A B&I year?

Golf: Rory won the US Open and there's a couple of Englishmen leading the World rankings.

Tennis: Federer's out and Murray has every chance of winning a GS for the first time in seventy years.

And four great B&I chances in the RWC,

I take my references from Germany and Spain in their Wimbledon successes and their footy triumphs directly afterwards.

Portnoy

Rory blew the Masters, and then blew away everyone at the US Open. Hoping he can win THE OPEN too

PenfroPete wrote:Portnoy

Rory blew the Masters, and then blew away everyone at the US Open. Hoping he can win THE OPEN too

Yep. I should have said the US Open. I'll do the edit. [humbly]

Didn't you forget the Ireland v England HEC Final.

Nice to see that AM is British again. Let's hope he's not Scottish again in a few hours.

TheGreyGhost wrote:Nice to see that AM is British again. Let's hope he's not Scottish again in a few hours.

He's always Scottish to me

I really like the guy. Didn't like Henman, Murray has the Celtic passion.

Portnoy wrote:And four great B&I chances in the RWC,

Wouldn't say that. 1 or 2 outside chances at best.

Murray is Scottish at the minute.

Tick. Tock.

robbo277 wrote:

Portnoy wrote:And four great B&I chances in the RWC,

Wouldn't say that. 1 or 2 outside chances at best.

Yes. I was trying my best to be inclusive.

Murray won't win.

Thomond wrote:Murray won't win.

One day a Brit will win a GS.

One day...

Good old Murray (the Brit) . If he doesn't win it I'd like to see Tsonga triumph. Great player to watch.

red_stag wrote:Didn't you forget the Ireland v England HEC Final.

wow,Club/franchise rugby is now representative of national results;I think this comment should perhaps be reviewed

There are other sports apart from rugby?

AlynDavies wrote:There are other sports apart from rugby?

Hopscotch,all-in-wrestling,cross country marbles????????????

East European topless women's football. I can't help myself being a fan.

What have the English got to do with all this

Rory McIlroy... Northern Ireland
Leinster...Ireland
Murray......Scottish

Nope no English there :run2:

SafeAsMilk wrote:Good old Murray (the Brit) . If he doesn't win it I'd like to see Tsonga triumph. Great player to watch.

Same here.

As for the World Cup, I'd honestly like the All Blacks to win it. They've been the pre-eminent rugby side / nation for so long and they've played some of the best rugby I've seen recently.

geoff998rugby wrote:What have the English got to do with all this

Rory McIlroy... Northern Ireland
Leinster...Ireland
Murray......Scottish

Nope no English there :run2:

First Ashes away series win in something like 24 years? Wales can jump in on that one as well, as it is the England and Wales Cricket Board.

Portnoy wrote:Tennis: Federer's out and Murray has every chance of winning a GS for the first time in seventy years.

Is he really that old, fair play to be competing still after at least 70 years

Being serious I don't think it is going to be a NH win at the world cup this year, but full marks for positivity.

robbo277 wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:What have the English got to do with all this

Rory McIlroy... Northern Ireland
Leinster...Ireland
Murray......Scottish

Nope no English there :run2:

First Ashes away series win in something like 24 years? Wales can jump in on that one as well, as it is the England and Wales Cricket Board.

I thought it was the South African mercenaries whot won it

geoff998rugby wrote: [
I thought it was the South African mercenaries whot won it

Irony anyone .... :run2:

PenfroPete wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote: [
I thought it was the South African mercenaries whot won it

Irony anyone .... :run2:

I don’t see the irony in a bunch of Saffers in Ireland jerseys beating a bunch of Saffers in England jerseys at playing afternoon tea…

…oh hang on…

Twas the Ulster 'angle' I was coming from 'Kado

The difference is at Ulster they are are only 3 in a squad of 38 whereas for the English middle order it is find the Englishman.....

Mind you I am pleased you consider Ulster worthy as putting up there with the winning contributions to British and Irish sport

Even I think that is a little premature but thanks anyway

geoff998rugby wrote:The difference is at Ulster they are are only 3 in a squad of 38 whereas for the English middle order it is find the Englishman.....

I'll give you a hint for future games. If he's wearing an England (and Wales) shirt, he's probably English (or Welsh).

Portnoy wrote:

Tennis: Federer's out and Murray has every chance of winning a GS for the first time in seventy years.

Its a pretty damning indicment of a nations prowess when they can only win one grandslam in 70 odd years...eh Ireland

More recent than the last English one though

geoff998rugby wrote:More recent than the last English one though

Yeah but teh last wiorld cup was contested beween England A and England B

Update:

Murray failed at Wmbdn but Darren Clarke surprisingly succeeded with incredible fortitude on the Open.

Since then McLaren have been have been pushing forward in F1 and the 'English' cricket team have been doing well.

