.

Knocked forward surely?

THAT is absoloute Flip joke!

I suspect the game is up now. They worked that well, but I thought the 11 could have probably fly hacked past the fullback and then the BB fifteen would probably have had a run in.

That's the difference between the teams though, Ford's radar has been a liittle off, whereas Anscombe is deadly.

There you go. Champs and unbeaten again. Good effort england. Would have deserved the win.

Cumbrian wrote:THAT is absoloute Flip joke!

Comment here was it makes up for the first try (not my comment btw). You win some, you lose some. Commiserations.

Oh well, fair dues to NZ, can't fault England for their effort and adventure, but NZ made it count when they had the opportunities. Anscombe's boot certainly helped as well.

Whew. Good win. Tough battle. Anscombe man of match. His goals made the diff.

i can't see anyone ever beating the NZ lads at this level.

Just give them it permanently and have a competition with everyone else so someone different can win I reckon.

Very proud of the lads, could have gone either way, but for the odd mistake/ reffing decision.