The Genius of PBF Top 50 Heavyweights of all time

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1. Muhammad Ali
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Joe Louis
4. Jack Johnson
5. Larry Holmes
6. George Foreman
7. Jim Jeffries
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Joe Frazier
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Sonny Liston
12. Evander Holyfield
13. Sam Langford
14. Gene Tunney
15. Mike Tyson
16. Riddick Bowe
17. Wladimir Klitschko
18. Vitali Klitschko
19. Joe Walcott
20. Ezzard Charles
21. Ken Norton
22. Max Schmeling
23. Max Baer
24. Harry Wills
25. Peter Jackson
26. James J. Corbett
27. John L. Sullivan
28. Joe Jeanette
29. Michael Spinks
30. Floyd Patterson
31. Bob Fitzsimmons
32. Archie Moore
33. Jimmy Young
34. Jerry Quarry
35. Ron Lyle
36. Earnie Shavers
37. Tim Witherspoon
38. Ernie Terrell
39. Cleveland Williams
40. James Douglas
41. Jimmy Ellis
42. George Chuvalo
43. Ingemar Johansson
44. David Tua
45. Ike Ibeabuchi
46. Chris Byrd
47. Primo Carnera
48. Sam McVea
49. Larry Gains
50. Michael Moorer

After studying a lot of heavyweights of the past in recent times I decided to make a top 50 list...After the top 30 I struggled for the last 20 spots.

Feel free to be critical of my list and if convinced I will change the list...You can also add your own list.

Without the defeats he'd be second for me behind Ali but there's enough quality on his record to push him above the likes of Marciano, Johnson, Liston and Frazier. He's very much in the Holmes, Foreman and Jeffries bracket, the losses are less significant to many other fighters losses because they were overturned, far more significant that Barrera lost to Jones for instance.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Think the fact that he never really struggled against the better fighters he faced speaks volumes of his mentality, those losses are used against him in head to head match ups as well but can't see him making a mistake like that against any half decent heavyweight.

Then we are talking about an unprofessional quality that makes him dismissive of lesser fighters. As already said more eloquently by Rowley, getting caught once is unlucky, twice is start of a pattern! Mind you, I do not dispute his technical ability or to rise to the big occasion, so it is personal preference on what weight you put to these loses