England vs India 1st test debate

by Liam_Main Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:41 pm

First topic message reminder :

England side:

1) Andrew Strauss (C)
2) Alistair Cook
3) Jonathan Trott
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Ian Bell
6) Eoin Morgan
7) Matt Prior (WK)
8) Stuart Broad
9) Graeme Swann
10) Chris Tremlett
11) James Anderson

India side.

1) Abhinav Makund
2) Gautam Gambhir
3) Rahul Dravid (WK)
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) VVS Laxman
6) Suresh Raina
7) MS Dhoni (C)
8) Harbhajan Singh
9) Zaheer Khan
10) Praveen Kumar
11) Ishant Sharma

Should be a terrific match and series!

My Prediction: England to win

Series Prediction: 1-1

C'mon England!

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:47 pm

eirebilly wrote:LeBron, i am supporting cricket.

Don't see any favour towards the visitors though

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:50 pm

Easy answer.

You English claim to be the God's gift at all sport, yet you aren't. Fact.

English media bums the national teams, and every Tom, Dick and Harry believes them.

LeBron's Homie: I think you'll find the people posting here have made no such claims. There undoubtedly ARE such idiots, just as there are idiots in all countries. But what has anyone posting here done to deserve your anger?

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:53 pm

LeBron's Homie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:LeBron, i am supporting cricket.
Don't see any favour towards the visitors though

Check my posting history out and please find where i have been against India? I would like to see England win but believe that India will because they are the better side.

You are just pure anti England....

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:05 pm

So, the covers are off and we may get some play again today...

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:08 pm

Tough half hour for England.

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:12 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:i dont watch cartoons im not 4, and also u were 17 once so cant be pathetic !

ignorant idiot

cf i watch South Park, Simpsons, American Dad, Family Guy, Futurama etc i believe they are animated cartoons Whistle

But guys seriously lets just get this back on topic and stop acting like little girls, if someone makes a comment you don't agree with please respond with a good well thought out response, rather than just lowering the tone with a stupid comment just designed to get a bad response.

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:12 pm

Why wait so long for play to commence if the pitch has been deemed fit to play on??

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:15 pm

How's it looking at Lords? It's stopped drizzling here.

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:20 pm

from the picture i saw when they were talking it was a little brighter behind the media centre, still cloudy though i think.

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:22 pm

Its ok to play so why are we still waiting for the players to imerge?

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:23 pm

groundsmen still working in the middle? i dunno maybe that was the estimate for when they could get it ready and did it quicker, cant then tell the batters, oh yeah your not batting in 15 mins your batting in 5

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:24 pm

I really don't know why it's half an hour. Fifteen minutes, yes, but does it really take half an hour to prepare? (I suppose it might)

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:25 pm

outfield is apparantly wet so trying to go round bad parts with super sopper?

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:26 pm

I'm sure you don't need me to remind you that this is for debate, not hostilities, name calling or slanging matches of any form.

Let's carry on the same vein that has been achieved for most of the day and more importantly enjoy what is going to be a fascinating series.

I hope this is the last time I have to address any disharmony on this thread.

Cheers,

Sainty.

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:26 pm

I understand that hodge but they announce a pitch inspection 20minutes before doing it. Thats plenty of time for the players to get read so if they then give the ok, they should be down straight away to minimilise the loss of play.

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:26 pm

That's got to be it. Oh well.

Can't say I'm sorry from England's point of view.

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:27 pm

Day 1 finished

by trebellbobaggins Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:27 pm

such a shame for the weather to end play so early.

I think Eng would be happy to be only two down after getting put in here. Lords is always at it's worst early up in those conditions. Surviving was key.

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:34 pm

Forecast tomorrow morning seems to be sunny intervals, light cloud and slowly rising pressure.

(Chuckle. Same for the weather Whistle

)

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:40 pm

Oh well, that is defo that then. Hopefully it will be better tomorrow.

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:40 pm

Cowshot wrote:Forecast tomorrow morning seems to be sunny intervals, light cloud and slowly rising pressure.

(Chuckle. Same for the weather )

From a moderating point of view, I bloody hope not!

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:42 pm

you wanted to be a mod Sainty Wink

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:43 pm

I did, and it's very enjoyable....when everything's harmonious!

by Cowshot Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:48 pm

Sainty: Chuckle. Goes with the territory, I suppose. But I hope you won't be too hard on cricketfan90. He's only a lad.

The England of ten years ago might have weathered two sessions like today's.

But they'd promptly have lost four wickets tomorrow morning. Will this England?

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:51 pm

all in a days work.... laughing

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:54 pm

looks like india's attack are toothless without zaheer

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:56 pm

well to be seen at any rate cf, will definitly be a tough test for them, however if swing is as condusive as it was today Kumar could still be a handfull, they will probably try and operate with a seamer at one end and Harbajan at the other.

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:57 pm

yh i suppose, i also apolgise for any comments that brought the tone of the thread down....

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:59 pm

There is still alot of cricket left to play i feel. This test is still winnable for both sides.
Massive effort from England today to be only 2 wickets down and again Trott is looking every bit a proper test batsman.

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:02 pm

i think it might be the wrong decision, not to play bresnan , with condtions the way they are...

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:02 pm

Trott again showing why he is one of the best today, a let of with the drop despite being a tough chance, but he capitalised well which is what england needed

by eirebilly Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:04 pm

Trott would walk into any team in the world right now, including Indias great batting team.

