What do you think the choice XV's for the regions will look like after the RWC next season?

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Ospreys

James
Hibbard
A Jones
AW Jones
Evans
Smith
Tuperic
R Jones
R Webb
D Biggar
S Williams
A Beck
T Bowe
H Dirkson
T Prydie

Blues

Jenkins
Thomas
Andrews
Tito
Davies
Pretorius
Warburton
Rush
Williams
Sweeney
Robinson
Roberts
Lualala
Halfpenny
Fish

Scarlets
Thomas
Rees
Gardiner
Reed
Welch
McCusker
Turnbull
Morgan
Knoyle
Jones
Fenby
Davies
Williams
North
Priestland


Dragons

Price
Burns
Way
Chateris
A jones
Lydiate
Thomas
Faletau
Evans
Tovey
Brew
Riley
Smith
Hughes
S Jones

These are just a few suggestions of what they may look like, obviously I am not saying i am correct in all positions in all teams, very far from it. But I would like to read your suggestions please...!

maestegmafia wrote:Don't worry I am not despondent about the situation.

Every Osprey supporter I know is chomping at the bit ready for next season, everyone is extremely optermistic about our chances. All the cancerous elements within our squad have been cut out and we are left with a solid pack and a young, energetic, pacy back line who should listen to Scott Johnson's attacking ideas!

manofgwent wrote:
Prydie played for Wales 18 months ago and should really have been played more.

Thats true but if George North is a better winger, or another young winger like Halfpenny is better then they will get picked ahead of him. He is only 19.

manofgwent wrote:Gareth Owen may have 50 games but in how many positions, not in the HC and how many of those 50 has he started?

Gareth Owen has had a lot of knee trouble which has restricted his selection. THankfully he is only 22 and he will recover fully and surely fulfil potential.

manofgwent wrote:Im not the only one to write phillips off.

You are one of the only people I have heard right off any player that young, plus as you said yourself he's on the 7's circuit!

manofgwent wrote:Why would I be jealous of the ospreys? The dragons should be cannon fodder for the ospreys, but we show just how important team spirit i's!

That is credit to the Dragons, the league is closer this year, the Dragons are a good side. THe Ospreys are not so good that any team in the magners is cannon fodder. Apart from the Scarlets christmas team.

manofgwent wrote:I get so fed up with ospreys fans saying how many players they produce for Wales. When Wales played France in the 6n, the ospreys only produced 4, yes 4 starters! At the minute the dragons and scarlets have the most exciting youngsters in Wales.

The Dragons and the Scarlets do have the most exciting youngsters. But likewise over the last seven years the Ospreys have supplied the majority of the Welsh team.

We don't always necessarily think they should all be there though.

manofgwent wrote:In the pack the ospreys have 2 props, Adam and James, but not if jenkins is fit. Not youngsters.

Bevington, Craig Cross, Jo Rees

manofgwent wrote: You do have AW jones who's reputation i's HUGE. In the backs you have Shane. 33. I believe that i's all the ospreys would have if Wales picked their strongest team.

Thats not a bad thing, it would be good to see all the regions represented. But we definitely do our bit.

manofgwent wrote:you can argue that you've lost hook, Phillips and Byrne, but you only produced one of them.

and have produced plenty of others.

manofgwent wrote:The ospreys have a lot of players on the fringes, but you've missed out by not blooding them. In kristian Phillips case, how's ge going to get ahead of bowe and walker (nwq), fussell, Shane, prydie???

In a big club players have to play their way in to the first team, it helps build their character, if they are good enough they get games, if not they strengthen the Premiership.

manofgwent wrote:Alyn.
Prydie played for Wales 18 months ago and should really have been played more. Gareth Owen may have 50 games but in how many positions, not in the HC and how many of those 50 has he started? Im not the only one to write phillips off. He's on the 7's circuit!
Why would I be jealous of the ospreys? The dragons should be cannon fodder for the ospreys, but we show just how important team spirit i's!
I get so fed up with ospreys fans saying how many players they produce for Wales. When Wales played France in the 6n, the ospreys only produced 4, yes 4 starters! At the minute the dragons and scarlets have the most exciting youngsters in Wales. In the pack the ospreys have 2 props, Adam and James, but not if jenkins is fit. Not youngsters. You do have AW jones who's reputation i's HUGE. In the backs you have Shane. 33. I believe that i's all the ospreys would have if Wales picked their strongest team.you can argue that you've lost hook, Phillips and Byrne, but you only produced one of them. The ospreys have a lot of players on the fringes, but you've missed out by not blooding them. In kristian Phillips case, how's ge going to get ahead of bowe and walker (nwq), fussell, Shane, prydie???

