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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:39 pm

Anyone who has boxed knows that fighting style is important. When I started learning the game I was taught the basics as is the norm. I mastered the stance and learned how to throw punches in the right way ie sitting down on my punches, twisting my hips, blah blah blah, but eventually I NATURALLY formed a style that seemed to suit me physically. I never gave any thought to it, it just happened but my personal style was the direct opposite of what I was taught and yet it was effective.

My style evolved in time with my left hand held low, right hand cocked, and adopting the counter puncher mentality. I had quick reflexes which explains why my left hand was held low but my defence was reliant on me slipping punches rather then blocking them. Now my trainers were always frustrated with me as I would hear them shouting "hands up, hands up" but I boxed in a way that was comfortable to me. I see fighters like Froch doing the same thing. I doubt very much that Froch was taught to fight like that its just something that develops over time.

I had success with this style and faced guys who were sluggers, stalkers, and one punch heros and was able to deal with these styles quite effectively but ironically I had problems with text book type guys, which is funny to me. Did anyone here develop their own style or did they just stick to basics?

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Post by Rowley Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:41 pm

At what point did you add the spinning back fist to your arsenal?

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Post by The genius of PBF Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:42 pm

rowley wrote:At what point did you add the spinning back fist to your arsenal?

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Post by coxy0001 Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:45 pm

Tried desperately to stick to the basics, but like most things i found it better to train and practise those until it became 2nd nature.

For some reason i automatically went with a philly shell kinda defence and would prefer to roll than have a Abraham/Clottey high peek-a-boo guard. Suppose it's like when you pick up a golf club and hold it left below right etc, just found it more natural etc. Found delivering a jab much easier to get pop off of it.

Other than that i didn't have much of a defined style other than i'd go body hunting probably too much. Only sparred though, never got carded as it wasn't exactly known by that i was in a boxing gym

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Post by eddyfightfan Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:46 pm

ive only just started boxing, but already i try and fight fire with fire, if someone lands something it makes me determined to land back and i end up all over the place, no doubt as i learn (only had about 10 sessions) this will tighten up, but would think the mentality will stay the same, as you cant change your attitudes

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:48 pm

Very funny jeff

To answer your question I added it in the time I took up Muay Thai. Not really surprised at your comical reply did'nt expect a sensible answer as you have never laced up a pair of gloves in your life. Well maybe when washing the dishes but never in combat.

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Post by Rowley Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:50 pm

Not sure marigolds have laces to be honest. And as Ray Davies once put it I'm a lover not a fighter.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:50 pm

I tried to be a slick fighter even tried to be a bit like RJJ or Naz but the minute I got tagged I was all over the place and just wanted to trade. Had a glass chin though so it never went well for me and I became a spectator very quickly.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:53 pm

I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:54 pm

Fightfan that mentality will go eventually because if you dont you will just end up facing a guy who will keep throwing it back its then that you will try new things to handle him and thats boxing. My point is that you might develop a style that works for you. Like coxy said he found by adopting a certain style enabled him to throw the jab better. I think finding a style that suits you but still retaining the important aspects of the basics helps.

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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:55 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

Shouldn't worry, Tino.

Audley Harrison made a fortune by doing the same.

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Post by Rowley Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:56 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

Neither have I Tino, fancy a scrap, since we both have the same record 0-0-0 someones 0 has got to go

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:56 pm

I have short arms so the jab was never a punch that worked that well for me. Was more comfortable fighting southpaw even though I'm right handed. Never seemed to get caught as often or as cleanly.
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Post by HumanWindmill Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:58 pm

I believe, that when it comes to a discussion concerning styles, we shouldn't underestimate the importance of this question :

https://www.606v2.com/t9815-the-difinitrate-historical-social-aspect-of-pugilism

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:00 pm

prettyboykev is that true lol your a freak. A short, slick switch hitter....with no jab.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:07 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

Shouldn't worry, Tino.

Audley Harrison made a fortune by doing the same.

Ouch!

I vaguely remember a thread on the old 606 about something similar to this. It made me chuckle at the fact every poster had a winning amateur record. Some better than others but everyone a winner. I wonder where all the amateur losers have gone.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:08 pm

I always look to use my reach and power advantage wherever possible. More often than not, once I landed the fight would be over. The missus did get up once but was clearly unable to continue after the fall downstairs.
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Post by Rowley Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:08 pm

One Bomb had a better amateur record than Sugar Ray Robinson. Rumour has it all the light heavyweights in Britain clubbed together to pay him not to go pro such was their fear.