That would be the 'England' test squad with 4 SA born players and 1 Irish born player in it

That would be the F1 tournament to be won by a country mile by an Austrian based company with a German driver

As for Darren Clark - one of ours I think !

You seriously class Strauss and Prior as South African? They have British parents and moved back here as young kids. Get a grip fella. As to your other points, fair enough!

robbo277 wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:What have the English got to do with all this

Rory McIlroy... Northern Ireland
Leinster...Ireland
Murray......Scottish

Nope no English there :run2:

First Ashes away series win in something like 24 years? Wales can jump in on that one as well, as it is the England and Wales Cricket Board.

I really wouldn't rate the ashes as a big win, It's between England and Austrailia so each time there is about a 50% chance of winning it, it's hardly a competition.

Ireland doesn't make a big deal and think we're the best in the world when we win the The Cormac McAnallen Cup in the International Rules Series.

It's similar to the Ashes as in its always Australia v one country, but at least if we win the Cormac McAnallen Cup it means we're the best in the world, winning the ashes doesn't do that.

It’s just a symptom of the English inferiority complex with the Aussies. They have make such a big deal out of it, but nobody else cares!

Thanks for that. It's just about the oldest sporting rivalry in the world. If you aren't interested, fine, but don't belittle it. It's exceptionally important to English and Australian cricket fans. You just sound like you want to bemoan anything English.

well put it this way, its a competation between just 2 teams,

yet if England win it's big news and players get MBE's, OBE's whatever
it's not like they won the cricket world cup, is it? they beat one team, just one team.

The Ashes isn't even the high point of Test cricket. It fails to capture the imagination of anyone outside England or Australia.

you say it's about the oldest sporting rivalry in the world, (1882), to bring it to a rugby context the Calcutta Cup (1879) is older and you only have to beat one team to win it, yet players don't get MBE's etc for winning it?

I'm sure winning the Ashes is important to England, but don't think that anyone else in the UK or Ireland really cares. Therefore it's an achievement but not one to boast about to anyone else apart from Austrailians, and even then they win it most of the time and don't think to much of it.

I think he is taking the urine.

Mickado wrote:It’s just a symptom of the English inferiority complex with the Aussies. They have make such a big deal out of it, but nobody else cares!

Alchemy. The art/science of turning base metals into gold.

"It’s just a symptom of the English inferiority complex with the Aussies. They have make such a big deal out of it, but nobody else cares!"

Nor should they. But then ask an Aussie.

Grow your own world-class rivalries before being dismissive of others'.

Grow your own world-class rivalries

Dublin v Meath
Cork v Kerry
Kilkenny v Waterford
Galway v Mayo
Tyrone v Armagh
Limerick v Clare
Tipperary v Kilkenny

Sporting events that draw higher attendances each year than rugby union and cricket, only surpassed by RL (in Aus), soccer, AFL and NFL.

Can in dismiss others now?

Kilkenny and Waterford isn't a rivalry we all know how that's going to go! You could say the same about Cork V Kerry though.

Oldest international sporting rivalries anyone ?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/318995.html

Mickado wrote:

Grow your own world-class rivalries

Dublin v Meath
Cork v Kerry
Kilkenny v Waterford
Galway v Mayo
Tyrone v Armagh
Limerick v Clare
Tipperary v Kilkenny

Sporting events that draw higher attendances each year than rugby union and cricket, only surpassed by RL (in Aus), soccer, AFL and NFL.

Can in dismiss others now?

Outside Ireland who cares?

I'm talking world class rivalries. Even the Boat Race is bigger than any GAA event.

Does the boat race get more than 80,000 people?

I don't care if no ones else has any interest in it. That's the point, if it doesn't interest you ignore, just don't belittle it as you come across as petulant. Would you belittle the bledisloe cup to a Kiwi? Why is it so important to you that England shouldn't celebrate it's rivalries?

Go into an Irish bar anywhere in the world on either of the all Ireland final days and you’ll see who cares.

The boat race? Either I’ve never heard of it or my cockney rhyming slang needs updating.

World Class rivalries ?
Some of those Ashes matches in the past have not been "World Class" in terms of performances by any stretch of the imagination, more recent ones have

What do you mean by World Class rivalries ?

Mickado wrote:Go into an Irish bar anywhere in the worlSayd on either of the all Ireland final days and you’ll see who cares.

Says it all.

It's not the FA Cup or the Superbowl or the World Series or anything is it?

Portnoy your level of jealousy towards Ireland really is quite astonishing.

Seriously, when was the last time that you talked about anything other than Ireland?

Artful_Dodger wrote:Portnoy your level of jealousy towards Ireland really is quite astonishing.

Seriously, when was the last time that you talked about anything other than Ireland?

He did a truly fascinating article about how he really dislikes the Welsh the other day, to be fair to him.