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:06 pm

if only trott started when he was younger, playing for england..

by msp83 Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:25 pm

Yet again, the atrocious weather won the day!.
England's day otherwise, would have been India's had they held their catches. Dravid, one of the best slip fieldrs ever, has been missing a few in the last few years, and may its time India start to think about it a bit.
The most important concern for India though is the fitness of Zaheer Khan. He was absolutely brilliant throughout the day, such a shame he had to go off the field.
Cook had to have a low score at some point, and he got a good one from Zak. Strauss undid all the hardwork through a very silly shot, although Zaheer maintained serious pressure resulting in a terrible shot selection on the part of the England captain.
Trott, regardless of the 2 chances, batted pretty well, and looked more confident than anyone else.
Pietersen looked not so sure, but he's still out there, he still remains the big one India would look to get at the earliest.
If Zaheer is not able to bowl any longer, Harbhajan has to step up, and so is the case with ishant. Will Sachin have a bit of a bowl to use the swing available?

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:30 pm

i think we should have played bresnan, looking at the conditions

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:36 pm

i believe you mentioned that about 10 posts ago Whistle

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:37 pm

yh i no lol

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:38 pm

eirebilly wrote:Trott would walk into any team in the world right now, including Indias great batting team.

Where exactly would be bat?

1-7 are blocked by excellent batsmen.

Maybe India's waterboy, buy Yuvraj would fight for that honour.

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:41 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:looks like india's attack are toothless without zaheer

Ishant and PK are playing their 1st Test in England, so they'll be slightly nervous.

PK bowled well and on anther day could've quite easily had 2-3 wickets.

Ishant was also poor in the 1st innings in Jamaica, but once he found his form, he was excellent. Same will happen here.

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:44 pm

LeBron's Homie wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:looks like india's attack are toothless without zaheer
Ishant and PK are playing their 1st Test in England, so they'll be slightly nervous.

PK bowled well and on anther day could've quite easily had 2-3 wickets.

Ishant was also poor in the 1st innings in Jamaica, but once he found his form, he was excellent. Same will happen here.

think that will depend if England allow him to settle, new day can easily mean new conditions, in which England may take the attack to Ishant, you can't know how he will react if this is the case. Of course England may just try and go the way they did today in which case he may find his rhythm so will have to wait and see.

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:44 pm

LeBron's Homie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Trott would walk into any team in the world right now, including Indias great batting team.
Where exactly would be bat?

1-7 are blocked by excellent batsmen.

Maybe India's waterboy, buy Yuvraj would fight for that honour.

so your still gona persist with talking rubbish......

he would get in ahead of raina

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:47 pm

hodge wrote:
LeBron's Homie wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:looks like india's attack are toothless without zaheer
Ishant and PK are playing their 1st Test in England, so they'll be slightly nervous.

PK bowled well and on anther day could've quite easily had 2-3 wickets.

Ishant was also poor in the 1st innings in Jamaica, but once he found his form, he was excellent. Same will happen here.

think that will depend if England allow him to settle, new day can easily mean new conditions, in which England may take the attack to Ishant, you can't know how he will react if this is the case. Of course England may just try and go the way they did today in which case he may find his rhythm so will have to wait and see.

He was finding rhythm just as the rain came, the more he bowls the better he gets.

If its same conditions, then I can't see England slogging him around

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:52 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:
LeBron's Homie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Trott would walk into any team in the world right now, including Indias great batting team.
Where exactly would be bat?

1-7 are blocked by excellent batsmen.

Maybe India's waterboy, buy Yuvraj would fight for that honour.

so your still gona persist with talking rubbish......

he would get in ahead of raina

Raina is a flair player, so no Trott would've get it in place of him.

Trott would compete with Dravid and VVS - he's not in their class

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:52 pm

we wont slog him around, but he can be very incosistnet and if khan's injury proves to be bad, then a lot of pressure is then on kumar

by LeBron's Homie Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:54 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:we wont slog him around, but he can be very incosistnet and if khan's injury proves to be bad, then a lot of pressure is then on kumar

Kumar loves bowling long spells so he will be fine.

Zaheer is out of the tour

by hodge Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:00 pm

LeBron's Homie wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:we wont slog him around, but he can be very incosistnet and if khan's injury proves to be bad, then a lot of pressure is then on kumar
Kumar loves bowling long spells so he will be fine.

Zaheer is out of the tour

ok say hyperthetically Kumar starts leaking a few runs tomorrow morning (suppose to be more sunny, so conditions will be at least a bit different) will India want to keep him on? more than likely not, so more pressue would be on Ishant and he could. there is a chance that he could become inconsistent.

3 main bowlers will strain india, especially in the 2nd innings.

by Duty281 Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:01 pm

LeBron's Homie wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:we wont slog him around, but he can be very incosistnet and if khan's injury proves to be bad, then a lot of pressure is then on kumar
Kumar loves bowling long spells so he will be fine.

Zaheer is out of the tour

Not yet he isn't.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2011/content/current/story/524212.html

Of course if England do beat India the WUMs will be pointing to this. Boost for England though Smile

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:01 pm

i wonder if the debate over india's best friend Wink

UDRS will come into play tomorrow

by Duty281 Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:04 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:i wonder if the debate over india's best friend UDRS will come into play tomorrow

Although I'm being horrible, I would love Sachin to be out for 99 in this test to a shocker of a LBW decision. Very Happy

by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:05 pm

haha lol i think botham said that as well :P

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