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Post by The genius of PBF Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:13 pm

rowley wrote:One Bomb had a better amateur record than Sugar Ray Robinson. Rumour has it all the light heavyweights in Britain clubbed together to pay him not to go pro such was their fear.

Rumour has it Cleverly has threatened to retire if one bomb turns pro.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:16 pm

Tell you what Jeff, you tell me where and when our superfight is taking place and I will send along my toughest friend to duff you up. You won't know any different.

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:16 pm

I always liked using the throw arms like an insane windmill, with eyes closed and pulling a stupid face style of fighting!!!

If coupled with making noises like a braying donkey all the better.

Didn't OneBomb out himslf at the end of 606?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:18 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:prettyboykev is that true lol your a freak. A short, slick switch hitter....with no jab.

I tried to use my jab that's why I was more comfortable fighting southpaw never. I tried to fight like the fighters I liked but never had the ability. I'm only 5'4" but I do have short arms for a man my size.
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Post by Scottrf Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:19 pm

Sir. badgerhands wrote:I always liked using the throw arms like an insane windmill, with eyes closed and pulling a stupid face style of fighting!!!

Harry Greb? Do you have any tapes?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:19 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

Shouldn't worry, Tino.

Audley Harrison made a fortune by doing the same.

Ouch!

I vaguely remember a thread on the old 606 about something similar to this. It made me chuckle at the fact every poster had a winning amateur record. Some better than others but everyone a winner. I wonder where all the amateur losers have gone.

I'm one of the losers big time. Even got sparked out.
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Post by Rowley Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:20 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:prettyboykev is that true lol your a freak. A short, slick switch hitter....with no jab.

I tried to use my jab that's why I was more comfortable fighting southpaw never. I tried to fight like the fighters I liked but never had the ability. I'm only 5'4" but I do have short arms for a man my size.

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos2/Verne-Troyer-EzJHp.jpg

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:21 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I am going to "out" myself as never having had a single fight in my life. Not one. Ever.

Not in a street, playground, boxing ring or sports pitch.

Come to think of it, I wandered on the boxing forum by mistake.

Shouldn't worry, Tino.

Audley Harrison made a fortune by doing the same.

Ouch!

I vaguely remember a thread on the old 606 about something similar to this. It made me chuckle at the fact every poster had a winning amateur record. Some better than others but everyone a winner. I wonder where all the amateur losers have gone.

I'm one of the losers big time. Even got sparked out.

Good man for confessing Kev. You still have a superior record to me!

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by Michaels, Sean Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:22 pm

Anyone think that onetwo talking about himself as a boxer is a bit like Jay from the inbetweeners talking about how much clunge he's battered?
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Post by eddyfightfan Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:25 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Fightfan that mentality will go eventually because if you dont you will just end up facing a guy who will keep throwing it back its then that you will try new things to handle him and thats boxing. My point is that you might develop a style that works for you. Like coxy said he found by adopting a certain style enabled him to throw the jab better. I think finding a style that suits you but still retaining the important aspects of the basics helps.

yeah i think it will too, especially when the ability to slip and dodge come a bit more naturally, at the moment i try to either walk through or block and fire back, mainly because ive not learned the skills to move out and move back in whilst getting accurate punchs off. it seems to be a comprimise between quantiy and quality, but shouldnt be long before thats sorted out. i know ive only been about 10 times but did i not mention i have a 109(104)-0-1 amatuer record? not as good as most peoples on here it seems but its a modest start from a modest guy

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:31 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Sir. badgerhands wrote:I always liked using the throw arms like an insane windmill, with eyes closed and pulling a stupid face style of fighting!!!

Harry Greb? Do you have any tapes?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:32 pm

sean micheals thats the truth dont see whats so spectacular about it that I would make it up. Its just the way I evolved in boxing no big thing.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:41 pm

rowley wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:prettyboykev is that true lol your a freak. A short, slick switch hitter....with no jab.

I tried to use my jab that's why I was more comfortable fighting southpaw never. I tried to fight like the fighters I liked but never had the ability. I'm only 5'4" but I do have short arms for a man my size.