Well to be fair you did hit one hole into my defence, Prydie played last season not this season.
I dont really see why Owens Versatility is an issue, Gareth Thomas played 11,12,13,14, and 15 for Wales yet no one says this was a problem, Owen can cover many positions well so why not take advantage of it?
What is wrong with Phillips being on the 7's circuit, he is very pacy and the 7's circuit gives him lots of space to run and enjoy himself. The 7's circuit is a development tool for players.
I dont accept the Dragons and Scarlets have more exciting young players than the Ospreys or Blues. What I do think is the Dragons, and the Blues are finally starting to pull their weight by developing players for Wales, and about bloody time too! The Ospreys have carried the rest of you for far too long!
There are countless threads on the reasons for many of the Ospreys players leaving I can assure you apart from Ben Lewis, and James Hook no one is concerned with any of the other leaving. Most were disruptive influences and frankly the biggest mourning amongst Osprey fans has been for the loss of TiaTia who departed out coaching set up!
Finally we have Prydie, Kristian Phillips, Hanno Dirksen and Eli Walker are the young kids fighting it out for Wing places. Nicki Walker, Tommy Bowe and Shane Williams will be at the world Cup for 3 months next season, these 4 players will have ample time to get game time within that time frame!
Shane Williams will only be around 2 more years, Nicki Walker will be gone at the end of next season and Prydie will probably be a Full Back. So these players will get oppertunities sooner rather than later. You cant expect kids ages 19-21 to play every week, they need to play a few games here and there so you don't burn them out.

The thing that has to be remembered is that we need these fringe, regional, academy players to play a part as substitutes for the Regional squads as well as keep the level of the Premiership as high as possible.

I just wish I had some clips of kristian Phillips when the ospreys played the dragons in the LV 2 years ago. Let's just say he wasn't keen on tackling brew! He took an awful lot if stuck for his defensive performance and hasn't featured too much since. If kristian Phillips i's the real deal then get rid if walker and give him meaningful game time. Otherwise you'llbe posting in 3 years time, he's still only 23 and can still make it!! Please look at gareth Owen.
The closest these youngsters get to geineken, i's when they go on the razz with mikeyphillips!!!!!

manofgwent wrote:I just wish I had some clips of kristian Phillips when the ospreys played the dragons in the LV 2 years ago. Let's just say he wasn't keen on tackling brew! He took an awful lot if stuck for his defensive performance and hasn't featured too much since. If kristian Phillips i's the real deal then get rid if walker and give him meaningful game time. Otherwise you'llbe posting in 3 years time, he's still only 23 and can still make it!! Please look at gareth Owen.
The closest these youngsters get to geineken, i's when they go on the razz with mikeyphillips!!!!!

Thanks for your thoughts...!

Alym. Tovey, Ashley smith, lydiate, faletau, brew and Adam Hughes are key men fir the dragons, our best players and have all been exposed to HC rugby whilst still in their teens.
I know the ospreys have a lot of talent, I just wish they'd be exposed to top level games. It's done the dragons players the world of good. I'm not picking holes in the players, more the management. The more youngsters that are blooded the better for Wales.

manofgwent wrote:Alym. Tovey, Ashley smith, lydiate, faletau, brew and Adam Hughes are key men fir the dragons, our best players and have all been exposed to HC rugby whilst still in their teens.
I know the ospreys have a lot of talent, I just wish they'd be exposed to top level games. It's done the dragons players the world of good. I'm not picking holes in the players, more the management. The more youngsters that are blooded the better for Wales.

True

And now the young Ospreys players have got less players in their way. But they still have to earn their stripes as did those Dragons you mentioned, they all fought their way into the team, beating a man ahead of them. That they did it at an earlier age is more to do with the ease of bettering the players ahead of them.

I hope Rhys Webb gets a lot of game time ahead of the Samoan and I'd like to see prydie in ahead of Barry Davies. Let's hope the kids show up well during the world cup and stake a claim for their jerseys. I think it's fair to say that with the academy system that young players are ready earlier than they used to be in terms of physicality. They just need the experience that's crucial to go with it.

beck class player will come through , knows biggars limited game inside out!!

I really like the look of Ashley Beck. One of a number of young Welsh players at the Liberty with real potential - potential that will only be realised if they get regular first-XV rugby.