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos2/Verne-Troyer-EzJHp.jpg

I wouldn't fight Troyer. His reach advantage over me would be to great for me to get past.
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Post by Super D Boon Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:25 am

I only sparred Karate and Kick boxing does that count?

My only weapons was a flurry of weak jabs and a decent right hand and absolutely no offesnive attributes (always fought on the back foot). My crowning achievement was in a karate competition where I clubbed a kid with two hard rights and split his mouth. Trouble is it was a limited contact competition and I was swiftly disqualified! 🤦

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:31 am

i was once in a karate torament, going back over 15 years now (i was about 8) and won a bronze medal without actually winning a fight. accumaltive points and draws scored me high enough.

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Post by Super D Boon Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:32 am

eddyfightfan wrote:i was once in a karate torament, going back over 15 years now (i was about 8) and won a bronze medal without actually winning a fight. accumaltive points and draws scored me high enough.

I never got past the first round of those things. Only entered two though. The second was a terrible affair. I was kicked out of the ring twice and disqualified again. It wouldn't have been so bad if my opponent wasn't a girl! 🤦

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:51 am

i hardly remember mine, i drew lost drew and then was in the line for collecting a kata medal and they shouted my name out for combat as well, was only 8 at the time and fighting a few years above me, so was chuffed. i quit about 8 months later and now dont remember hardly anything.

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Post by Small Time Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:58 am

Super D Boon wrote:
eddyfightfan wrote:i was once in a karate torament, going back over 15 years now (i was about 8) and won a bronze medal without actually winning a fight. accumaltive points and draws scored me high enough.

I never got past the first round of those things. Only entered two though. The second was a terrible affair. I was kicked out of the ring twice and disqualified again. It wouldn't have been so bad if my opponent wasn't a girl! 🤦

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:06 am

its quite sad that the highlights of my career happened aged 8, im a shot fighter at 23, be good if i could do well in boxing, ive a beer belly holding me back that wasnt there then tho, so not crossing my fingers

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:51 am

I've never boxed. My mates all find this surprising as I've always been a gym rat and am a passionate boxing fan. I also was quite successful competitively at karate and taekwondo, and although I've done boxing training and still do a few times a month, I've never laced em up in the ring. Not sure what what style I'd have adopted - possibly a rangy one as I'm fairly tall for my weight (5'11" 154lb). No chance of me suddenly finding the urge now at 30 - need to preserve these good looks in case I go bankrupt and the missus goes off and finds herself a real man like Truss.
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Post by Young_Towzer Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:14 am

I uised to come forward a lot but with lots of head movement, i think its just as good as landing a punch when you see a fighter roll or bob and weave out the way of a shot. Preffered fighters who came at me when boxing as an amateur, the amateur game is poor imo, ie the points scoring, i boxed in Hull a few years ago and landed plenty of body shots but hardly any were scored, i think the amateur game should take one thing from the pro game certainly, the way rounds are scored, i outworked a more skillful lad a few years ago as well and lost because he basically sat off and pawed shots, the fight went to count back and he won, much to the disgust of my trainer, i have spoke to plenty of am trainers and they all want pro scoring. My little brother got robbed a couple of months back as well and it's disheartening.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:18 am

Used to fight as a brawling southpaw, tried to replicate Marciano as much as I could which worked against shorter guys but had to take too many punches when fighting the taller rangier guys

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:20 am

I was a switch hitter with a great spinning back fist

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:29 am

Young_Towzer wrote:I uised to come forward a lot but with lots of head movement, i think its just as good as landing a punch when you see a fighter roll or bob and weave out the way of a shot. Preffered fighters who came at me when boxing as an amateur, the amateur game is poor imo, ie the points scoring, i boxed in Hull a few years ago and landed plenty of body shots but hardly any were scored, i think the amateur game should take one thing from the pro game certainly, the way rounds are scored, i outworked a more skillful lad a few years ago as well and lost because he basically sat off and pawed shots, the fight went to count back and he won, much to the disgust of my trainer, i have spoke to plenty of am trainers and they all want pro scoring. My little brother got robbed a couple of months back as well and it's disheartening.

On an international level the scoring has improved In the last 25 years. Probably the biggest travesty I've seen in the ring was Roy Jones Jr's Olympic final and that was scored by rounds, so not I would not want to see a return to that. Body shots seem to be a bit of a scoring issue though. At the last Olympics, body shots seemed to be almost pointless as good shots didn't score points as regularly as head shots. Yet at the most recent commonwealth games, body shots did score with more frequency so its a bit of a grey area. There is always going to be a bit of controversy, but this happens in most sports, but I agree it can be disheartening.

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:54 am

i suppose one or two dodgy decesion wont affect your career in the long run if your good enough at an amatuer level

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:36 am

When I was a youngun I fought unorthadox with a Birdseye potatoe waffle punch for my special move.


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Post by Young_Towzer Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:59 am

@Kev
how many amateur fights did you have kev?, my mate was glass chinned, i shouldn't laugh but he was in the novices before in control boxing the smaller lad's head off and a straight right hand had him all over the shop, before the referee stepped in, he got stopped 4 times on the spin once and i think that hinted on to him.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:10 am

Young_Towzer wrote:@Kev
how many amateur fights did you have kev?, my mate was glass chinned, i shouldn't laugh but he was in the novices before in control boxing the smaller lad's head off and a straight right hand had him all over the shop, before the referee stepped in, he got stopped 4 times on the spin once and i think that hinted on to him.

I had 22 and won 8, lost 14. I got sparked out twice but was stopped a further 6 times. Absolutely loved it probably why I'm so thick. I got sparked out twice and lost my first 6 fights then I changed to fighting southpaw which suited me better I was 8-8 after the switch. I seemed to be a bit better defensively from the lefty stance. Short arms were a killer for me I had a poor jab because of them and my style really needed a jab.

Keep thinking of giving it another go.
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Post by Young_Towzer Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:00 am

prettyboykev wrote:
Young_Towzer wrote:@Kev
how many amateur fights did you have kev?, my mate was glass chinned, i shouldn't laugh but he was in the novices before in control boxing the smaller lad's head off and a straight right hand had him all over the shop, before the referee stepped in, he got stopped 4 times on the spin once and i think that hinted on to him.

I had 22 and won 8, lost 14. I got sparked out twice but was stopped a further 6 times. Absolutely loved it probably why I'm so thick. I got sparked out twice and lost my first 6 fights then I changed to fighting southpaw which suited me better I was 8-8 after the switch. I seemed to be a bit better defensively from the lefty stance. Short arms were a killer for me I had a poor jab because of them and my style really needed a jab.

Keep thinking of giving it another go.

It's a really hard but enjoyable game, i had around 15 bouts, but hated the weight making, that was why i packed it up, i was never nothing special but i am going back to the gym in august to give it another crack, you should do kev if you want to do it again, better than thinking when your older i wish i had of gone back.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:21 am

Young_Towzer wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
Young_Towzer wrote:@Kev
how many amateur fights did you have kev?, my mate was glass chinned, i shouldn't laugh but he was in the novices before in control boxing the smaller lad's head off and a straight right hand had him all over the shop, before the referee stepped in, he got stopped 4 times on the spin once and i think that hinted on to him.

I had 22 and won 8, lost 14. I got sparked out twice but was stopped a further 6 times. Absolutely loved it probably why I'm so thick. I got sparked out twice and lost my first 6 fights then I changed to fighting southpaw which suited me better I was 8-8 after the switch. I seemed to be a bit better defensively from the lefty stance. Short arms were a killer for me I had a poor jab because of them and my style really needed a jab.

Keep thinking of giving it another go.

It's a really hard but enjoyable game, i had around 15 bouts, but hated the weight making, that was why i packed it up, i was never nothing special but i am going back to the gym in august to give it another crack, you should do kev if you want to do it again, better than thinking when your older i wish i had of gone back.

Keep thinking about it but I do a bit of light training with my boy. He's only 6 but he loves boxing and enjoys training with his old man. He can't go to a gym yet so we do it from home. Not sure I could handle him seeing me being sparked out.
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Post by milkyboy Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:31 am

" Not sure I could handle him seeing me being sparked out."

by the sounds of things kev, with your chin, you better quit sparring with him then! Laugh

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:33 am

milkyboy wrote:" Not sure I could handle him seeing me being sparked out."

by the sounds of things kev, with your chin, you better quit sparring with him then! Laugh

Not been sparring just teaching him the basics. I have a nephew who is about his age mind you......
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